The ranking system in this game is just laughable. Makes it impossible to rank up without a team. Onyx with platinum against gold 2 and unranked or diamond with 3 golds against 3 Onyx and unranked. I say system but it’s not even that just more unfinished game that thrown together in a hurry on release, embarrassing.
343’s logic “if you win, you are a good player” needs to go away. Or they might be just lazy to implement system that determines individual skill level.
You can track csr rewards per match at halo5arena.com, and what you’ll notice is when you’re underranked in those matches the onyxs wont lose much (or ANY) csr and stand to gain a -Yoinking!- lot, whereas the onyx will hardly gain any and stand to lose a bunch.
So it doesn’t really hurt your ranking and expedites the MM process for higher level players.
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> 343’s logic “if you win, you are a good player” needs to go away. Or they might be just lazy to implement system that determines individual skill level.
Or they looked at Reach and determined that individual skill level isn’t the way to go.
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> 343’s logic “if you win, you are a good player” needs to go away. Or they might be just lazy to implement system that determines individual skill level.
If you win more often than lose, then statistically you are better than the players you play with. This is a completely valid way of determining the skill of a player. It’s easy for you to talk about implementing a system “that determines individual skill level”, but it’s all pointless if you can’t describe how such a system would work, and give a good reason why it would be better than a completely win-based system.
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> > 343’s logic “if you win, you are a good player” needs to go away. Or they might be just lazy to implement system that determines individual skill level.
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The system seems to take into account kda and damage, as well team placing. But it only factors how much you go up/down. You only go up for winning and down for losing.
Honestly its a good system, they just aren’t very transparent about it and people feel indigent when they aren’t placing well.
It does no favours for the game. If someone just buys it, and comes into arena and gets matched with 2 onyx and golds against himself and 3 platinums and gets destroyed game after game.
His just gonna shelf it and move on. It’s just dumb not to mention the fact the weapons are more balanced I can’t carry a whole team of randoms against a full team of average players. Like in previous halo titles. Not to mention the quitting making 3 vs 4 just borderline impossible in this title no matter how good you are
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> It does no favours for the game. If someone just buys it, and comes into arena and gets matched with 2 onyx and golds against himself and 3 platinums and gets destroyed game after game.
> His just gonna shelf it and move on. It’s just dumb not to mention the fact the weapons are more balanced I can’t carry a whole team of randoms against a full team of average players. Like in previous halo titles.
That’s kind of the point of a team oriented game. It’s not supposed to be where one guy carries you to victory consistently. Onto the ranking system, I halfway agree it’s not the best but it most definately is the best thing since h3s setup. It gives me that incentive to want to play arena more than warzone and I’m constantly playing with my onyx/champion buddies to try and get better. It shouldn’t be performance based either as what’s the point of playing great yourself if you can’t win games anyways? That’s one part the ranking system gets right at least is making it based off W/L rather than just performance.
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> It does no favours for the game. If someone just buys it, and comes into arena and gets matched with 2 onyx and golds against himself and 3 platinums and gets destroyed game after game.
> His just gonna shelf it and move on. It’s just dumb not to mention the fact the weapons are more balanced I can’t carry a whole team of randoms against a full team of average players. Like in previous halo titles. Not to mention the quitting making 3 vs 4 just borderline impossible in this title no matter how good you are
Unranked newborns won’t get matched with onyx level players, I can tell you that for sure. You’ll see plats play onyx here and there but it’s not consistent enough to be a major issue yet.
I’ve seen people get an increase in rank from losing capture the flag even if they had a positive kd maybe they lost for that reason.
Plus ive seen some unfair teams higher ranks up against weaker ranks and it’s not really fair for low ranks to be deranked by too high of ranks.
1-50 was a much better system than what’s in place now.
When is the season going to change?? Already the 3rd and we still on June…
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> 343’s logic “if you win, you are a good player” needs to go away. Or they might be just lazy to implement system that determines individual skill level.
It’s always been that way. And that’s how it should be - if you win, your team is good. This is because you’re playing team slayer. Honestly I don’t even know why I’m explaining it, it’s rudimentary.
If you want to test your individual skill, play FFA.
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> When is the season going to change?? Already the 3rd and we still on June…
Someone in another thread said they’re experimenting with extended seasons. So don’t hold your breath.
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But mine reset and is now on July
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Interesting. Most people have not reset yet.
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Agreed! Reaches system was terrible!! It was so bad, Bungie even scraped it later on lol
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> 1-50 was a much better system than what’s in place now.
There are a lot of things about the 1-50 system I like and miss.
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> The ranking system in this game is just laughable. Makes it impossible to rank up without a team. Onyx with platinum against gold 2 and unranked or diamond with 3 golds against 3 Onyx and unranked. I say system but it’s not even that just more unfinished game that thrown together in a hurry on release, embarrassing.
I’ve responded to more topics about there ranking system then I can count. I’ll 100% admit that 343I system isn’t great, but it’s a start. I really think it would be a lot better if they just got ride of this whole “placement matches” and “rank re set” bull crap! Just have everyone start on the bottom and work there way up. Just like in sports.
For example, in Halo 3 i’m playing 4-4. Two of us are similar skill and the other two aren’t great. The two skilled players will only be able to carry the team so far, then the will start losing. Since we’re all similar rank we will keep playing people around that rank and in doing so the other two lesser skilled players will eventually get better and we move forward as a team.
In Halo 5 the problem is say I’m ranked Onyx after my placement matches and my buddies are Silver 2, Gold 4 and Diamond 3 (Doesn’t matter if we played together or not) When the 4 of us play together now we will get SUCH a wide array of players. My friends who are ranked a lot lower will get wreaked by the higher ranking players on the other teams. I’ve seen this time and time again. But if my Silver and Gold friends were to play with out there Onyx and Diamond friends, they would be paired up with much better players of there skill level.
Hence Halo 3 having ranked and social playlists of say slayer worked so well. Play ranked when you have players, play social when you don’t have enough or if just don’t care.
I could say a lot more about the Halo 5 ranking system lol It’s not bad, but it has major flaws. I’ll go into more if anyone wants.