I’m sorry 343 but this radar just ain’t gunna cut this time around go back to classic radar it will make or break you figure it out….
So you want a return to classic halo…sweet. they can remove sprint and slide and clamber and we can go back to an actual classic halo
I think the radar used in the technical preview can be good for competitive.
Otherwise I agree, classic radar makes the game flow much better for social games.
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> So you want a return to classic halo…sweet. they can remove sprint and slide and clamber and we can go back to an actual classic halo
Nope those mechanics are fine they are balanced this time around. The radar is not fine it’s not balanced what do you not understand ?
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> I think the radar used in the technical preview can be good for competitive.
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> Otherwise I agree, classic radar makes the game flow much better for social games.
It’s fine for competitive if they implement party restrictions if not then I can only see it being in hcs, mlg type playlists…. and for social that’s no question the fact that 343 can’t see this is beyond me…… then again it was a technical test so idk. I hope they say something about it very soon though because it’s the biggest controversy right now with the game and they are silent…
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> I think the radar used in the technical preview can be good for competitive.
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> Otherwise I agree, classic radar makes the game flow much better for social games.
Personally I like the newer style radar, movement feels less punishing. It’s annoying to have your flank attempt shot down because everyone so dependent on the radar.
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> So you want a return to classic halo…sweet. they can remove sprint and slide and clamber and we can go back to an actual classic halo
Sounds like a great idea
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> > I think the radar used in the technical preview can be good for competitive.
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> > Otherwise I agree, classic radar makes the game flow much better for social games.
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> Personally I like the newer style radar, movement feels less punishing. It’s annoying to have your flank attempt shot down because everyone so dependent on the radar.
That’s what crouching is for are you serious right now ?
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> > So you want a return to classic halo…sweet. they can remove sprint and slide and clamber and we can go back to an actual classic halo
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> Nope those mechanics are fine they are balanced this time around. The radar is not fine it’s not balanced what do you not understand ?
Well actually the radar is perfectly balanced with the new sprint mechanic they actually work insinctly and not seperately
What I don’t understand is how you don’t understand how its insane for you to ask for a classical radar because you don’t like it while telling all the players who have hated sprint in halo for the last ten years to just deal with it
There’s a word for that…
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> > I think the radar used in the technical preview can be good for competitive.
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> > Otherwise I agree, classic radar makes the game flow much better for social games.
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> Personally I like the newer style radar, movement feels less punishing. It’s annoying to have your flank attempt shot down because everyone so dependent on the radar.
But that’s always been a factor in Halo. No matter what, every player has a chance to defend themselves if they are aware of their surroundings and HUD info.
Plus, if you’re playing social with a team that has no positional awareness because they’re just chilling or getting used to the game or literally anything, then it becomes really difficult to play because you’ll constantly get shot in the back.
Classic radar helps make the game less sweat, and that’s okay as long as there is a competitive playlist as well.
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> So you want a return to classic halo…sweet. they can remove sprint and slide and clamber and we can go back to an actual classic halo
I think he and I want 343 to stop turning back on things implemeted in last game, so sprint, clamber, advanced mobilitie and radar stay as they were.
The radar is the most iconic tool from Halo, present since the beginning, so it’s really weird to have it less efficient
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> > Personally I like the newer style radar, movement feels less punishing. It’s annoying to have your flank attempt shot down because everyone so dependent on the radar.
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> That’s what crouching is for are you serious right now ?
Ah yes crouching across the map at snails pace which further contributes to the lack of movement. Crouching can have its uses, but on maps like H3 Construct it’s completely useless. The team that controls top will dominate the lower team because they can use the radar to control the whole map. Any time you try to ascend even if you are crouching you will blip on the radar for a brief moment.
Crouching isn’t a good solution to encourage players to approach more often. It’s only for getting cheap assassinations or camping.
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> So you want a return to classic halo…sweet. they can remove sprint and slide and clamber and we can go back to an actual classic halo
He never said he wanted classic Halo, he said he wanted the classic radar.
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> What I don’t understand is how you don’t understand how its insane for you to ask for a classical radar because you don’t like it while telling all the players who have hated sprint in halo for the last ten years to just deal with it
Did he tell you the last 10 years just to deal with it? It’s not insane in any way to ask for the classic radar back. Just as it’s not insane to ask for the removal of sprint.
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> Did he tell you the last 10 years just to deal with it? It’s not insane in any way to ask for the classic radar back. Just as it’s not insane to ask for the removal of sprint.
I guess both parties get to be disapointed then eh
Sprint isn’t going anywhere and its far too late in development to rework the radar system
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> > So you want a return to classic halo…sweet. they can remove sprint and slide and clamber and we can go back to an actual classic halo
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> I think he and I want 343 to stop turning back on things implemeted in last game, so sprint, clamber, advanced mobilitie and radar stay as they were.
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> The radar is the most iconic tool from Halo, present since the beginning, so it’s really weird to have it less efficient
No sprint was in halo from the beginning and that changed…
Now the radar has changed to compliment newer updates game play
Halo has to evolve, and the radar is part of the evolution we see now
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> I guess both parties get to be disapointed then eh
> Sprint isn’t going anywhere and its far too late in development to rework the radar system
Yeah I suppose everyone is disappointed with some things. I also think people just generally have different views on what makes Halo feel like Halo.
It’s not far too late at all though
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> > > So you want a return to classic halo…sweet. they can remove sprint and slide and clamber and we can go back to an actual classic halo
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> > Nope those mechanics are fine they are balanced this time around. The radar is not fine it’s not balanced what do you not understand ?
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> Well actually the radar is perfectly balanced with the new sprint mechanic they actually work insinctly and not seperately
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> What I don’t understand is how you don’t understand how its insane for you to ask for a classical radar because you don’t like it while telling all the players who have hated sprint in halo for the last ten years to just deal with it
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> There’s a word for that…
The radar is not perfectly balanced, it’s terrible. Sprint is fine, albeit a bit slow currently, and fits fine in the sandbox in Infinite. The radar is not fine and no longer fits into the sandbox if it only makes people appear while using abilities.
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> > > > So you want a return to classic halo…sweet. they can remove sprint and slide and clamber and we can go back to an actual classic halo
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> > > Nope those mechanics are fine they are balanced this time around. The radar is not fine it’s not balanced what do you not understand ?
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> > Well actually the radar is perfectly balanced with the new sprint mechanic they actually work insinctly and not seperately
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> > What I don’t understand is how you don’t understand how its insane for you to ask for a classical radar because you don’t like it while telling all the players who have hated sprint in halo for the last ten years to just deal with it
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> The radar is not perfectly balanced, it’s terrible. Sprint is fine, albeit a bit slow currently, and fits fine in the sandbox in Infinite. The radar is not fine and no longer fits into the sandbox if it only makes people appear while using abilities.
The radar is balanced with the new reduced AMM mechanics
You are looking at one particular peice of a thing instead of the thing as a whole
If sprint needs to stay in halo (sprint isin’t fine by the way, and I’m still thinnking of that word) then it needs to be offset…this is the offset
Sprint isn’t also a bit slow currently it is 9% faster than BMS which gives the players a speed boost and alows you to sprint which is the point of the mechanic
this is an evolution of halo, halo needs to evolve in order to stay relevant and this is what its done.
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> > Sprint isn’t going anywhere and its far too late in development to rework the radar system
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> Yeah I suppose everyone is disappointed with some things. I also think people just generally have different views on what makes Halo feel like Halo.
> It’s not far too late at all though
Of course its too late
Game is out in less than three months and the entire game has been designed with this new motion tracker in mind
the movement mechanics the map design everything is intertwined
Its far too late to change it now, and further, it doens’t need to be changed
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> I’m sorry 343 but this radar just ain’t gunna cut this time around go back to classic radar it will make or break you figure it out….
the radar is fine. if you can’t appreciate the new game mechanics, go play classic Halo on MCC