> The humans wanting revenge on the forerunners was just that, the humans. Medicant bias new they would work with him so he also offered a chance for revenge, <mark>the primordial wasn’t involved with that.</mark> It was stated in the book that the human-forerunner war devastated the primordials plans so i doubt he would try having the humans lose again.
Of course he was, Mendicant Bias had been working for the Primordial this whole time. Forthencho didn’t go to them and say he wished to continue the fight. Mendicant Bias went to him and told him he could give them power only if they joined him.
Primodrium Page 303
“And now we are brought here, for this moment, by a machine that has long since turned against Forerunner. It wishes us to defeat them - to cause them misery and dismay. And so we shall!”
It was Mendicant Bias who went to Forthencho and told him what he wanted from him and Mendicant Bias is working directly with the Primordial Gravemind.
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“There is little time and so extreme measures have been authorized.”
They’re reaching out in desperation. Chakas then mentions in his thoughts that Mendicant Bias is indeed not in charge of any of this.
Primordium Page 306/7
“My first question was, why? What value, these old ghosts, to Forerunner machines? What value could I have? Worse, I knew that the green-eyed master of the wheel was not actually in command - had not been in charge of the wheel for many decades. I knew, but could not act on my knowledge.”
Mendicant Bias is doing this under the orders of the Primordial Gravemind.
Primordium Page 308/9
“Humans? The last dregs of us that remain after so many Forerunner victories? We became animals. We were devolved - and only the Librarian thought enough of us to raise us back up again!”
“It doesn’t care!” the Lord of Admirals said. “The machine will do everything it can to destroy Forerunners. It knows that I have fought Forerunner before.”
“And lost.”
“But also learned! I have spent my time within you going over and over old battles, studying all our past failures and now, I have full access to their new strategies! This wheel is but one of the weapons at our disposal - if we join.”
If we join.
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“Out there, awaiting our commands, in many orbits around thousands of other worlds, in other star systems, are reserves of tens of thousands of ships of war - and more Halos. We will be irresistible!”
He lies. They have no control over the other Halos and the majority of those fleets of ships are Flood infested.
Primordium Page 309/10
“I seemed to see through this sham to the Captive, the Primordial itself… I was fading. illusion passed into illusion - and I preferred my own. Mongoose, the trickster, I remembered, had been responsible for creating humanity. It was Mongoose who had convinced Mud to mate with Sun and breed worms, and then teased and angered the worms until they grew legs to chase him over the grasslands. Worms became men. The wheel’s green-eyed master was a bit of a trickster, like Mongoose, playing jokes upon the humorless gods known as Tree and River, rock and Cloud.”
Chakas wasn’t a fool. He knew it was all a trick and I have to believe him. It was just their attempt at saving themselves.
> He said “Last of this kind” and also says “Precursors-flood, there is no difference” That makes it more like a race that gave itself to the flood them him actually being “the flood”. Not to mention after the conversation is over Forthencho says “We have met our creators” right after we are told the precursors created both races.
But it said that he had been the last of that particular kind which would seem to imply another kind exists. He even says that once he is dead another shall take his place. It can’t be another like him because he is the last so he had to have been referring to something new, something not yet encountered.