Well no so much the game as it is with people saying stuff like “LIKE OMG HALO CEA IS NOT USING ORIGINAL MP ENGINE AND USING REACH’S MP ENGINE LIKE EWW IM NOT BUYING THIS GAME NOW.” First things first im sorry about using all cap in that. And second thing is that im starting to get really pissed off about these people who are saying it. The people at 343 Industries are trying there hardiest to satisfies us fans. AND THEY JUST WALK ALL OVER 343I BECAUSE OF MP. That’s -Yoink- and yet again im sorry about the caps and for the inappropriate language. 343 is remaking this game for the fans and to show what they can due as a studio and personally i would still buy this game even if there was no coop or multilayer.
Everybody’s a critic. Nothing we can do about that.
> Everybody’s a critic. Nothing we can do about that.
Thats true but still i just need a place to shout this out.
i agree full heartedly.
343 didnt want to split the player base.
Leave them fools. They make themselves look silly and are the scum. They simply can’t appreciate anything in life.
You are really, really annoying. Spell your -Yoink- words correctly and try not to write sentences with over 3 clauses, it adds gravity to your posts if you do.
But I do agree with you. Some forum members just don’t get that this game was made under heavy time constraints and they’ve done a damn good job.
> You are really, really annoying. Spell your Yoink! words correctly and try not to write sentences with over 3 clauses, it adds gravity to your posts if you do.
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> But I do agree with you. Some forum members just don’t get that this game was made under heavy time constraints and they’ve done a damn good job.
lol i did not type Yoink its the forum software censoring me.
Haters gonna hate. people have complained on the forums before every new Halo game.
A few things here:
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There is no excuse for not including the multiplayer on lan.
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Splitting up the population isn’t a big deal. The community is still going to be fragmented, just through playlists rather than separate games.
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More people have asked for CE multiplayer, than an upscaled version of the campaign.
One thing what I learned about the Halo community is the are very picky, they’ll nag at the slightest detail.
> A few things here:
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> 1. There is no excuse for not including the multiplayer on lan.
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> 2. Splitting up the population isn’t a big deal. The community is still going to be fragmented, just through playlists rather than separate games.
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> 3. More people have asked for CE multiplayer, than an upscaled version of the campaign.
i rather have reach mp engine for live and halo ce mp engine for lan
> A few things here:
> 1. There is no excuse for not including the multiplayer on lan.
> 2. Splitting up the population isn’t a big deal. The community is still going to be fragmented, just through playlists rather than separate games.
> 3. More people have asked for CE multiplayer, than an upscaled version of the campaign.
- How often do you play on LAN connections anymore? Hell, I live in an apartment complex and I’m pretty sure we don’t even have a LAN…
- It’s more an issue of having multiple multiplayers in a very short span of time. Halo 3 is practically dead (finding a game is a Herculean feat of patience,) and Halo Reach has only been out for a year. So we have a year of Reach, then a year of Reach/Halo: CEA, then Halo 4. Not good planning, to be honest.
- From how it’s been sounding, they were asking for CE online multiplayer several years ago. A great deal of fans have been wanting a remake of the campaign.
Plus, look at this from a technological perspective. It’s likely that Halo: CE won’t work on the next Xbox. Halo: CEA probably will, as it’s a 360 game. The lack of multiplayer is because we have Reach during this period, and Halo 4 coming next year.
> 1. How often do you play on LAN connections anymore? Hell, I live in an apartment complex and I’m pretty sure we don’t even have a LAN…
When you say “LAN” in the context of console gaming, it usually means “an ethernet hub and a bunch of spare cables.” It’s effectively synonymous with “system link.”
Okay then, how often do you play System Link?
> Okay then, how often do you play System Link?
Depends on the person. A few people still bring LAN parties together, but amongst most people it’s desperately difficult these days to get people to momentarily give up the superior accessibility of online MP for the superior quality of local*.
Realistically, relatively few people would take advantage of the original LAN MP on the CEA disc. The reason it bothers people, though, is that it’s often perceived that it wouldn’t have cost 343i anything to just throw that preexisting system into the package (though you could possibly cite disc space issues as a legitimate excuse for 343i not doing so).
*Incidentally, this is by far the largest reason that so many people want online CE MP for CEA; to have Halo 1’s multiplayer be both accessible once again, and with the quality of being on its native platform. Right now, the options are:
-Take the ridiculous effort to get a group of people, consoles, and TV’s together,
-Tunnel through XBC and put up with the issues on LAN netcode over high-latency networks, or
-Play a sketchy PC console port which also has horrible netcode.
> Okay then, how often do you play System Link?
Whenever possible? I can either have lag, xbox live people, and a matchmaking system that tells me what maps and gametypes I am going to play, or I can have no lag, good opponents, and we actually spend our gaming time how we want (what a concept!).
As far as not having the original CE multiplayer, this is self evidently an assinine attempt to fan the dying embers of Reach by padding it’s player count with people who have been waiting a decade for CE multiplayer over live.
Well, it appears that the forums have yet again eaten my post. I must just be that awesome.
For 343i to include Halo: CE’s original multiplayer would have been somewhat redundant, as they’re adding options to matchmaking to make it as close to CE’s multiplayer as possible. They will likely release a preset game option to make this easier. So if you want a LAN party, just use the Halo: CE maps and the Halo: CE preset.
The basics of Halo: CE’s multiplayer would very likely not work with matchmaking. It’s fun for a LAN party when everyone is competitive in a State-Fair type competitiveness, but to apply that same feeling to a random, global field is just a cry for disaster.
> For 343i to include Halo: CE’s original multiplayer would have been somewhat redundant, as they’re adding options to matchmaking to make it as close to CE’s multiplayer as possible.
With all sorts of emulateability shortcomings, like a plasma rifle that doesn’t stun and a pistol that doesn’t have even close to the right magazine size, not to mention different player control and hit detection algorithms, and aesthetic design.
That’s never going to be a convincing argument to people who like HCE’s MP.
As for whether HCE’s MP would work well online, that’s a tricky question. The people still playing HPC seem to think it’s good, and they’re using a sketchy console port with horrible netcode. It’s true that some gametypes would probably fail miserably in a matchmaking scheme; BG CTF can easily take far too long for a 15-minute MM variant to be reasonable. That said, a proponent of HCE online MP would immediately fire back by pointing out that it’s silly for public match hosting to be restricted to an MM system anyway, and that dedicated servers and/or a custom games list would be a fine addition that would solve most of the problems. Obviously there’s a lot of room for some back-and-forth to occur.
> Well no so much the game as it is with people saying stuff like “LIKE OMG HALO CEA IS NOT USING ORIGINAL MP ENGINE AND USING REACH’S MP ENGINE LIKE EWW IM NOT BUYING THIS GAME NOW.” First things first im sorry about using all cap in that. And second thing is that im starting to get really pissed off about these people who are saying it. The people at 343 Industries are trying there hardiest to satisfies us fans. AND THEY JUST WALK ALL OVER 343I BECAUSE OF MP. That’s -Yoink!- and yet again im sorry about the caps and for the inappropriate language. 343 is remaking this game for the fans and to show what they can due as a studio and personally i would still buy this game even if there was no coop or multilayer.
Uh, last time I checked I was the one buying the game. Don’t get me wrong, I appreciate and respect 343 Industries for taking up the mantle to try to stick to a more canon-focused Halo., but that doesn’t mean I’m going to blindly follow them and purchase the game no matter what. I personally don’t like how they’re using the Reach MP engine but 343 is simply remaking Halo CE and adding a Multiplayer. So, it’s expected that they’d use an existing multiplayer. In my case, the only thing preventing me from buying this game is the community, or what’s left of it. I don’t like the direction Reach is heading(It was awful to begin with) and I don’t want to play a Call of Duty rip-off. All I’m asking for is a MP that is similar to Halo 2 or Halo 3.
> Leave them fools. They make themselves look silly and are the scum. They simply can’t appreciate anything in life.