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> > Just to give people some tech back-end information.
> >
> > A game can have various FPS modes set to various components. Some games frequently give higher FPS in single player vs Multiplayer or vice-versa. What I’m trying to say is - cutting split-screen was NOT done solely because of the preservation of FPS. They could have very well have 60FPS for lone player while switching to 30 FPS for co-op play/splitscreen. They did not do so. This is ridiculous, with this new hardware - it seems that some of the features that gamers just took for granted and as of-course-this-will-be-supported are now being dropped.
> > I seriously believe that this was not a tech limitation, but that the co-op splitscreen play was dropped due to some design decision.
>
>
> Very, very true. This is pretty much the only rebuttal needed in this entire “debate” (if such an obviously one-sided dilemma can even be called a debate. Sort of like “debating” the shape of the Earth…)
Its sad, really. I mean I know I will still buy it and play it and have fun. But what happens when a friend (who I played ALL halos with [split-screen]) comes over? I will have to turn him down OR ask him to bring over 1) A TV, 2) an X1, 3) A copy of Halo 5.
Now all of you blind ‘defenders’ have to admit - bringing over all of that stuff is a bother. A MUCH bigger bother that just to bring over a controller. Now imagine if I have three of my friends come over for some Halo? Yeah, we somehow have to fit that many TVs just to play with FOUR people!
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> Just to give people some tech back-end information.
>
> A game can have various FPS modes set to various components. Some games frequently give higher FPS in single player vs Multiplayer or vice-versa. What I’m trying to say is - cutting split-screen was NOT done solely because of the preservation of FPS. They could have very well have 60FPS for lone player while switching to 30 FPS for co-op play/splitscreen. They did not do so. This is ridiculous, with this new hardware - it seems that some of the features that gamers just took for granted and as of-course-this-will-be-supported are now being dropped.
> I seriously believe that this was not a tech limitation, but that the co-op splitscreen play was dropped due to some design decision.
Not saying that this is the case BUT…IMO… Each player now needs Xbox one ($349 US), each person need Live Gold ($60 US), each person needs game ($60 US), anyone seeing a trend here since 343 is part of Microsoft studios???
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> > Just to give people some tech back-end information.
> >
> > A game can have various FPS modes set to various components. Some games frequently give higher FPS in single player vs Multiplayer or vice-versa. What I’m trying to say is - cutting split-screen was NOT done solely because of the preservation of FPS. They could have very well have 60FPS for lone player while switching to 30 FPS for co-op play/splitscreen. They did not do so. This is ridiculous, with this new hardware - it seems that some of the features that gamers just took for granted and as of-course-this-will-be-supported are now being dropped.
> > I seriously believe that this was not a tech limitation, but that the co-op splitscreen play was dropped due to some design decision.
>
>
> Not saying that this is the case BUT…IMO… Each player now needs Xbox one ($349 US), each person need Live Gold ($60 US), each person needs game ($60 US), anyone seeing a trend here since 343 is part of Microsoft studios???
Like I said, its sad.
Maybe, MAYBE there will be a campaign edition of H5 that will have splitscreen?
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> > > Just to give people some tech back-end information.
> > >
> > > A game can have various FPS modes set to various components. Some games frequently give higher FPS in single player vs Multiplayer or vice-versa. What I’m trying to say is - cutting split-screen was NOT done solely because of the preservation of FPS. They could have very well have 60FPS for lone player while switching to 30 FPS for co-op play/splitscreen. They did not do so. This is ridiculous, with this new hardware - it seems that some of the features that gamers just took for granted and as of-course-this-will-be-supported are now being dropped.
> > > I seriously believe that this was not a tech limitation, but that the co-op splitscreen play was dropped due to some design decision.
> >
> >
> > Not saying that this is the case BUT…IMO… Each player now needs Xbox one ($349 US), each person need Live Gold ($60 US), each person needs game ($60 US), anyone seeing a trend here since 343 is part of Microsoft studios???
>
>
> Like I said, its sad.
>
> Maybe, MAYBE there will be a campaign edition of H5 that will have splitscreen?
I hope so… My wife and I play the Hellicopter…(lol) out of this game… Actually tonight, we have a HALO night setup with friends… Pizzas, Beer, High fives and all… You’ll see me online, but sadly not when Halo 5 releases, unless something happens
Now that any and all performance-related arguments against splitscreen have been completely destroyed, is there any way we can bring this issue right up to 343 so that they have to react to it?
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> Now that any and all performance-related arguments against splitscreen have been completely destroyed, is there any way we can bring this issue right up to 343 so that they have to react to it?
Anyone know Phil Spencer??? That’s about the only way
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> > > > > > > > I’m so glad that my "it’s not going to happen’ stance was correct.
> > > > > > > > I’m also SOOOOO much happier that it’s going to refuse to cater to you people and ruin the 60fps, just because you want to play with a friend the cheap way.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > <3 343.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And here we go with the, “you guys are cheap because you guys won’t drop another $400 for another Xbox and $60 for another game so that you can play with the same person who is in the same room as you”.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It’s more… You’re too cheap to have an xbox one to play XBOX ONE games, and then spend 60$ on a game that you want to play. Instead, you wish to be able to play together with someone, without actually paying for it. That’s you being cheap. I’m GLAD that it’s gone. I’m soooooo happy, because of threads like this. With how a majority of you claimed you wouldn’t play unless it was there.
> > > > > > Well… I bet I still see you online. I bet you can’t follow through with your threats. Bahahaha. 
Thank you based 343.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It’s cheap from me to want to play with my brother on our console,which we bought together? I’m terrible sorry,but I guess I just don’t have the ability to understand your insane logic
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Same here
> > >
> > >
> > > It’s not worth them giving up on the FPS, to make the people who are not going to be paying them any money to play the -Yoink!- game, when the people who ARE paying for it would rather have the FPS. I am buying the game, I’d rather have my FPS be 60, then to allow you to play multiplayer and them have to change the way the aesthetics are, because you are too poor to play the game as it was intended. Go mow some lawns or something, make the money and spend it on the game. OR get a job. DO SOMETHING besides complain that you didn’t get what you wanted.
> > > Again, thank you 343 for being awesomeeeeee.
> >
> >
> > you don’t have neither brain nor friends, and both things are sooooo sad
> > if smbd wants to play split screen with his friend, it doesn’t mean that only one of them has a console, have you ever thought about it? oh, you don’t have brain, how could you think w/o brain, sorry man
>
>
> Look, this guys a troll, don’t give into him. Also, it makes us no better if we resort to name calling.
Having a differing opinion isn’t trolling. Seriously, this buzzword of ‘trolling’ is getting out of hand. I’m glad that they took out splitscreen. Insulting people isn’t really the best way to go, so I’ll be reporting that. But thanks Culaghini.
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> > > > I’m so glad that my "it’s not going to happen’ stance was correct.
> > > > I’m also SOOOOO much happier that it’s going to refuse to cater to you people and ruin the 60fps, just because you want to play with a friend the cheap way.
> > > >
> > > > <3 343.
> > >
> > >
> > > And here we go with the, “you guys are cheap because you guys won’t drop another $400 for another Xbox and $60 for another game so that you can play with the same person who is in the same room as you”.
> >
> >
> > It’s more… You’re too cheap to have an xbox one to play XBOX ONE games, and then spend 60$ on a game that you want to play. Instead, you wish to be able to play together with someone, without actually paying for it. That’s you being cheap. I’m GLAD that it’s gone. I’m soooooo happy, because of threads like this. With how a majority of you claimed you wouldn’t play unless it was there.
> > Well… I bet I still see you online. I bet you can’t follow through with your threats. Bahahaha. Thank you based 343.
>
>
> What threats have I made? I never said I would not purchase said game, never did I say things like other have about boycotting. And again, I already have an Xbox One, so why buy another, sadly, with the rate this is moving, it may be the only option.
>
> Heck, Battlefront won’t even have online split screen, only local, which means I cannot play with friends on Live if I am playing with my brother.
Before you say that I said YOU, please reread what I put in bold. And that’s where things are headed. They don’t want you to play on the same console, because it is detrimental to the way the game plays, the resources, etc.
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> > It’s not worth them giving up on the FPS, to make the people who are not going to be paying them any money to play the -Yoink!- game, when the people who ARE paying for it would rather have the FPS. I am buying the game, I’d rather have my FPS be 60, then to allow you to play multiplayer and them have to change the way the aesthetics are, because you are too poor to play the game as it was intended. Go mow some lawns or something, make the money and spend it on the game. OR get a job. DO SOMETHING besides complain that you didn’t get what you wanted.
> > Again, thank you 343 for being awesomeeeeee.
>
>
> Do you know that Splitscreen and 60 FPS aren’t mutually exclusive?
>
> Hell, Halo has done it before. Several times. So has Call of Duty, actually. The worst thing I noticed in any of them was a reduced draw distance in Reach, where you couldn’t see all the way across Hemorrhage. Split screen doesn’t affect the aesthetics in the slightest, or the FPS if they actually put some effort into it, and considering the millions they’re throwing down, it should be kinda trivial honestly.
>
> I mean, I know you’re just trolling, but this is just poorly done. Both as a argument, and as trying to be infuriatingly against a cause that doesn’t effect you.
…what? WHERE and in WHAT game did they make splitscreen and 60fps? Name ONE Halo game. ONE.
If what I’ve read on some of this thread is true, I’m happy that at least 2 player split screen is still there. Hopefully I can get my uncle to play again seeing as we haven’t played a game split screen since Halo 3.
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> If what I’ve read on some of this thread is true, I’m happy that at least 2 player split screen is still there. Hopefully I can get my uncle to play again seeing as we haven’t played a game split screen since Halo 3.
When did they say split screen? And is it only Multiplayer? Because they already said NO co-op splitscreen in Campaign…
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> > > It’s not worth them giving up on the FPS, to make the people who are not going to be paying them any money to play the -Yoink!- game, when the people who ARE paying for it would rather have the FPS. I am buying the game, I’d rather have my FPS be 60, then to allow you to play multiplayer and them have to change the way the aesthetics are, because you are too poor to play the game as it was intended. Go mow some lawns or something, make the money and spend it on the game. OR get a job. DO SOMETHING besides complain that you didn’t get what you wanted.
> > > Again, thank you 343 for being awesomeeeeee.
> >
> >
> > Do you know that Splitscreen and 60 FPS aren’t mutually exclusive?
> >
> > Hell, Halo has done it before. Several times. So has Call of Duty, actually. The worst thing I noticed in any of them was a reduced draw distance in Reach, where you couldn’t see all the way across Hemorrhage. Split screen doesn’t affect the aesthetics in the slightest, or the FPS if they actually put some effort into it, and considering the millions they’re throwing down, it should be kinda trivial honestly.
> >
> > I mean, I know you’re just trolling, but this is just poorly done. Both as a argument, and as trying to be infuriatingly against a cause that doesn’t effect you.
>
>
> …what? WHERE and in WHAT game did they make splitscreen and 60fps? Name ONE Halo game. ONE.
Both your name and your views are deplorable.
OK so I remember when I first looked at this discussion I noticed the link to the tweet that was sent by Josh Holmes that there is 2 player campaign coop Is that tweet still relevant or not
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> > > > It’s not worth them giving up on the FPS, to make the people who are not going to be paying them any money to play the -Yoink!- game, when the people who ARE paying for it would rather have the FPS. I am buying the game, I’d rather have my FPS be 60, then to allow you to play multiplayer and them have to change the way the aesthetics are, because you are too poor to play the game as it was intended. Go mow some lawns or something, make the money and spend it on the game. OR get a job. DO SOMETHING besides complain that you didn’t get what you wanted.
> > > > Again, thank you 343 for being awesomeeeeee.
> > >
> > >
> > > Do you know that Splitscreen and 60 FPS aren’t mutually exclusive?
> > >
> > > Hell, Halo has done it before. Several times. So has Call of Duty, actually. The worst thing I noticed in any of them was a reduced draw distance in Reach, where you couldn’t see all the way across Hemorrhage. Split screen doesn’t affect the aesthetics in the slightest, or the FPS if they actually put some effort into it, and considering the millions they’re throwing down, it should be kinda trivial honestly.
> > >
> > > I mean, I know you’re just trolling, but this is just poorly done. Both as a argument, and as trying to be infuriatingly against a cause that doesn’t effect you.
> >
> >
> > …what? WHERE and in WHAT game did they make splitscreen and 60fps? Name ONE Halo game. ONE.
>
>
> Both your name and your views are deplorable.
Thanks for the unnecessary and unhelpful comment, I say again, where is the splitscreen and 60fps game that this guy claims of Halo has made?
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> OK so I remember when I first looked at this discussion I noticed the link to the tweet that was sent by Josh Holmes that there is 2 player campaign coop Is that tweet still relevant or not
They said there was no 2 player splitscreen campaign co-op.
Hey, both of you, knock it off. We really don’t want this to get locke’d.
And about communicating directly to 343, the best you’ll be able to do is the #Halo5SplitScreen thing.
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> Hey, both of you, knock it off. We really don’t want this to get locke’d.
>
> And about communicating directly to 343, the best you’ll be able to do is the #Halo5SplitScreen thing.
Knock off what? I don’t mind the thread being locked, seeing as how the entire thing is null and void now, but I’m curious as to what he meant by the 60fps splitscreen Halo game. I don’t care about the Call of Duty, but I don’t think they had one either.
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> Hey, both of you, knock it off. We really don’t want this to get locke’d.
>
> And about communicating directly to 343, the best you’ll be able to do is the #Halo5SplitScreen thing.
Fine. But I encourage everybody to report the heck out of his replies so we can refine this thread.
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> > Hey, both of you, knock it off. We really don’t want this to get locke’d.
> >
> > And about communicating directly to 343, the best you’ll be able to do is the #Halo5SplitScreen thing.
>
>
> Fine. But I encourage everybody to report the heck out of his replies so we can refine this thread.
I’m keeping all of my replies on topic, as you are not, I have also reported this and your previously insulting/off topic and unconstructive comment.
I still would like to know about the 60fps splitscreen Halo game. I know he can’t mean on the computer if it’s split screen, so I’m baffled as to what he is talking about. I don’t even think Halo wars, or Spartan Assault had anything over 30fps and those things aren’t even using a majority of the resources of the Xbox 360, or Xbox one.
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> > > Hey, both of you, knock it off. We really don’t want this to get locke’d.
> > >
> > > And about communicating directly to 343, the best you’ll be able to do is the #Halo5SplitScreen thing.
> >
> >
> > Fine. But I encourage everybody to report the heck out of his replies so we can refine this thread.
>
>
> I’m keeping all of my replies on topic, as you are not, I have also reported this and your previously insulting/off topic and unconstructive comment.
> I still would like to know about the 60fps splitscreen Halo game. I know he can’t mean on the computer if it’s split screen, so I’m baffled as to what he is talking about. I don’t even think Halo wars, or Spartan Assault had anything over 30fps and those things aren’t even using a majority of the resources of the Xbox 360, or Xbox one.
How very noble of you. Keeping it on topic… there isn’t one. That guy misspoke. What he should have said is that there hasn’t been a single Halo title where split-screen support somehow trickled into solo play and compromised its performance. It’s pretty much a no brainer.