The Official Splitscreen Thread

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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> > > > > > > > 343 said the game will support 2 players split screen to allow tha game running on stady 60 fps. It is better for the game to stady run on 60 fps rather than having 4 players split screen.
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> > > > > > > What is better for you may not be for other people.
> > > > > > > Things change with time but this is a mistake.
> > > > > > > I don’t have a Xbox One yet, so can’t talk about 30fps vs 60fps but I imagine it makes a big impact in Halo gameplay.
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> > > > > > > People have less time for video games as they age, I owned Master System, Saturn, Dreamcast, Xbox and X360, I played a lot of single player, since Xbox times, my gaming time is 90% Pes/Fifa and Halo.
> > > > > > > I fell in love with Halo as many of my friends did, even if most of them never owned a Xbox.
> > > > > > > Halo split-screen and LAN are two of the best memories I have from my life, countless hours of adrenaline and trash talk.
> > > > > > > No other game gave/give me the experience I have when playing Halo.
> > > > > > > That experience improved till Halo 3, i played a lot of Halo Reach also but not as fun, Halo 4 was unplayable and the maps terrible.
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> > > > > > > I don’t play as much split-screen as much as I did but the Halo we still play is Halo 3, it’s the Halo that gives me the experience I enjoy the most.
> > > > > > > Since Halo 3 I’m waiting for an UPDATED/MODERN version of that. 343 seems to deliver that with Halo 5 but they take out the split-screen so game over to that.
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> > > > > > > Give the game another name, Halo without split screen IS NOT HALO.
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> > > > > > Yes it is.
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> > > > > Jet packs, armor abilities, loadouts, terrible splitscreen, etc…
> > > > > The same I say Halo without split-screen is not Halo, I say Halo 4 MP is not Halo.
> > > > > Halo has been selling less since Halo 3, as well as the online community.
> > > > > 343 added things to the game that were not needed and now they are taking pieces of the core experience.
> > > > > Split-Screen is one of the pillars that made Halo the brand it is now, it can’t be taken away.
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> > > > Halo 4 was the best selling Halo to date. Halo 5 is nearing the amount of preorders halo 4 had at this point in its development, and that is on a new console. I’m not sure where you got that statistic of Halo selling less since 3 but it’s false. Halo 4 mp is Halo. Just because it isn’t what you expected it to be does not make it something else entirely. You may not want to play because they are taking out a feature that only a very small amount of people still use, but that doesn’t make the game any less Halo.
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> > > Actually Halo 3 still is. Stop spreading lies. Many people became Halo fans because they could sit around one console with friends and family and experience the game in a way gamers today just do not understand.
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> > > Also Halo 4 launched to 80 million xbox owners, Halo 3 launched to about 20 million. Halo ODST and Halo Reach did not sell as well as Halo 3. Halo 4 should destroy Halo 3 in sales.
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> > > I would also like to know where you are getting your statistic for number of people who split screen from.
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> >
> > Actually Halo 4 is. Best selling, and most sold are two different things. Halo 4 sold a ton more in less time, which means that it sold better. Halo 3 has been out for how many years? Halo 4 is better selling. How many times do you see people online using splitscreen? I barely see any. None of my friends use it, none of their friends use it. Just stop.
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> If maybe you stopped making up terms and realized that you are on the wrong with that best selling BS, on top of ignoring all the real people on this thread that feel upset… Maybe someone would listen to your points (if you have ever made one instead of trolling and bashing) and would see you as a person and not as a apathetic, egoist dildochugger.

*Says I’m trolling and that I don’t bring up actual points
*Resorts to name calling.
If you’ve seen my other posts you would know I understand why people are upset. I don’t understand why they think it’s gamebreaking. I’m only apathetic towards those that don’t deserve sympathy.

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> > > Did I just see split-screen being compared to backseats of a car? That’s hilarious. I’m pretty sure buying a second console and TV for a second player is much more viable than buying a second car just for my underage children to drive. Necessities vs. niceties.
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> > > The splitscreen outrage is much ado about nothing. Splitscreen is being left in the last generation. This isn’t about lazy design, or doing something better…in a world of finite resources, where dedication to one thing requires sacrifice of another, I can live with that sacrifice. Many can as well.
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> > And many can’t. The “necessities vs. niceties” argument can be thrown out the windows, because everything in video games in “niceties”. You don’t have to play Halo to survive. I see your point, however, and have to wonder: would perspective would be different if it were a different feature 343 was dropping from Halo? A feature that you personally use and believe to be a core Halo feature? Certainly the speaking out wouldn’t seem so dumb then.
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> I have a pretty limited definition of what are and are not core Halo features. I really liked Firefight, and was bummed to see that leave. I really liked Neutral Flag gametypes, and was bummed to see that leave. But there hasn’t been anything removed before that has me up in arms about its exclusion. There’s a ton I can do without, which is why I don’t see the splitscreen outrage. I have friends that relied on splitscreen in the past, and they worked out their situation to accommodate games without splitscreen.
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> And yes, games are entertainment and they’re all niceties. Fine. I’m simply referring to the viability of alternatives when evaluating cost benefit. A backseat for a car has few viable alternatives. Splitscreen functionality isn’t very difficult to replace.

Could you please leave an example of how to fix the split screen problem that does not involve paying $400 dollars for another console.

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> > > > Did I just see split-screen being compared to backseats of a car? That’s hilarious. I’m pretty sure buying a second console and TV for a second player is much more viable than buying a second car just for my underage children to drive. Necessities vs. niceties.
> > > >
> > > > The splitscreen outrage is much ado about nothing. Splitscreen is being left in the last generation. This isn’t about lazy design, or doing something better…in a world of finite resources, where dedication to one thing requires sacrifice of another, I can live with that sacrifice. Many can as well.
> > >
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> > > And many can’t. The “necessities vs. niceties” argument can be thrown out the windows, because everything in video games in “niceties”. You don’t have to play Halo to survive. I see your point, however, and have to wonder: would perspective would be different if it were a different feature 343 was dropping from Halo? A feature that you personally use and believe to be a core Halo feature? Certainly the speaking out wouldn’t seem so dumb then.
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> > I have a pretty limited definition of what are and are not core Halo features. I really liked Firefight, and was bummed to see that leave. I really liked Neutral Flag gametypes, and was bummed to see that leave. But there hasn’t been anything removed before that has me up in arms about its exclusion. There’s a ton I can do without, which is why I don’t see the splitscreen outrage. I have friends that relied on splitscreen in the past, and they worked out their situation to accommodate games without splitscreen.
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> > And yes, games are entertainment and they’re all niceties. Fine. I’m simply referring to the viability of alternatives when evaluating cost benefit. A backseat for a car has few viable alternatives. Splitscreen functionality isn’t very difficult to replace.
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> Could you please leave an example of how to fix the split screen problem that does not involve paying $400 dollars for another console.

You could do what me and my brother used to do when I only had one controller: Take turns. Play separately.

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> Seriously… Not bashing… Just trying to make sense of all this for others…
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> Between the local split-screen (sprint too among other things), people just need to quit complaining.
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> Just enjoy the art of the craft they are trying to create. Try to understand where they are coming from and things from their perspective. Try to understand the complexity of what they are trying to accomplish. Try waiting to see more of the game to see what they are talking about. Give things a chance. Try to remind yourself that these people at 343 are gamers too and professionals that know much more than we do about the specifics that go into such decisions.
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> On face value, would they also like to have local split-screen? YES, they would like to BUT they don’t because they have REASONS… people just think they forgot, got lazy, don’t care, yatta yatta yatta yatta.
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> Some people here repeatedly chant the we want we want we want ‘FOR THE GAMERS!’ banter. You people are never satisfied and think life is just a simple ‘check yes for local split-screen or check no for local split-screen’. They have reasons. If they could have everything you could ever want in a game, every feature, ever single bell and whistle… they would. Again, they have reasons.
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> Also, quit making it seem so simple to drop certain frame rates, graphics, or whatever to make split-screen available. Do you actually know what they are trying to achieve or what’s going on in the game? Are you there to actually understand why certain technological decisions are made? You have to take into account the reaction and backlash from consumers that have no idea why everything is always being downgraded (if even possible) when trying to play split-screen. If you know it all then take your time and head right on over to 343 and show them all the magic that you have to offer. I bet they’d be delighted if you had real practical solutions but chances are you’d walk out of there thinking “Oh I understand… that makes sense now.”
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> So just for once let the game come out and embrace the vision that they have been working on for years now. Be excited to experience the next amazing Halo journey they will offer us. I understand sticking up for being ‘wronged’ or ‘cheated’ but really… are you being personally ruined this much by facts and information you’re not even fully aware of or an experience you have yet to even try?
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> I have ALWAYS valued split-screen and wish it for all Halo games BUT I’m a realistic gamer too that has an open mind for what industry professionals are trying to achieve. If after the fact I am not pleased and am let down… then let’s talk.
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> For now, step out of the knee jerk society we live in and give 343 a chance to present the art they’ve been working so hard to create for us

You have an absolutely valid opinion on this. But…

As a consumer, I can choose where I spend my disposable income. If I feel that a company doesn’t value me, then I can (and do) choose to spend my money elsewhere. That is just as valid opinion as yours.

Halo 5 could be the most technologically advanced and immersive game in FPS history. In my eyes, it will be diminished and my excitement for it has definitely been reduced with the removal of split-screen campaign co-op. That’s my own personal feeling on it and I don’t think it’s any less valid than any other opinion that has been expressed on this thread. Will I buy it? Perhaps, though not at launch. Maybe after a year and I can pick it up used at Gamestop really cheaply…

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> > > > > Did I just see split-screen being compared to backseats of a car? That’s hilarious. I’m pretty sure buying a second console and TV for a second player is much more viable than buying a second car just for my underage children to drive. Necessities vs. niceties.
> > > > >
> > > > > The splitscreen outrage is much ado about nothing. Splitscreen is being left in the last generation. This isn’t about lazy design, or doing something better…in a world of finite resources, where dedication to one thing requires sacrifice of another, I can live with that sacrifice. Many can as well.
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> > > > And many can’t. The “necessities vs. niceties” argument can be thrown out the windows, because everything in video games in “niceties”. You don’t have to play Halo to survive. I see your point, however, and have to wonder: would perspective would be different if it were a different feature 343 was dropping from Halo? A feature that you personally use and believe to be a core Halo feature? Certainly the speaking out wouldn’t seem so dumb then.
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> > > I have a pretty limited definition of what are and are not core Halo features. I really liked Firefight, and was bummed to see that leave. I really liked Neutral Flag gametypes, and was bummed to see that leave. But there hasn’t been anything removed before that has me up in arms about its exclusion. There’s a ton I can do without, which is why I don’t see the splitscreen outrage. I have friends that relied on splitscreen in the past, and they worked out their situation to accommodate games without splitscreen.
> > >
> > > And yes, games are entertainment and they’re all niceties. Fine. I’m simply referring to the viability of alternatives when evaluating cost benefit. A backseat for a car has few viable alternatives. Splitscreen functionality isn’t very difficult to replace.
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> > Could you please leave an example of how to fix the split screen problem that does not involve paying $400 dollars for another console.
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> You could do what me and my brother used to do when I only had one controller: Take turns. Play separately.

Or play multiplayer together since its still 2 player split screen multiplayer

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> > > > > Did I just see split-screen being compared to backseats of a car? That’s hilarious. I’m pretty sure buying a second console and TV for a second player is much more viable than buying a second car just for my underage children to drive. Necessities vs. niceties.
> > > > >
> > > > > The splitscreen outrage is much ado about nothing. Splitscreen is being left in the last generation. This isn’t about lazy design, or doing something better…in a world of finite resources, where dedication to one thing requires sacrifice of another, I can live with that sacrifice. Many can as well.
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> > > > And many can’t. The “necessities vs. niceties” argument can be thrown out the windows, because everything in video games in “niceties”. You don’t have to play Halo to survive. I see your point, however, and have to wonder: would perspective would be different if it were a different feature 343 was dropping from Halo? A feature that you personally use and believe to be a core Halo feature? Certainly the speaking out wouldn’t seem so dumb then.
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> > > I have a pretty limited definition of what are and are not core Halo features. I really liked Firefight, and was bummed to see that leave. I really liked Neutral Flag gametypes, and was bummed to see that leave. But there hasn’t been anything removed before that has me up in arms about its exclusion. There’s a ton I can do without, which is why I don’t see the splitscreen outrage. I have friends that relied on splitscreen in the past, and they worked out their situation to accommodate games without splitscreen.
> > >
> > > And yes, games are entertainment and they’re all niceties. Fine. I’m simply referring to the viability of alternatives when evaluating cost benefit. A backseat for a car has few viable alternatives. Splitscreen functionality isn’t very difficult to replace.
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> > Could you please leave an example of how to fix the split screen problem that does not involve paying $400 dollars for another console.
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> You could do what me and my brother used to do when I only had one controller: Take turns. Play separately.

But then why is EA supporting split-screen local co-op with Battlefront on both the PS4 and Xbox One? They don’t seem to think playing together in a room is so “last generation”.

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> > > > > > > > > 343 said the game will support 2 players split screen to allow tha game running on stady 60 fps. It is better for the game to stady run on 60 fps rather than having 4 players split screen.
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What is better for you may not be for other people.
> > > > > > > > Things change with time but this is a mistake.
> > > > > > > > I don’t have a Xbox One yet, so can’t talk about 30fps vs 60fps but I imagine it makes a big impact in Halo gameplay.
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> > > > > > > > People have less time for video games as they age, I owned Master System, Saturn, Dreamcast, Xbox and X360, I played a lot of single player, since Xbox times, my gaming time is 90% Pes/Fifa and Halo.
> > > > > > > > I fell in love with Halo as many of my friends did, even if most of them never owned a Xbox.
> > > > > > > > Halo split-screen and LAN are two of the best memories I have from my life, countless hours of adrenaline and trash talk.
> > > > > > > > No other game gave/give me the experience I have when playing Halo.
> > > > > > > > That experience improved till Halo 3, i played a lot of Halo Reach also but not as fun, Halo 4 was unplayable and the maps terrible.
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> > > > > > > > I don’t play as much split-screen as much as I did but the Halo we still play is Halo 3, it’s the Halo that gives me the experience I enjoy the most.
> > > > > > > > Since Halo 3 I’m waiting for an UPDATED/MODERN version of that. 343 seems to deliver that with Halo 5 but they take out the split-screen so game over to that.
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> > > > > > > > Give the game another name, Halo without split screen IS NOT HALO.
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> > > > > > > Yes it is.
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jet packs, armor abilities, loadouts, terrible splitscreen, etc…
> > > > > > The same I say Halo without split-screen is not Halo, I say Halo 4 MP is not Halo.
> > > > > > Halo has been selling less since Halo 3, as well as the online community.
> > > > > > 343 added things to the game that were not needed and now they are taking pieces of the core experience.
> > > > > > Split-Screen is one of the pillars that made Halo the brand it is now, it can’t be taken away.
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> > > > > Halo 4 was the best selling Halo to date. Halo 5 is nearing the amount of preorders halo 4 had at this point in its development, and that is on a new console. I’m not sure where you got that statistic of Halo selling less since 3 but it’s false. Halo 4 mp is Halo. Just because it isn’t what you expected it to be does not make it something else entirely. You may not want to play because they are taking out a feature that only a very small amount of people still use, but that doesn’t make the game any less Halo.
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> > > > Actually Halo 3 still is. Stop spreading lies. Many people became Halo fans because they could sit around one console with friends and family and experience the game in a way gamers today just do not understand.
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> > > > Also Halo 4 launched to 80 million xbox owners, Halo 3 launched to about 20 million. Halo ODST and Halo Reach did not sell as well as Halo 3. Halo 4 should destroy Halo 3 in sales.
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> > > > I would also like to know where you are getting your statistic for number of people who split screen from.
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> > > Actually Halo 4 is. Best selling, and most sold are two different things. Halo 4 sold a ton more in less time, which means that it sold better. Halo 3 has been out for how many years? Halo 4 is better selling. How many times do you see people online using splitscreen? I barely see any. None of my friends use it, none of their friends use it. Just stop.
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> > If maybe you stopped making up terms and realized that you are on the wrong with that best selling BS, on top of ignoring all the real people on this thread that feel upset… Maybe someone would listen to your points (if you have ever made one instead of trolling and bashing) and would see you as a person and not as a apathetic, egoist dildochugger.
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> *Says I’m trolling and that I don’t bring up actual points
> *Resorts to name calling.
> If you’ve seen my other posts you would know I understand why people are upset. I don’t understand why they think it’s gamebreaking. I’m only apathetic towards those that don’t deserve sympathy.

So If you’ve made your points already what are you trying to achieve? If you understand the feelings of these people you would know that you aren’t making no good being apathetic to no one, deserved or not. And I’m sorry for that extreme rant and for saying that to you, really, It’s only that I think that we already have too much going on here to also have people making non constructive posts.

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> > > > > Did I just see split-screen being compared to backseats of a car? That’s hilarious. I’m pretty sure buying a second console and TV for a second player is much more viable than buying a second car just for my underage children to drive. Necessities vs. niceties.
> > > > >
> > > > > The splitscreen outrage is much ado about nothing. Splitscreen is being left in the last generation. This isn’t about lazy design, or doing something better…in a world of finite resources, where dedication to one thing requires sacrifice of another, I can live with that sacrifice. Many can as well.
> > > >
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> > > > And many can’t. The “necessities vs. niceties” argument can be thrown out the windows, because everything in video games in “niceties”. You don’t have to play Halo to survive. I see your point, however, and have to wonder: would perspective would be different if it were a different feature 343 was dropping from Halo? A feature that you personally use and believe to be a core Halo feature? Certainly the speaking out wouldn’t seem so dumb then.
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> > > I have a pretty limited definition of what are and are not core Halo features. I really liked Firefight, and was bummed to see that leave. I really liked Neutral Flag gametypes, and was bummed to see that leave. But there hasn’t been anything removed before that has me up in arms about its exclusion. There’s a ton I can do without, which is why I don’t see the splitscreen outrage. I have friends that relied on splitscreen in the past, and they worked out their situation to accommodate games without splitscreen.
> > >
> > > And yes, games are entertainment and they’re all niceties. Fine. I’m simply referring to the viability of alternatives when evaluating cost benefit. A backseat for a car has few viable alternatives. Splitscreen functionality isn’t very difficult to replace.
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> >
> > Could you please leave an example of how to fix the split screen problem that does not involve paying $400 dollars for another console.
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> You could do what me and my brother used to do when I only had one controller: Take turns. Play separately.

I get that, but when you are playing with friends over live, this gets really annoying over time and takes away from the fun.

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> > > > > > Did I just see split-screen being compared to backseats of a car? That’s hilarious. I’m pretty sure buying a second console and TV for a second player is much more viable than buying a second car just for my underage children to drive. Necessities vs. niceties.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The splitscreen outrage is much ado about nothing. Splitscreen is being left in the last generation. This isn’t about lazy design, or doing something better…in a world of finite resources, where dedication to one thing requires sacrifice of another, I can live with that sacrifice. Many can as well.
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> > > > > And many can’t. The “necessities vs. niceties” argument can be thrown out the windows, because everything in video games in “niceties”. You don’t have to play Halo to survive. I see your point, however, and have to wonder: would perspective would be different if it were a different feature 343 was dropping from Halo? A feature that you personally use and believe to be a core Halo feature? Certainly the speaking out wouldn’t seem so dumb then.
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> > > > I have a pretty limited definition of what are and are not core Halo features. I really liked Firefight, and was bummed to see that leave. I really liked Neutral Flag gametypes, and was bummed to see that leave. But there hasn’t been anything removed before that has me up in arms about its exclusion. There’s a ton I can do without, which is why I don’t see the splitscreen outrage. I have friends that relied on splitscreen in the past, and they worked out their situation to accommodate games without splitscreen.
> > > >
> > > > And yes, games are entertainment and they’re all niceties. Fine. I’m simply referring to the viability of alternatives when evaluating cost benefit. A backseat for a car has few viable alternatives. Splitscreen functionality isn’t very difficult to replace.
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> > > Could you please leave an example of how to fix the split screen problem that does not involve paying $400 dollars for another console.
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> > You could do what me and my brother used to do when I only had one controller: Take turns. Play separately.
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> Or play multiplayer together since its still 2 player split screen multiplayer

This has not even been confirmed by recent info, more recent info said split screen isn’t in the game at all.

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> > > > > > Did I just see split-screen being compared to backseats of a car? That’s hilarious. I’m pretty sure buying a second console and TV for a second player is much more viable than buying a second car just for my underage children to drive. Necessities vs. niceties.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The splitscreen outrage is much ado about nothing. Splitscreen is being left in the last generation. This isn’t about lazy design, or doing something better…in a world of finite resources, where dedication to one thing requires sacrifice of another, I can live with that sacrifice. Many can as well.
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> > > > > And many can’t. The “necessities vs. niceties” argument can be thrown out the windows, because everything in video games in “niceties”. You don’t have to play Halo to survive. I see your point, however, and have to wonder: would perspective would be different if it were a different feature 343 was dropping from Halo? A feature that you personally use and believe to be a core Halo feature? Certainly the speaking out wouldn’t seem so dumb then.
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> > > > I have a pretty limited definition of what are and are not core Halo features. I really liked Firefight, and was bummed to see that leave. I really liked Neutral Flag gametypes, and was bummed to see that leave. But there hasn’t been anything removed before that has me up in arms about its exclusion. There’s a ton I can do without, which is why I don’t see the splitscreen outrage. I have friends that relied on splitscreen in the past, and they worked out their situation to accommodate games without splitscreen.
> > > >
> > > > And yes, games are entertainment and they’re all niceties. Fine. I’m simply referring to the viability of alternatives when evaluating cost benefit. A backseat for a car has few viable alternatives. Splitscreen functionality isn’t very difficult to replace.
> > >
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> > > Could you please leave an example of how to fix the split screen problem that does not involve paying $400 dollars for another console.
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> >
> > You could do what me and my brother used to do when I only had one controller: Take turns. Play separately.
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> But then why is EA supporting split-screen local co-op with Battlefront on both the PS4 and Xbox One? They don’t seem to think playing together in a room is so “last generation”.

ahhh… Star Wars, always there when I need it…

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I think the whole 2 player multiplayer but no campaign co-op is throwing people off. On one hand, having split screen in multiplayer but not for campaign seems like a slap in the face. But then you think about implementation, and how split screen multiplayer is more common among friends than co-op, and you realize that if they could’ve done splitscreen co-op, they would’ve done it. That means there must be some campaign features and experiences that just cannot warrant split screen co-op

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> I think the whole 2 player multiplayer but no campaign co-op is throwing people off. On one hand, having split screen in multiplayer but not for campaign seems like a slap in the face. But then you think about implementation, and how split screen multiplayer is more common among friends than co-op, and you realize that if they could’ve done splitscreen co-op, they would’ve done it. That means there must be some campaign features and experiences that just cannot warrant split screen co-op

They had the quick events in Halo 4, they just went to the perspective of the 1st player.

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I’m so glad that my "it’s not going to happen’ stance was correct.
I’m also SOOOOO much happier that it’s going to refuse to cater to you people and ruin the 60fps, just because you want to play with a friend the cheap way.

<3 343.

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Myself and my wife have played every halo game splitscreen, we love the series. Splitscreen co-op is where it’s at for us. That’s how we like to play the game.

To quote my wife: “Well, screw those guys then.”

It was a killer feature for us and it’s gone, so we’re out.

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> > Seriously… Not bashing… Just trying to make sense of all this for others…
> >
> > Between the local split-screen (sprint too among other things), people just need to quit complaining.
> >
> > Just enjoy the art of the craft they are trying to create. Try to understand where they are coming from and things from their perspective. Try to understand the complexity of what they are trying to accomplish. Try waiting to see more of the game to see what they are talking about. Give things a chance. Try to remind yourself that these people at 343 are gamers too and professionals that know much more than we do about the specifics that go into such decisions.
> >
> > On face value, would they also like to have local split-screen? YES, they would like to BUT they don’t because they have REASONS… people just think they forgot, got lazy, don’t care, yatta yatta yatta yatta.
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> > Some people here repeatedly chant the we want we want we want ‘FOR THE GAMERS!’ banter. You people are never satisfied and think life is just a simple ‘check yes for local split-screen or check no for local split-screen’. They have reasons. If they could have everything you could ever want in a game, every feature, ever single bell and whistle… they would. Again, they have reasons.
> >
> > Also, quit making it seem so simple to drop certain frame rates, graphics, or whatever to make split-screen available. Do you actually know what they are trying to achieve or what’s going on in the game? Are you there to actually understand why certain technological decisions are made? You have to take into account the reaction and backlash from consumers that have no idea why everything is always being downgraded (if even possible) when trying to play split-screen. If you know it all then take your time and head right on over to 343 and show them all the magic that you have to offer. I bet they’d be delighted if you had real practical solutions but chances are you’d walk out of there thinking “Oh I understand… that makes sense now.”
> >
> > So just for once let the game come out and embrace the vision that they have been working on for years now. Be excited to experience the next amazing Halo journey they will offer us. I understand sticking up for being ‘wronged’ or ‘cheated’ but really… are you being personally ruined this much by facts and information you’re not even fully aware of or an experience you have yet to even try?
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> > I have ALWAYS valued split-screen and wish it for all Halo games BUT I’m a realistic gamer too that has an open mind for what industry professionals are trying to achieve. If after the fact I am not pleased and am let down… then let’s talk.
> >
> > For now, step out of the knee jerk society we live in and give 343 a chance to present the art they’ve been working so hard to create for us
>
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> You have an absolutely valid opinion on this. But…
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> As a consumer, I can choose where I spend my disposable income. If I feel that a company doesn’t value me, then I can (and do) choose to spend my money elsewhere. That is just as valid opinion as yours.
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> Halo 5 could be the most technologically advanced and immersive game in FPS history. In my eyes, it will be diminished and my excitement for it has definitely been reduced with the removal of split-screen campaign co-op. That’s my own personal feeling on it and I don’t think it’s any less valid than any other opinion that has been expressed on this thread. Will I buy it? Perhaps, though not at launch. Maybe after a year and I can pick it up used at Gamestop really cheaply…

I agree with what you’re saying even though I never brought up the topic of money. You are free to spend your money anywhere you please and if it’s not on Halo because of lack of local split-screen then no need to complain… that’s a choice you made.

I too value the opportunity to play along side my son, nephew, and friends during the campaign on local split-screen and being able to explain all of the lore behind each part.

BUT… just like how you don’t care as I do…

I do want the best looking, playing, technologically advanced game I can play because I want to experience the most out of Halo and if that means I can’t play ‘local’ split-screen then I’m okay with that because I know I can at least still play co-op. Since playing the campaign with my son and nephew means so much I will still find a way to play with them through another console and we will all get to play the best looking, playing, technologically advanced game together… to me that’s worth the trade where for you it may not be.

You can have ‘local’ co-op but not get the greatest gameplay vision/experience.
OR…
You can have the greatest gameplay vision/experience at the expense or ‘local’ BUT STILL GET co-op.

I’ll take the latter everytime but again you may not. I will say though that you just shouldn’t assume you would always take the former until you’ve played the game because you may have a different understanding of what 343s vision is and change your opinion.

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> Could you please leave an example of how to fix the split screen problem that does not involve paying $400 dollars for another console.

That’s the big kid option. We also have the kindergarten option: sharing, and taking turns.

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> I’m so glad that my "it’s not going to happen’ stance was correct.
> I’m also SOOOOO much happier that it’s going to refuse to cater to you people and ruin the 60fps, just because you want to play with a friend the cheap way.
>
> <3 343.

And here we go with the, “you guys are cheap because you guys won’t drop another $400 for another Xbox and $60 for another game so that you can play with the same person who is in the same room as you”.

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> > Guys im a little lost as I feel like there are conflictions within this thread.
> > So can someone clarify for me, can I play Halo 5 campaign split screen on my xbox one with my fiancee?
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> Nope,you can’t.It was stated in the GameInformer article and it is also confirmed.343 will gives us a proper explanation to their decision at the e3

Have 343i confirmed they will address this at E3? I haven’t seen anything, I think they will address it purely because it’s inevitable they’re going to get asked about it

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> > Could you please leave an example of how to fix the split screen problem that does not involve paying $400 dollars for another console.
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> That’s the big kid option. We also have the kindergarten option: sharing, and taking turns.

That is what split screen is for, sharing the same console. By removing it, it seems that everyone has to have there own console that only they use. I don’t think you would be to happy if you were in the same situation. While you may have good intent, swapping the controller will get old with a lot of people, fast. By doing this they are pointing people, like me, who share a console at a disadvantage, players like you who have it all to yourself could care less on what happens to us.

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Hold on a second, it say here that split screen co-op will be online and require Gold yes? Would split screen work if both my brother and I had separate Live accounts on the same console? what about Guests? That’s how my friends play Halo, one is the account, the other is a guest.