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> <mark>Just a friendly reminder to please stay on topic and be respectful of each others opinions. We may have differing opinions, but at the end of the day, we’re all Halo fans.</mark> <mark>So please, if you wish this thread to remain open, keep it clean and constructive. Thanks.</mark>
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> It seems a lot of games this generation and a few last generation; have concentrated so heavily on providing an out of this world experience that they have forgotten the fun you can have with a few mates and some tinnies. RIP Big Bang - Style Halo Nights! 
Actually when you have wife and kids, this kind of experience comeback. Problem is that less and less developers cater that kind of needs. If 343i decides to cut this branch of Halo’s fanbase, that’s bad for everyone.
Star Wars Battlefront on the PS4 specifies that it will do split-screen co-op, online or off-line. Now, is that a consequence of the PS4 having more horsepower, a conscious decision on the part of the development studio, and/or Electronic Arts/Sony not wanting to say “too bad!” to a money-paying segment of their customers?
Hmmm. Description for the game for Xbox One also states split-screen co-op will be available online or off-line. Now that begs the question - Is EA a better development studio, or are they not slavishly tied to 60fps?
I have not used splitscreen since the week Reach came out.
So meh. Doesn’t affect me.
I’m sorry but I just don’t have the time to go through 40 pages and didn’t see anything after a quick Google, so let me ask this question:
Has there been any confirmation, since the Game Informer article, that multiplayer can still be split screened? Or are people basing this from old tweets from Josh (which incidentally, he had also tweeted that coop campaign would have split screen which is now no longer the case)?
If anyone could enlighten me here, I’d appreciate it.
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> > a bunch of stuff I cut out to save space
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> I agree with you 100%
> A 14year old tradition that I, my brother and oldest friend had was playing Halo splitscreen. Splitscreen campaign is for me what Halo is all about! Thats the advantage it had over other simular titles.I don’t care if the FPS is closer to 30 in splitscreen and if the edge smothing and whatnot is not excellent, I just want to be able to enjoy Halo as I have been doing since 2001.
I feel your pain buddy. Truly.
Of course the only thing that is going to matter is sales numbers and pre-orders. That’s the only language the big developers and publishers understand. It’s why the Xbox One got a radical overhaul after it’s disastrous announcement 2 years ago because pre-order numbers were abysmal. Suddenly, the voices were heard when they metaphorically said “no thank you”. That silence was deafening.
If, however, people keep pre-ordering it, the series will just keep heading down this path. I hope that those of us who are unsatisfied with this move will speak with their wallets and not just their keyboards. If enough folks cancel their pre-orders or just don’t put down that money to begin with, the message will be heard. Or maybe the splitscreen naysayers are right and this move by 343 won’t matter in the long run. But I sure hope that isn’t the case. I honestly don’t know how to NOT be a Halo fan. It’s been part of my identity for so long. More people know me as “The guy who used to draw Halo comics” than know me as Paul. 
Cheers!
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> > It seems a lot of games this generation and a few last generation; have concentrated so heavily on providing an out of this world experience that they have forgotten the fun you can have with a few mates and some tinnies. RIP Big Bang - Style Halo Nights!
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> Actually when you have wife and kids, this kind of experience comeback. Problem is that less and less developers cater that kind of needs. If 343i decides to cut this branch of Halo’s fanbase, that’s bad for everyone.
This. Although it seems some development studios <cough>EA<cough> still seem to “get” the value of playing a game with friends in the SAME room on the SAME console.
But, if 343/Microsoft decides they don’t value that as much, then it may be time to decide if the Xbox will be my long-term platform/console/eco-system.
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> I have not used splitscreen since the week Reach came out.
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> So meh. Doesn’t affect me.
Hopefully when they cut a feature that does affect you, your cries will be met with less indifference and apathy than you’ve shown those of us who are affected by this.
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> Just a friendly reminder to please stay on topic and be respectful of each others opinions. We may have differing opinions, but at the end of the day, we’re all Halo fans.
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> So please, if you wish this thread to remain open, keep it clean and constructive. Thanks.
Will do, sarcasmbully. Thanks for the reminder.
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> Well Josh Holmes said it first, and Ill say it again. If you dont want to play the game, dont buy it. They arent making the game for people who wont play it. They are making it for people who are.
-Yoink- YOU -Yoink- HOLE! Lol I’m just kidding, for real.
Seriously, though, that’s not a very good platform for any franchise. “If you don’t like the decision we’re making, then screw you!” Nah, that’s not good enough for me and most Halo fans.
Guys im a little lost as I feel like there are conflictions within this thread.
So can someone clarify for me, can I play Halo 5 campaign split screen on my xbox one with my fiancee?
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> > I have not used splitscreen since the week Reach came out.
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> > So meh. Doesn’t affect me.
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> Hopefully when they cut a feature that does affect you, your cries will be met with less indifference and apathy than you’ve shown those of us who are affected by this.
Yep the 'ole “Im alright Jack mentality” strikes again.
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> Guys im a little lost as I feel like there are conflictions within this thread.
> So can someone clarify for me, can I play Halo 5 campaign split screen on my xbox one with my fiancee?
Nope,you can’t.It was stated in the GameInformer article and it is also confirmed.343 will gives us a proper explanation to their decision at the e3
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> Guys im a little lost as I feel like there are conflictions within this thread.
> So can someone clarify for me, can I play Halo 5 campaign split screen on my xbox one with my fiancee?
No, you cannot, unless you have another Xbox one laying around.
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> Guys im a little lost as I feel like there are conflictions within this thread.
> So can someone clarify for me, can I play Halo 5 campaign split screen on my xbox one with my fiancee?
If you mean sitting on the couch together and playing with two controllers, one copy of the game, on one console, then no.
It has been stated by various representatives of 343 that split-screen can’t be done in Halo 5 due to the game being written to 60fps and anything lower than that wrecks the game.
Allegedly 2-player multiplayer is possible, but MP has never been a big thing for me. I’m a campaign kind of guy.
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> > Guys im a little lost as I feel like there are conflictions within this thread.
> > So can someone clarify for me, can I play Halo 5 campaign split screen on my xbox one with my fiancee?
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> If you mean sitting on the couch together and playing with two controllers, one copy of the game, on one console, then no.
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> It has been stated by various representatives of 343 that split-screen can’t be done in Halo 5 due to the game being written to 60fps and anything lower than that wrecks the game.
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> Allegedly 2-player multiplayer is possible, but MP has never been a big thing for me. I’m a campaign kind of guy.
What about Custom games?
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> > > Guys im a little lost as I feel like there are conflictions within this thread.
> > > So can someone clarify for me, can I play Halo 5 campaign split screen on my xbox one with my fiancee?
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> > If you mean sitting on the couch together and playing with two controllers, one copy of the game, on one console, then no.
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> > It has been stated by various representatives of 343 that split-screen can’t be done in Halo 5 due to the game being written to 60fps and anything lower than that wrecks the game.
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> > Allegedly 2-player multiplayer is possible, but MP has never been a big thing for me. I’m a campaign kind of guy.
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> What about Custom games?
They will most likely support 2-player split-screen max.
Once again, if your only reason for buying a Halo game is to play splitscreen campaign, why even get a Halo game in the first place? There is so much more to Halo than something like splitscreen. And to all of the people saying that their friends shouldn’t have to buy an xbox one just to play Xbox One games with them, do you realize what that sounds like? I have a little more sympathy for the people that have a wife and kids and buying multiple consoles doesn’t really make sense for that, but the rest of you, suck it up. Your friends should have to have a console to play with you.
Seriously… Not bashing… Just trying to make sense of all this for others…
Between the local split-screen (sprint too among other things), people just need to quit complaining.
Just enjoy the art of the craft they are trying to create. Try to understand where they are coming from and things from their perspective. Try to understand the complexity of what they are trying to accomplish. Try waiting to see more of the game to see what they are talking about. Give things a chance. Try to remind yourself that these people at 343 are gamers too and professionals that know much more than we do about the specifics that go into such decisions.
On face value, would they also like to have local split-screen? YES, they would like to BUT they don’t because they have REASONS… people just think they forgot, got lazy, don’t care, yatta yatta yatta yatta.
Some people here repeatedly chant the we want we want we want ‘FOR THE GAMERS!’ banter. You people are never satisfied and think life is just a simple ‘check yes for local split-screen or check no for local split-screen’. They have reasons. If they could have everything you could ever want in a game, every feature, ever single bell and whistle… they would. Again, they have reasons.
Also, quit making it seem so simple to drop certain frame rates, graphics, or whatever to make split-screen available. Do you actually know what they are trying to achieve or what’s going on in the game? Are you there to actually understand why certain technological decisions are made? You have to take into account the reaction and backlash from consumers that have no idea why everything is always being downgraded (if even possible) when trying to play split-screen. If you know it all then take your time and head right on over to 343 and show them all the magic that you have to offer. I bet they’d be delighted if you had real practical solutions but chances are you’d walk out of there thinking “Oh I understand… that makes sense now.”
So just for once let the game come out and embrace the vision that they have been working on for years now. Be excited to experience the next amazing Halo journey they will offer us. I understand sticking up for being ‘wronged’ or ‘cheated’ but really… are you being personally ruined this much by facts and information you’re not even fully aware of or an experience you have yet to even try?
I have ALWAYS valued split-screen and wish it for all Halo games BUT I’m a realistic gamer too that has an open mind for what industry professionals are trying to achieve. If after the fact I am not pleased and am let down… then let’s talk.
For now, step out of the knee jerk society we live in and give 343 a chance to present the art they’ve been working so hard to create for us
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> > Did I just see split-screen being compared to backseats of a car? That’s hilarious. I’m pretty sure buying a second console and TV for a second player is much more viable than buying a second car just for my underage children to drive. Necessities vs. niceties.
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> > The splitscreen outrage is much ado about nothing. Splitscreen is being left in the last generation. This isn’t about lazy design, or doing something better…in a world of finite resources, where dedication to one thing requires sacrifice of another, I can live with that sacrifice. Many can as well.
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> And many can’t. The “necessities vs. niceties” argument can be thrown out the windows, because everything in video games in “niceties”. You don’t have to play Halo to survive. I see your point, however, and have to wonder: would perspective would be different if it were a different feature 343 was dropping from Halo? A feature that you personally use and believe to be a core Halo feature? Certainly the speaking out wouldn’t seem so dumb then.
I have a pretty limited definition of what are and are not core Halo features. I really liked Firefight, and was bummed to see that leave. I really liked Neutral Flag gametypes, and was bummed to see that leave. But there hasn’t been anything removed before that has me up in arms about its exclusion. There’s a ton I can do without, which is why I don’t see the splitscreen outrage. I have friends that relied on splitscreen in the past, and they worked out their situation to accommodate games without splitscreen.
And yes, games are entertainment and they’re all niceties. Fine. I’m simply referring to the viability of alternatives when evaluating cost benefit. A backseat for a car has few viable alternatives. Splitscreen functionality isn’t very difficult to replace.
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> > > > > > > 343 said the game will support 2 players split screen to allow tha game running on stady 60 fps. It is better for the game to stady run on 60 fps rather than having 4 players split screen.
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> > > > > > What is better for you may not be for other people.
> > > > > > Things change with time but this is a mistake.
> > > > > > I don’t have a Xbox One yet, so can’t talk about 30fps vs 60fps but I imagine it makes a big impact in Halo gameplay.
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> > > > > > People have less time for video games as they age, I owned Master System, Saturn, Dreamcast, Xbox and X360, I played a lot of single player, since Xbox times, my gaming time is 90% Pes/Fifa and Halo.
> > > > > > I fell in love with Halo as many of my friends did, even if most of them never owned a Xbox.
> > > > > > Halo split-screen and LAN are two of the best memories I have from my life, countless hours of adrenaline and trash talk.
> > > > > > No other game gave/give me the experience I have when playing Halo.
> > > > > > That experience improved till Halo 3, i played a lot of Halo Reach also but not as fun, Halo 4 was unplayable and the maps terrible.
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> > > > > > I don’t play as much split-screen as much as I did but the Halo we still play is Halo 3, it’s the Halo that gives me the experience I enjoy the most.
> > > > > > Since Halo 3 I’m waiting for an UPDATED/MODERN version of that. 343 seems to deliver that with Halo 5 but they take out the split-screen so game over to that.
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> > > > > > Give the game another name, Halo without split screen IS NOT HALO.
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> > > > > Yes it is.
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> > > > Jet packs, armor abilities, loadouts, terrible splitscreen, etc…
> > > > The same I say Halo without split-screen is not Halo, I say Halo 4 MP is not Halo.
> > > > Halo has been selling less since Halo 3, as well as the online community.
> > > > 343 added things to the game that were not needed and now they are taking pieces of the core experience.
> > > > Split-Screen is one of the pillars that made Halo the brand it is now, it can’t be taken away.
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> > > Halo 4 was the best selling Halo to date. Halo 5 is nearing the amount of preorders halo 4 had at this point in its development, and that is on a new console. I’m not sure where you got that statistic of Halo selling less since 3 but it’s false. Halo 4 mp is Halo. Just because it isn’t what you expected it to be does not make it something else entirely. You may not want to play because they are taking out a feature that only a very small amount of people still use, but that doesn’t make the game any less Halo.
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> > Actually Halo 3 still is. Stop spreading lies. Many people became Halo fans because they could sit around one console with friends and family and experience the game in a way gamers today just do not understand.
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> > Also Halo 4 launched to 80 million xbox owners, Halo 3 launched to about 20 million. Halo ODST and Halo Reach did not sell as well as Halo 3. Halo 4 should destroy Halo 3 in sales.
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> > I would also like to know where you are getting your statistic for number of people who split screen from.
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> Actually Halo 4 is. Best selling, and most sold are two different things. Halo 4 sold a ton more in less time, which means that it sold better. Halo 3 has been out for how many years? Halo 4 is better selling. How many times do you see people online using splitscreen? I barely see any. None of my friends use it, none of their friends use it. Just stop.
If maybe you stopped making up terms and realized that you are on the wrong with that best selling BS, on top of ignoring all the real people on this thread that feel upset… Maybe someone would listen to your points (if you have ever made one instead of trolling and bashing) and would see you as a person and not as a apathetic, egoist individual (edited).