The Official Splitscreen Thread

Well, after searching, I think the game informer article holds a very dark secret. There is no split screen at all. multiple sites saying that local co-op is gone, that was split screen, playing on the same console.

Halo 5 has become like Destiny, it is only one player. I can’t play Halo 5 with my brother, along with our best friends who are in the same boat, I told one of them earlier today during Lunch time at school, they were shocked, so was by brother.

I… I… have no words to say, I am silent.

If there really is no split screen whatsoever 343 is gonna lose me as a player, and not even by my choice! I just won’t be able to play at all. The only time I get to play Halo is when I split screen with my GF, don’t get me wrong I’d love to play solo more often but I have to balance my video game time with work and my personal life and that only leaves so much time for Xbox. Sure we could just take turns but that’ll get annoying real quick.

The worst part is that Halo 5 looks so -Yoink- amazing! I mean 35 maps? That’s unbelievable! 343 is doing a great job with this game. The lack of split screen though is just a problem I (and clearly many others) just can’t ignore.

As a fan of Halo since the original and owner of every Halo game to date, I can say that a lack of split-screen may actually prevent me from buying Halo 5 - at least not until a significant price drop.

I never had Xbox Live for the original Xbox, so split-screen was my only way to enjoy any multiplayer experiences with Halo: CE and Halo 2. Without it, my interest in the game probably would have died long ago. Around the time of Halo 3, ODST, and Reach, I managed to acquire Xbox Live and a lot of friends who also enjoyed the Halo games. Thanks to this, my experience primarily transitioned to online coop, but I still frequently played games on split-screen with friends who were visiting or did not own a system of their own.

Then I went to college.

Suddenly, I was unable to balance work and school in a way which would allow me to devote much time to multiplayer. That - coupled with the progression system in Halo 4 - pushed me away from the multiplayer scene and, once again, a bulk of my experience with the game was from playing split-screen with friends. I recently purchased an Xbox One primarily for the single player portion of the Master Chief Collection. I have since played through many of the campaigns in split-screen with several friends who had never played Halo before and re-visited some campaigns on legendary with friends who had. In fact, that has accounted for a massive majority of my play time on the Xbox One - far beyond Destiny, Sunset Overdrive, or the MCC multiplayer.

Although I did not think Halo 4 was as good as most Halo games, I thought it was a good first entry from a new company and had high hopes for Halo 5. With this news, however, I feel like I will get far less replay value from the game and I do not feel it will be worth $60, especially after many of my friends have dropped Xbox for PC or PS4 in the wake of recent controversies.

In all honesty, I could not give the slightest toss about a graphics downgrade for split-screen play. I understand that, when it comes to implementing something like that, it is probably easier said than done. Still, I would much rather have more fun playing a game that looks alright than be stuck playing a great looking game by myself and have no desire to return to it when I’m done. After all, the Master Chief Collection seems to have sold extremely well and, frankly, those games don’t hold a candle to today’s graphics showpieces.

Maybe I’m in the minority of their sales demographic, but I can’t imaging this wont have an impact on their sales. I do wish 343 the best of luck with the game, but I am very disappointed by this news and will probably wait a year or two for a big sale or drop in price. Without split-screen, Halo 5 is almost definitely not worth $60 to me and I will be interested how many others feel the same way.


As a sort of side note, I find the big shift away from split-screen console games that we’ve seen over the past decade or so to be particularly strange. I know there are still other reasons to game on a console over PC, but it seems to me like consoles are giving up one of their greatest strengths: couch-based “party gaming”. The internet can never completely supplant local multiplayer, and local multiplayer is only economically feasible for most people when split-screen is available.

Without the ability to play with friends locally, I may as well invest a bit more in a gaming PC with more accurate controls, more games, cheaper games, no added online costs, full backwards comparability, and better graphics. I can still plug it into my TV and use an Xbox controller for most games if I want that experience and a PC also allows me to access many additional services for working, communicating, browsing the web, and much more. I am quickly finding fewer and fewer reasons not to do this.

As excited as I have been for Halo 5, I am super disappointed that there is no local co-op.

I literally met my wife over Halo. We have played every campaign together - over Xbox Live when we’re apart and split screen when we’re together. The Master Chief Collection’s saving grace after that terrible launch was that we could at least run through all the campaigns together again.

So now you’re telling me we can’t play the campaign together short of buying a whole other Xbox One and another copy of Halo 5? I’m sorry, but we have other financial priorities. This is so unbelievably disappointing for us - as long time Halo fans - that we are considering canceling our pre-order.

I’d also like some kind of confirmation that only campaign has had split screen removed and not multiplayer/online. If that’s gone too at this point, then I’m definitely putting my money somewhere else.

I might just sound like a raging person but I am genuinely pissed right the -Yoink- off when I heard about this -Yoink- and I only heard bout it like 2 min ago and I had to say something but like big -Yoinking!- woop bout 60fps I’d rather have halo 5 be at around 40-50 or some -Yoink- and have split screen like WTF I got a Xbone for HALO and I wanted to play on the couch with my brother and some buddies like the good old -Yoinking!- times of halo 3 and reach like playing on the couch is what makes consle games and company’s are ruining it for people that want side by side gaming and its stupid!

Well… In the words of 343 GS…

http://i18.servimg.com/u/f18/14/26/98/51/unacce11.jpg

I feel like this is a prime example of why console games should offer some graphics options. Those who demand 60 FPS can lower the graphics options for split-screen. Those who are fine with 30 FPS can crank up the shiny to the next level - maybe even throw in some anti-aliasing or tessellation.

I can tell you right now that i am not happy with this decision… Split screen was the main readon I played halo…I don’t care about the multiplayer tbh, I can live without it… But not being able to play with my brother, whom I’ve played every single halo game with like a billion times is dumb.
Sure nowadays there are people -Yoinking!- that games aren’t 1080p/60fps but to be honest the average gamer doesnt give a -Yoink- as long as the game is bug free and runs well then we’re happy for the most part.

This is NEXT GEN and yet we’re losing features? Is that even possible? If I had pre ordered it, I’d be canceling it right now. I won’t be getting halo 5 until it drops in price or goes on sale if it does not come with split screen

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> > > > > > That logic makes no sense but think about it this way, the consoles come bundled with how many controllers? 1. The majority of people play one person to one console over Xbox Live with their friends.
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> > > > > > This is all beside the point, which is that they have already stated that it is not feasible to include split-screen in the campaign for technical reasons so let’s move on.
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> > > > > https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/6e35355aecdf4fd0acdaee3cc4156fd4/topics/2-player-local-splitscreen-is-not-enough/24dd6ab5-2923-4b7a-9d86-04b5d53c7061/posts
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> > > > > As to your second point, well, I guess it’s not technically feasible for me to spend money on Halo 5. They could have made this work if they wanted to. There is no excuse for this. None.
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> > > > People who refuse to buy this game for this reason alone will not be missed, I’d imagine. Not by Microsoft, not by the rest of us happily playing online. So, goodbye? I guess?
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> > > So If you don’t care for the people here why are you still here? Good bye? Why don’t you get out and stop bashing and trolling people? There’s nothing worse than individuals like you that can’t feel empathy, If the halo community wouldn’t miss someone It would be you.
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> Now that If you don’t pay Gold you wont be able to experience the campaign in its best, you need to understand how this people feel when since Halo 1 they could play It without needing to buy another console or paying additional money. Why does the Xbox One support 4 controllers If its flagship doesn’t? Why did the engine have been built around 60fps if instantly that negates split-screen and at the same time you state that coop split-screen Is a thing (Josh tweets)? These are fair questions that need to be answered.
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I must say, that (in bold) is a VERY good point. Come to think of it, why does x1 support 4 controllers when most games don’t even use it anymore.

This wasn’t good news for me as well, but not a game a breaker, but if I was younger it would be for sure. Also does Halo 5 not support system link? if not that is big time disappointing!!! I LOVE system link!! I wish more games went back and put it in there games. Like Army of Two…it’s called ARMY OF TWO!!! why the heck not have system link??? Makes zero sense to me. Me and my friends still try together once a month for an all day Halo system link playing. If halo 5 doesn’t have this feature anymore… well that just makes me sad. I will miss those days.

IMO I think they should of tried hard to put 2 player split screen in, if at the very least for campaign. Does anyone know if system link is in Halo 5 or not? Did I miss that in the latest info?

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> Does anyone know if system link is in Halo 5 or not? Did I miss that in the latest info?

The Xbox One does not currently support system link at all, wired or otherwise.

Are you really making such a big deal out of this?
Frankie tweeted, or reported somewhere, that its hard for the Xbox One to split Halo 5 into rendering two players at 1080p and 60fps.

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> Are you really making such a big deal out of this?
> Frankie tweeted, or reported somewhere, that its hard for the Xbox One to split Halo 5 into rendering two players at 1080p and 60fps.

Then drop down the framerate!! FFS! NO ONE is expecting the Xbox One to churn out perfect graphics with 4 players going. This is so stupid. I expected better of 343. A lot better.

I have been a supporter of halo since the early days of halo one and have played every halo game since. But when I read the article that split screen coop is not going to be included I was very disappointed. Most of my time playing halo has been spent with a buddy sitting right next to me. But apparently no longer same as my desire to purchase halo 5.

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On the other hand, there is a similar camp who will not settle for any compromise to graphics and 60 fps I believe.

Looks like we have a Mexican standoff.

"I have to say, I’m very sad that there’s no split-sceen coop. I mean I get why, but I wish they could/would make a workaround to the FPS stability problem (maybe lower the FPS in split screen or something?). :I"- Josh11735 Youtube
Please people try and spread this out as splitscreen has always been a major part of many peoples halo experience including myself and we would be very disappointed if this wasn’t included in H5. Please try and spread this on twitter youtube etc and maybe the developers will hear and solve this “little” problem.

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> On the other hand, there is a similar camp who will not settle for any compromise to graphics and 60 fps I believe.

Except they don’t have to compromise. Since the ones who are in that camp for the most part don’t really do splitscreen at all, the graphics can stay at 1080p, 60 FPS on a single screen. We’re asking 343 to have the game downgrade its graphics only when splitscreen of any kind is running.

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They can’t. That’s not how it works.

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? How does it work?

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A Halo game without local multiplayer is like a man without a -Yoink!-… useless.

What the serious hell? The only reason my brother plays Halo with me is because of split-screen. We’ve doing Halo split-screen since 2001. I was four years old, -Yoink!-. It’s such a major staple of the series. Very saddening.