The Official Splitscreen Thread

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> > > > “You have to acknowledge the possibility that the pro testers had some influence on these decisions. Halo 5 is going to be extremely competitive and not very casual-friendly. And that’s a shame because I’m a casual gamer who has a K/D of 0.76.”
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> > > > I’m sorry, my phone doesn’t play nice when I’m trying to edit, especially for quotes.
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> > > > If what you say is true, though personally I have my doubts, it would be a mistake. A low entry level doesn’t mean there isn’t a high complexity to master a game. Sales wise it would be a mistake not to make a game easy to learn for the wider (read “monies”) audience.
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> > > > I personally believe in making slower, simpler games that can hook casual players and be enjoyable. As well as have the depth like skill jumps, weapon combos and placement for players looking for that.
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> > > > Hell it’s worked for Halo up to this point, as well as Fable, and every Nintendo franchise going.
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> > > I am trying to figure out how this ties into split screen? I don’t want to sound rude, I feel that 343 is just ignoring everyone but the competitive community, like, this is there way of making it up to the competitive crowd, by removing the casual crowd altogether. While I would not fully blame 343 has they are in a tight spot, constantly getting bashed, receiving death threats. But that does not mean they have to just close the door to semi-competitive players and casuals. First customization is downgraded, split screen is basically nonexistent, and it all comes back to one thing, Graphics. That seems to be the big thing with games these days, graphics. I admit, Halo 5 is pretty, but that does not mean you have to remove things because something may not look as good from far or because you don’t want the armor piece models nicking each other.
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> > > I live in a house where I share an Xbox with my brother, most times, we play Custom Games with our friends, some are alone, but are best friends are also in the same boat, they are brothers, they share and Xbox. They are expecting us to go out and by another $350 console and another $60 game, just so we can do, what we have done on the last-gen console. Those of us who don’t want to go out and buy another console, we are just extras, people who don’t have the determination to go out and buy another so that we can play with our siblings who are in the same room as us.
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> > > To many this may seem like a good thing, removing split screen, to others, it is sad, they will miss the memories and move on, but, what about those who can’t move on? Those who have family that share it with them? Do we just leave them in the dust, forget them? Forget me? I was looking forward to Halo 5 a lot, it would be the second Halo game that I would get around the time it came out, the first being the MCC. While I was eager to learn more about the game, Similar to EAs Battlefornt, not all of that info was positive. The more info I read, the more worried I became. I bet everyone has been in that situation before. Split screen isn’t a want for me, it is a need, because if my brother want to play to, what then? do we have to takes turns, like it is some arcade machine? A console that begs you to buy 4 controllers. Super Smash Bros. on Wii U can have up to 8 players at once locally. Xbox Ones Halo 5 can have 2, how come Wii U is doing so bad then? Sure it goes by taste, but listen again, Wii U, a next-gen console can have up to 8 players locally, Xbox can have 2. yes this only pointing at Halo 5 as the MCC does have 4 player.
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> > > But as I said earlier, how come we can’t do something that was done on last-gen?
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> > You aren’t the only one who thinks they’re catering to MLG too much. Check this out.
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> The game has sprint. They are most certainly not catering to the competitive/MLG crowd.

Sigh some ow I knew this kind of comment would appear by saying that, look for the millionth time, Halo 5 sprint is not Halo reach or 4 sprint, it has been balanced out and even toned down because people like you had a large out cry to it. Yes, I believe they are catering a little to much the the MLG crowd. they toned sprint, they removed split screen, seems like no MLG uses that old tech. I don’t know about your stance on customization. But yes, they are catering to them, it is to obvious. they want to make it up to them, for all the “terrible” thing they did, I am sorry, but bashing and death threats are not justified in my book, they are in a tight spot, the issue is how each side will deal with it, if us semi-competitive players and casuals speak out, we are quickly back lashed by the MLG fans for being dirty casuals, but if the MLG don’t get there way, oh man!! get ready to have over 1000 things of hate mail.

Guys, we’re probably not gonna get a word about splitscreen at E3.

Answer:

*Make four player split screen use 30fps instead, even lower the resolution of the game itself (in this mode) if need be. You’ll be several feet away from the television already viewing a 1/4 of the screen, it’s not like halving the total resolution is going to do anything
*Use lower quality models/textures in four player split screen, some games already do this
*Use a lower drawing distance in four player split screen, some games already do this

It’s called optimization.

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> > This is old but we seriously need an official statement from 343i.
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> Mmmmhhh…maybe there’s hope! We need to wait until E3 for more infomartions at this point.

If we wait they we surely yoink up the game even more.

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> Get a load of this: https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/community/blog-posts/clarity-regarding-halo-5-guardians-online-co-op-access
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> There was a mistake in the GameInformer, but unfortunately, it wasn’t what we were hoping for. It turns out that you will need a Gold account to do online coop. GG.

Well, that just blows this whole thing out of the water, all the people saying that this would make up for no split screen are now just left with nothing.
But, it happens, people make mistakes in interviews, Josh can’t be blamed here, but this does make this problem a bit bigger.

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> Guys, we’re probably not gonna get a word about splitscreen at E3.

I don’t care If I am double posting now, this problem is just getting worse and worse, we have to do something, message someone (if we can), like I said, you may learn more and more, but that does not mean it is good info.

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> Answer:
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> *Make four player split screen use 30fps instead, even lower the resolution of the game itself (in this mode) if need be. You’ll be several feet away from the television already viewing a 1/4 of the screen, it’s not like halving the total resolution is going to do anything
> *Use lower quality models/textures in four player split screen, some games already do this
> *Use a lower drawing distance in four player split screen, some games already do this
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> It’s called optimization.

It sounds like they want to take the lazy way out and not produce a quality game with multi player split screen coop functionality.

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> > *Make four player split screen use 30fps instead, even lower the resolution of the game itself (in this mode) if need be. You’ll be several feet away from the television already viewing a 1/4 of the screen, it’s not like halving the total resolution is going to do anything
> > *Use lower quality models/textures in four player split screen, some games already do this
> > *Use a lower drawing distance in four player split screen, some games already do this
> >
> > It’s called optimization.
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> It sounds like they want to take the lazy way out and not giproduce a quality game with multi player split screen coop functionality.

If MCC can do split screen, Halo 5 can do it too!!

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> > > Answer:
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> > > *Make four player split screen use 30fps instead, even lower the resolution of the game itself (in this mode) if need be. You’ll be several feet away from the television already viewing a 1/4 of the screen, it’s not like halving the total resolution is going to do anything
> > > *Use lower quality models/textures in four player split screen, some games already do this
> > > *Use a lower drawing distance in four player split screen, some games already do this
> > >
> > > It’s called optimization.
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> > It sounds like they want to take the lazy way out and not giproduce a quality game with multi player split screen coop functionality.
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> If MCC can do split screen, Halo 5 can do it too!!

Not even remotely the same thing at all.

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> It isn’t Halo without 4 player split screen. Remind me what made CE so popular again?

CE was popular in an age with no xbox live. Totally Irrelevant.

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> > > > > “You have to acknowledge the possibility that the pro testers had some influence on these decisions. Halo 5 is going to be extremely competitive and not very casual-friendly. And that’s a shame because I’m a casual gamer who has a K/D of 0.76.”
> > > > > I’m sorry, my phone doesn’t play nice when I’m trying to edit, especially for quotes.
> > > > > If what you say is true, though personally I have my doubts, it would be a mistake. A low entry level doesn’t mean there isn’t a high complexity to master a game. Sales wise it would be a mistake not to make a game easy to learn for the wider (read “monies”) audience.
> > > > > I personally believe in making slower, simpler games that can hook casual players and be enjoyable. As well as have the depth like skill jumps, weapon combos and placement for players looking for that.
> > > > > Hell it’s worked for Halo up to this point, as well as Fable, and every Nintendo franchise going.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I am trying to figure out how this ties into split screen? I don’t want to sound rude, I feel that 343 is just ignoring everyone but the competitive community, like, this is there way of making it up to the competitive crowd, by removing the casual crowd altogether. While I would not fully blame 343 has they are in a tight spot, constantly getting bashed, receiving death threats. But that does not mean they have to just close the door to semi-competitive players and casuals. First customization is downgraded, split screen is basically nonexistent, and it all comes back to one thing, Graphics. That seems to be the big thing with games these days, graphics. I admit, Halo 5 is pretty, but that does not mean you have to remove things because something may not look as good from far or because you don’t want the armor piece models nicking each other.
> > > > I live in a house where I share an Xbox with my brother, most times, we play Custom Games with our friends, some are alone, but are best friends are also in the same boat, they are brothers, they share and Xbox. They are expecting us to go out and by another $350 console and another $60 game, just so we can do, what we have done on the last-gen console. Those of us who don’t want to go out and buy another console, we are just extras, people who don’t have the determination to go out and buy another so that we can play with our siblings who are in the same room as us.
> > > > To many this may seem like a good thing, removing split screen, to others, it is sad, they will miss the memories and move on, but, what about those who can’t move on? Those who have family that share it with them? Do we just leave them in the dust, forget them? Forget me? I was looking forward to Halo 5 a lot, it would be the second Halo game that I would get around the time it came out, the first being the MCC. While I was eager to learn more about the game, Similar to EAs Battlefornt, not all of that info was positive. The more info I read, the more worried I became. I bet everyone has been in that situation before. Split screen isn’t a want for me, it is a need, because if my brother want to play to, what then? do we have to takes turns, like it is some arcade machine? A console that begs you to buy 4 controllers. Super Smash Bros. on Wii U can have up to 8 players at once locally. Xbox Ones Halo 5 can have 2, how come Wii U is doing so bad then? Sure it goes by taste, but listen again, Wii U, a next-gen console can have up to 8 players locally, Xbox can have 2. yes this only pointing at Halo 5 as the MCC does have 4 player.
> > > > But as I said earlier, how come we can’t do something that was done on last-gen?
> > >
> > >
> > > You aren’t the only one who thinks they’re catering to MLG too much. Check this out.
> >
> >
> > The game has sprint. They are most certainly not catering to the competitive/MLG crowd.
>
>
> Sigh some ow I knew this kind of comment would appear by saying that, look for the millionth time, Halo 5 sprint is not Halo reach or 4 sprint, it has been balanced out and even toned down because people like you had a large out cry to it. Yes, I believe they are catering a little to much the the MLG crowd. they toned sprint, they removed split screen, seems like no MLG uses that old tech. I don’t know about your stance on customization. But yes, they are catering to them, it is to obvious. they want to make it up to them, for all the “terrible” thing they did, I am sorry, but bashing and death threats are not justified in my book, they are in a tight spot, the issue is how each side will deal with it, if us semi-competitive players and casuals speak out, we are quickly back lashed by the MLG fans for being dirty casuals, but if the MLG don’t get there way, oh man!! get ready to have over 1000 things of hate mail.

I don’t care about the MLG community brats.
I care about the Family gamers the Core casual gamers. They are what makes gaming fun.
Split screen is what makes the game in the family setting fun.
Why oh why does 343 want to dis and destroy family gaming!

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> Not even remotely the same thing at all.

Yeah, lol MCC barely managed to get splitscreen working.

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> > > > Answer:
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> > > > *Make four player split screen use 30fps instead, even lower the resolution of the game itself (in this mode) if need be. You’ll be several feet away from the television already viewing a 1/4 of the screen, it’s not like halving the total resolution is going to do anything
> > > > *Use lower quality models/textures in four player split screen, some games already do this
> > > > *Use a lower drawing distance in four player split screen, some games already do this
> > > >
> > > > It’s called optimization.
> > >
> > >
> > > It sounds like they want to take the lazy way out and not giproduce a quality game with multi player split screen coop functionality.
> >
> >
> > If MCC can do split screen, Halo 5 can do it too!!
>
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> Not even remotely the same thing at all.

Well, you have to think around the corner.Both games are not optimized for splitscreen, because 343 is “listening” to their fans

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> Yeah, lol MCC barely managed to get splitscreen working.

Well, actually my MCC at least is working really well, which is why I am worried, I play a lot of MCC with my brother and friends, so I don’t know, Halo MCC is different, it is 4 last gen games, Halo 5 is a new game so, ya.

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> Great job with the Twitter flood, everyone! Keep up the hard work!

Can someone leave a link? I would love to see this, but I can’t find it on google.

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> > > > > Answer:
> > > > >
> > > > > *Make four player split screen use 30fps instead, even lower the resolution of the game itself (in this mode) if need be. You’ll be several feet away from the television already viewing a 1/4 of the screen, it’s not like halving the total resolution is going to do anything
> > > > > *Use lower quality models/textures in four player split screen, some games already do this
> > > > > *Use a lower drawing distance in four player split screen, some games already do this
> > > > >
> > > > > It’s called optimization.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It sounds like they want to take the lazy way out and not giproduce a quality game with multi player split screen coop functionality.
> > >
> > >
> > > If MCC can do split screen, Halo 5 can do it too!!
> >
> >
> > Not even remotely the same thing at all.
>
>
> Well, you have to think around the corner.Both games are not optimized for splitscreen, because 343 is listening to their fans

This part confused me, I feel like it contradicts the first part of your statement. I don’t know, that is just the feeling I am getting.

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> Can someone leave a link? I would love to see this, but I can’t find it on google.

For your troubles

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> > “You have to acknowledge the possibility that the pro testers had some influence on these decisions. Halo 5 is going to be extremely competitive and not very casual-friendly. And that’s a shame because I’m a casual gamer who has a K/D of 0.76.”
> >
> > I’m sorry, my phone doesn’t play nice when I’m trying to edit, especially for quotes.
> >
> > If what you say is true, though personally I have my doubts, it would be a mistake. A low entry level doesn’t mean there isn’t a high complexity to master a game. Sales wise it would be a mistake not to make a game easy to learn for the wider (read “monies”) audience.
> >
> > I personally believe in making slower, simpler games that can hook casual players and be enjoyable. As well as have the depth like skill jumps, weapon combos and placement for players looking for that.
> >
> > Hell it’s worked for Halo up to this point, as well as Fable, and every Nintendo franchise going.
>
>
> I am trying to figure out how this ties into split screen? I don’t want to sound rude, I feel that 343 is just ignoring everyone but the competitive community, like, this is there way of making it up to the competitive crowd, by removing the casual crowd altogether. While I would not fully blame 343 has they are in a tight spot, constantly getting bashed, receiving death threats. But that does not mean they have to just close the door to semi-competitive players and casuals. First customization is downgraded, split screen is basically nonexistent, and it all comes back to one thing, Graphics. That seems to be the big thing with games these days, graphics. I admit, Halo 5 is pretty, but that does not mean you have to remove things because something may not look as good from far or because you don’t want the armor piece models nicking each other.
>
> I live in a house where I share an Xbox with my brother, most times, we play Custom Games with our friends, some are alone, but are best friends are also in the same boat, they are brothers, they share and Xbox. They are expecting us to go out and by another $350 console and another $60 game, just so we can do, what we have done on the last-gen console. Those of us who don’t want to go out and buy another console, we are just extras, people who don’t have the determination to go out and buy another so that we can play with our siblings who are in the same room as us.
>
> To many this may seem like a good thing, removing split screen, to others, it is sad, they will miss the memories and move on, but, what about those who can’t move on? Those who have family that share it with them? Do we just leave them in the dust, forget them? Forget me? I was looking forward to Halo 5 a lot, it would be the second Halo game that I would get around the time it came out, the first being the MCC. While I was eager to learn more about the game, Similar to EAs Battlefornt, not all of that info was positive. The more info I read, the more worried I became. I bet everyone has been in that situation before. Split screen isn’t a want for me, it is a need, because if my brother want to play to, what then? do we have to takes turns, like it is some arcade machine? A console that begs you to buy 4 controllers. Super Smash Bros. on Wii U can have up to 8 players at once locally. Xbox Ones Halo 5 can have 2, how come Wii U is doing so bad then? Sure it goes by taste, but listen again, Wii U, a next-gen console can have up to 8 players locally, Xbox can have 2. yes this only pointing at Halo 5 as the MCC does have 4 player.
>
> But as I said earlier, how come we can’t do something that was done on last-gen?

I’m sorry, I was just responding to an off handed comment the OP made while responding to me.

in short he said 343i were catering to the pro crowd who don’t split screen instead of the casual crowd who do use split screen.

I believe features like this, that all levels use and enjoy, that make Halo a better more social experience are a must.

we don’t care about 60fps in split-screen, c’mon! we would play with friends, toghether! more game quality, less rubbish about graphics!