i hated playing split scree. me and my friends only did it twice in halo 3 but we just couldn’t stand the super small screen and the super low frame rate.
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> > > > This is yet another example of 343 turning its ears off and just doing whatever they want. Note to bonnie ross…you’re not going to get 30 more years of halo like this! At this rate you have got about a year two years max. I’ve never seen a company so disrespectful to the fans.
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> > > They have to make the multiplayer community happy. They have to make the compective players super happy. So don’t just blame bonnie ross blame the pro team and their community who have tied 343 hands.
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> > the pro gramers don’t make the game generate revenue. The quality and the way the game is liked by the consumers is what generates the revenu.
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> I hope you know that the game not having split screen local co-op will not affect profits in a major way. We live in a way different world than we did back in H1/H2 times
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> EDIT: And it was not a business decision. It was a gameplay quality decision
> Frank’s Neogaf post today
well see how fast we shut off the cash flow. pre order does not mean full purchase. Sorry Frankie and Bonnie are about to be rolled come post halo 5 production. I’m calling it now.
Who gives a crap about playing on s tiny screen anyway?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=167186284&highlight=#post167186284 Give this a look before you go into full rage mode. How many of you on here are complaining because split screen is something you use everyday? Hell I miss it, but I used it maybe once or twice a month at best.
I played Halo and PSO (amount many others like Mario Kart) 4 player split screen on a 14" tv.
Nowadays it’s not uncommon to have a 40-50" tv in the living room. Granted, not everyone does. But families that can afford a £400 console and its £60 game probably do.
If they aren’t supporting split screen in their first party games then there’s no point the Xbone supporting 4 controllers.
With the exclusion of 4 player split screen, the dumbing down of in game voice chat, the design that supports better solo play over team play, the promotion of team chatter as a decent substitute for using a mic, the disconnect between 343i and the Halo community. They are single handedly making Halo a less social experience, and in my opinion, a worse one.
The recent info release was fantastic, but the fact that stuff comes at the cost of the previously mentioned stuff negates all the good it does.
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> Was there splitscreen of any kind during the BETA?
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> I only owned 1 controller at the time so I couldn’t test it out.
Nope. And it was AWFUL
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> I only owned 1 controller at the time so I couldn’t test it out.
Agreed. I’ll make a list of Twitter accounts to “flood”
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> BTW Locust, what’s the exact deal we are talking about? Cos like I said in your HaloArchive thread, I am a definite no-go for four-player splitscreen coop like some crazy fools here seem to want.
We want 4 player splitscreen to return to Multiplayer and 2 player splitscreen to return to campaign. Basically make it like it has been like in every other game.
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> last time I played 4 player split screen was halo 2. Haven’t since then.
lol, please stop now. You don’t want to wake up the Dragon
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> I played Halo and PSO (amount many others like Mario Kart) 4 player split screen on a 14" tv.
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> Nowadays it’s not uncommon to have a 40-50" tv in the living room. Granted, not everyone does. But families that can afford a £400 console and its £60 game probably do.
I can vouch for this
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> If they aren’t supporting split screen in their first party games then there’s no point the Xbone supporting 4 controllers.
I know, right?
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> With the exclusion of 4 player split screen, the dumbing down of in game voice chat, the design that supports better solo play over team play, the promotion of team chatter as a decent substitute for using a mic, the disconnect between 343i and the Halo community. They are single handedly making Halo a less social experience, and in my opinion, a worse one.
You have to acknowledge the possibility that the pro testers had some influence on these decisions. Halo 5 is going to be extremely competitive and not very casual-friendly. And that’s a shame because I’m a casual gamer who has a K/D of 0.76.
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> The recent info release was fantastic, but the fact that stuff comes at the cost of the previously mentioned stuff negates all the good it does.
I swear, every time I read another hype article about this game, I"m reminded of the lack of split screen. It’s maddening.
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> > > > > This is yet another example of 343 turning its ears off and just doing whatever they want. Note to bonnie ross…you’re not going to get 30 more years of halo like this! At this rate you have got about a year two years max. I’ve never seen a company so disrespectful to the fans.
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> > > > They have to make the multiplayer community happy. They have to make the compective players super happy. So don’t just blame bonnie ross blame the pro team and their community who have tied 343 hands.
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> > I hope you know that the game not having split screen local co-op will not affect profits in a major way. We live in a way different world than we did back in H1/H2 times
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> > EDIT: And it was not a business decision. It was a gameplay quality decision
> > Frank’s Neogaf post today
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> well see how fast we shut off the cash flow. pre order does not mean full purchase. Sorry Frankie and Bonnie are about to be rolled come post halo 5 production. I’m calling it now.
No sorry you are just being ignorant at this point. Split-screen is not completely dead obviously, but its not a must-have feature anymore for a game to succeed financially especially on the X1 or PS4 (With Nintendo consoles, its a different story, different market).
I’m not saying there isn’t a place for it anymore, there obviously is as you can see by this thread, but you and the couple hundred people who are “boycotting” (we’ll see) this game are not shutting off cash flow.
> anymore for a game to succeed financially especially on the X1 or PS4 (With Nintendo consoles, its a different story, different market).
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> I’m not saying there isn’t a place for it anymore, there obviously is as you can see by this thread, but you and the couple hundred people who are “boycotting” (we’ll see) this game are not shutting off cash flow.
As much as I hate to admit it, you’re right. There simply isn’t enough of us to make a difference by boycotting, hence the reason for doing the Twitter flood.
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> I hope you know that the game not having split screen local co-op will not affect profits in a major way. We live in a way different world than we did back in H1/H2 times
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> EDIT: And it was not a business decision. It was a gameplay quality decision
> Frank’s Neogaf post today
They are the major 1st party studio of Microsoft, they have the best tools and unlimited budget. They should have found a way to make local SC work.
They admitted they did a lot wrong in Halo 4 and even so changed Halo even more with Halo 5.
There are games that can’t change too much or they will turn in something else.
All that Halo fans asked with a new Halo game was for better graphics, new maps and better balance. I would be happy with a graphics updated Halo 3.
Taking 4 player split-screen of Halo is like making Fifa single player only.
If 343 wanted to change Halo so much they should make another IP and let someone else make a real Halo.
Also, congratulations everyone for getting this on the “Hot Topics” list! The more participants the better!
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> > > I hope you know that the game not having split screen local co-op will not affect profits in a major way. We live in a way different world than we did back in H1/H2 times
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> > well see how fast we shut off the cash flow. pre order does not mean full purchase. Sorry Frankie and Bonnie are about to be rolled come post halo 5 production. I’m calling it now.
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> No sorry you are just being ignorant at this point. Split-screen is not completely dead obviously, but its not a must-have feature anymore for a game to succeed financially especially on the X1 or PS4 (With Nintendo consoles, its a different story, different market).
> I’m not saying there isn’t a place for it anymore, there obviously is as you can see by this thread, but you and the couple hundred people who are “boycotting” (we’ll see) this game are not shutting off cash flow.
You’re ignorance betrays you. Go get more Ata boys from Microsoft and 343 if you feel so inclined. I’m done with this thread. Your a noob. And don’t have the slightest idea about how a modern family with a middle class income or below will be able to be happy with this game. If you feel I’m wrong… Go snort some more happy drug. Peace…
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> You’re ignorance betrays you. Go get more Ata boys from Microsoft and 343 if you feel so inclined. I’m done with this thread. Your a noob. And don’t have the slightest idea about how a modern family with a middle class income or below will be able to be happy with this game. If you feel I’m wrong… Go snort some more happy drug. Peace…
Oh, come on, we need all the supporters we can get. Don’t let one dingus shut you down like that!
Franks posts on gaf are a good explanation. Blame the Cloud stuff Halo 5 is going to use.
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> > No sorry you are just being ignorant at this point. Split-screen is not completely dead obviously, but its not a must-have feature anymore for a game to succeed financially especially on the X1 or PS4 (With Nintendo consoles, its a different story, different market).
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> You’re ignorance betrays you. Go get more Ata boys from Microsoft and 343 if you feel so inclined. I’m done with this thread. Your a noob. And don’t have the slightest idea about how a modern family with a middle class income or below will be able to be happy with this game. If you feel I’m wrong… Go snort some more happy drug. Peace…
Lmao!! This is a classy response, I’m sure you and your family are wonderful. Thank you for the wonderful debate
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> > You’re ignorance betrays you. Go get more Ata boys from Microsoft and 343 if you feel so inclined. I’m done with this thread. Your a noob. And don’t have the slightest idea about how a modern family with a middle class income or below will be able to be happy with this game. If you feel I’m wrong… Go snort some more happy drug. Peace…
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> Oh, come on, we need all the supporters we can get. Don’t let one dingus shut you down like that!
How am I a “dingus”? I haven’t said anything too crazy. You even agreed with me above (see below)
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> > anymore for a game to succeed financially especially on the X1 or PS4 (With Nintendo consoles, its a different story, different market).
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> As much as I hate to admit it, you’re right. There simply isn’t enough of us to make a difference by boycotting, hence the reason for doing the Twitter flood.
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> > You’re ignorance betrays you. Go get more Ata boys from Microsoft and 343 if you feel so inclined. I’m done with this thread. Your a noob. And don’t have the slightest idea about how a modern family with a middle class income or below will be able to be happy with this game. If you feel I’m wrong… Go snort some more happy drug. Peace…
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> Oh, come on, we need all the supporters we can get. Don’t let one dingus shut you down like that!
ell honestly these entitlement brats tire my patience. They get everything they want… Oh dad buy me a tv and Xbox in every room cause we are brats and coders don’t know how to code anymore. its really boring and not worth the time to point out the obvious stupidity going on.
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> How am I a “dingus”? I haven’t said anything too crazy. You even agreed with me above (see below)
You’re not a dingus, I simply used that word for the sake of convincing someone to not give up. That doesn’t mean I agree with 100% of what you’re saying, of course.
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> > > > Yeah I’m a bit confused myself. I’m getting different answers through out this thread. Is 2 player coop possible? Or is coop on the same console as a whole removed?
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> You can do that with the D-Pad it as confirmed by game informer. I am disappointed by the lack of coop split screen only. I am not a big fan of the 4 way split screen for multiplayer. I always play the first campaign walkthough with my brother in every single Halo. But. I will give that up if 343i has made the Halo 5 campaign longer, more rich in story, and more immersive and smarter AI + more enemies on screen. I will sacrifice that. In this case I am thinking of buying another xbox one.
time to sound like a mega noob, but the co-op only affects campaign right? If it works for multiplayer, it should work for custom games too, right?