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> > > Welcome to the Official Splitscreen Thread.
> > > (Please make yourself at home.)
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> > > We’ve all heard the news: Halo 5 won’t support 4 player split screen, according to multiple tweets from Josh Holmes. We have to take Holmes’ words seriously because he’s the creative director for Halo 5, meaning that he makes those kinds of decisions.
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> > > As an individual who uses 4 player split screen often, this decision is extremely disappointing; it’s a shame because I loved the beta. The fact is, Halo 5’s lack of splitscreen support discourages me from buying it, and might prevent me from buying it. I certainty won’t pre-order it.
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> > > Here’s the deal: if 343 wants our support, their going to have to reconsider this decision.
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> > > Reasons to support 4 player splitscreen:
> > > - 343 will get my money Not necessarily, less people will buy it, if they can just play with their friend on the same TV, while you claim that more people will buy it for being able to have friends play, This can go either way.
> > > - Splitscreen is one of the few advantages that console gaming has over PC gaming Eh, I can see this viewpoint.
> > > - Halo 5 will have a feature that its competition lacks It’s not necessary though, in any way.
> > > - LAN parties will once again prosper You shouldn’t really need to have 4 people on a single TV to have a prosperous LAN.
> > > - The social lives of gamers will flourish Eh… not necessarily. Too few will flourish due to this, to use it as a reason for support.
> > > - Every single Halo FPS has featured 4 player splitscreen Again, not necessarily a strong reason for support, just because it was in the last few games.
> > > - Not including it for performance reasons makes the Xbox One seem like an inferior console Nope, because they would rather use that performance for other parts of the game.
> > > - From a logical standpoint, it doesn’t make sense to remove splitscreen on next gen hardware Nor does it logically make sense to put it in, just because you say it’s illogical.
> > > - Splitscreen was one of the major reasons that allowed Halo Combat Evolved to be successful To an extent, yes, but not nearly as a reason when Xbox Live is as dominating as it is.
> > > - Halo night will live on It still can.
> > > - Including split screen due to consumer backlash can help improve 343’s abysmal public relation reputation No, it can’t. It means that they will crumble to pressure because you claim to boycott them for not following YOUR direction for THEIR franchise.
> > > - The lack of 4 player split screen could be considered a design flaw …Not even close, when they already TOLD you it wasn’t there.
> > > - A considerable amount of split screen users are willing to sacrifice graphics for performance I’m not.
> > > - Single player graphics won’t be effected by split screen optimizations Not necessarily, you’re making assumptions on what they have made.
> > > - Removing it makes the game less flexible Demanding they follow your vision, and not theirs shows YOU to be less flexible.
> > > - Splitscreen is a great way to advertise the game to friends, making them likely to buy it after playing it on your Xbox Again, this is your opinion, not factual in any manner.
> > > - 1v1 multiplayer isn’t a particularly memorable experience I don’t know what you’re talking about, it’s MULTIPLAYER online for a reason.
> > > Todo List for Optimizing Splitscreen
> > > - Lock the split screen frame rate at 30 FPS to provide a consistent experience and allow the user’s brain to adapt No, it’s a next gen console. Make it 60 FPS and remove your ridiculous need for split screen.
> > > - Disable anti aliasing, anistereopic filtering, depth of field, FXAA and dynamic lighting on split screen They shouldn’t have to, just to add split screen.
> > > - Reduce/remove particles, mist/smoke effects, decals, and shaders on split screen Again, shouldn’t have to just to cater to you.
> > > - * Important: Use reduced-polygon meshes on split screen. Most 3D modeling programs have a plugin that will do this. 'copy + Paste’
> > > - Reduce the render distance but don’t go crazy on it. We should be able to spot other players across the map. (Geometry can simplify, but make sure that players are distinguishable.) ‘Copy and paste again’
> > > - Use low-res textures on split screen but make that they aren’t loaded at runtime. 'And one more Control C + Control v’
> > > Raising Awareness for Splitscreen
> > > The developers at 343 don’t browse these forums on a regular basis, and frankly, I don’t blame them. The problem is, they won’t see this thread. In order to effectively convince 343, we need to use social media to contact them.
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> > > I’ve created a hashtag on Twitter for our cause: #Halo5SplitScreen. Hash tags are powerful and spread quickly. You’re not going to get them to change their mind because you posted your opinion, and made a hashtag. I made my own hashtag for my twitch. #WatchMeYellAtMyTV, you think it’ll take off? No, probably not. Just like yours.
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> > > In order to raise awareness, tweet why you support split screen to @Halo, @JoshingtonState (Josh Holmes), @Brav, etc. Be respectful and polite: you catch more bees with honey. Be sure to provide a link to this thread because it contains valuable information. Also, include the hashtag I mentioned. You’re doing this more for an advertising for yourself than you are for split screen it seems.
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> > > References to split screen from 343
> > > - https://twitter.com/joshingtonstate/status/545000766969114625
> > > - https://twitter.com/joshingtonstate/status/551899554191142912
> > > - https://twitter.com/joshingtonstate/status/546126391201128448
> > > I’ll add to the OP once my Writer’s Block clears up.
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> > > Until then, let us come together and prove to Josh Holmes and the rest of 343 Industries that this is unacceptable.
> > > It is acceptable. Bending over backwards for you, just because you think you’re entitled to have your vision followed, is unacceptable.
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> Tenkay - Why don’t you understand that the consumer is the person 343 is designed to build for? Halo is mine. If 343 wanted to “own it” than they have no business selling it? Do you know why the franchise is successful? Because people -Yoinking- buy it. I am a person. I like Splitscreen. Therefore, if 343 wants my money they must do what I want or find another line of work.
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> I don’t usually stoop this low, but every time I see comments like this, I think: you’d love it here.
in the grand scheme of the hundreds of millions of dollars that it costs to create a game of this size you as an individual mean much less than that. Your sense of entitlement is literally the worst thing about the internet, it’s the mentality that if something isn’t the way you want it it’s wrong and you can just throw a hissy fit to get what you want.
it’s cool to express what you want, but the way that you’re doing does nothing more than make you sound like a self entitled brat who has not appreciation for the things that you have.
Halo is a huge game, it belongs to everyone in the sense that we take ownership over the things we love. If you do indeed love it then respect the literally hundreds of millions of dollars to create it and countless hours of extremely intelligent people to design it.