Change the voice of players in game so kids don’t get insulted.
One glaring thing about Halo games to me is how much more fun I had playing LAN CTF games with my friends in Halo:CE than objective gametypes in all the subsequent Halo games. I do not find objective gametypes in Halo to be fun anymore because the games usually devolves into a slayer match. I find that the presence of a stat keeping system (kills, deaths, assists, k/d ratio) and its use as a measure of player skill in absence of a ranking system blurs the focus of these objective gametypes. Instead of making a coordinated assault with my teammates on an enemy position to capture the flag, I find myself hanging back with the sniper or Wraith trying to pad my stats. Reinforcing this effect is the lack of cooperation/teamwork in recent Halo games. This means that any attempt to win an objective gametype will be mostly uncoordinated and will lead to you, flag in hand, getting shot in the back as you leap off the enemy base with no escape vehicle in sight. Experienced players will quickly learn that trying to win and maintaining your stats are two mutually exclusive possibilities in this scenario. In Halo:CE, there were no stats to be concerned with, only a group of friends across the room plotting to take my flag. This led to more spirited, fun games when everyone’s goal was winning.
I see several solutions to this problem. One is to de-emphasize the stats during objective games by decoupling them from normal matchmaking stats where the goal is to kill people. Another solution is to incentivize winning by give large credit bonuses out to the winning team and/or the player who captures the flag. Yet another solution would be to change the game mechanics so that it is easier to play well (statistically) and complete the objective. An example of this that has been partially implemented is to make the flag bearer able to shoot a gun to defend himself. I feel that an examination of the motivations at play during an objective game will lead to a better experience for all.
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> What do you think. Plus better FX like Night and Fog… and by Night I mean really NIGHT where there is no SUN and only a MOON and STARS.
> Agree, and snow and rain/storm.
> I want a night level so bad that would make use of the night vision in the campaign.
> Since ODST came out, I have always thought how cool a night vision type map for multiplayer would be.
> Wetwork worked on COD4 and that games dark as hell.
> With how vibrant Halo is, I don’t see why this hasn’t been done yet.
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yeah, objective games aren’t played as objective. they’re used by k/d -Yoink!- stat boosters to well…stat boost and k/d -Yoink!-. they devolve into a half -Yoinked!- slayer with you as the sole teammate actually trying to get to the objective.
or worse, sometimes the other team takes and holds/hides the objective so they can continue to farm kills without having to worry about defending their goal or actually playing the game they chose.
not sure what 343 could do to keep people from being -yoinks- and ruining objectives tho, but fixing it so the cr system doesn’t encourage it would be a start.
ex:grifball, half the time they take the ball and hide in their goal while the other 3 spawncamp with gravity hammers and farm k/d without actually trying to score. hell, yesterday we managed to break a spawntrap because their guy tried to score in the last 5 minutes and his teammates let up on us to kill him and prevent the round from ending(we got the ball and scored to win the game so screw them but it killed the game to be trapped in the respawn screen and either quit and get penalized or sit there and feed the booster tards without being able to play or have any fun for 15 minutes straight.) it wasn’t about map control to make an objective grab safer, it was just to be a -Yoink- and artificially boost an arbatrary stat that is a very poor measure of skill in part because its so easily boosted.
or another time a teammate killed me to prevent planting the bomb and then killed the other reds trying to prevent the blues disarming it. all so he could keep the game going and kill more blues for cr because he aparently sucks so much he has to do that in neutral bomb and can’t slay effectively in slayer. (and he also killed for weapons so he could boost kills with the shot gun, ect.)
and of course of his like 14 betrayals(or the 3 on me anyway) the boot option never came up but the first and only time i betrayed anybody and killed him in self defense(when i was standing on enemy goal with the bomb) i get booted lol
and @tryhard spawncamper booster crfarmer k/d -Yoink!- fake hardcore epeen obsessed stat-tards don’t even say spawncamping has skill and its our fault for dieing. its griffball, you tend to die. its expected, so the “its your fault for allowing youself to die and you deserve to be unable to play the game” is ridiculous.
maybe spawncamping takes an iota of skill in slayer(but if you’re actually as good as you say you don’t need that crutch to get kills) but in objective that isn’t the point. you may sacrifice yourself to suicide nade an enemy base, or distract the flag guards if the situation calls for it. the objective is the objective and deaths are of consequence only in so far as it takes you out of the game for the respawn time and might even strategically be used to return to base if its faster than walking in a huge map.
maybe the tu could actually do something useful and fix it so you don’t get cr for each kill in non slayer games, or make the win cr and objective fufilling bonus(careful with that, don’t want cr farmers holding the bomb to earn bomb carrier cr or anything either, @343 don’t balance and test form mindset that you actually want to play, pretend you’re a -Yoink-) far outweigh the incentive to play slayer in ctf or assault or griffball to farm cr and make the objective k/d not count for your overall k/d score so boosting won’t help grow their epeen.
on a related note:
make it so if you teamkill somebody you are locked out of picking up the weapons they drop. that would stop the powerweapon whores who teamkill to take them because they are the only ones pro enough to be allowed to touch them and everybody else would somehow manage to suck with the rockets.(the teamkller of course always sucks more than anybody else and could only get a kill either on an unsuspecting teammate or with powerweapons)
customisable/forgeable firefight maps would rule in halo 4. i’ve currently got my own personal gametype in reach that if i could add a kill zone and spawn point would make for a pretty cool game i think.
i have a suggestion. will you please make a dialogue/profanity Option in halo reach and halo 4 so you can turn the voice of soldiers/AI off or on. it would help a lot.
I think it would sell better if it had it.
please read this 343.
If you’re holding ANY weapon and you are betrayed by your teammate, you should spawn with that weapon and it should still count as “On the map” so the weapon doesn’t respawn. Betraying should also not stop sprees or count as deaths. More than Half the time, betrayals are on purpose and not an accident from my personal experience.
Bungie disabled Betraying in FF because people cried that they were getting team killed, thus ruining Perfection runs. This is also the same in MM. So why listen to one and not the other? Because it’s FF? It’s still Matchmaking!
Maybe have it set so if you have a lot of penalties in a day you are unable to pick up weapons both power and non. Suicides should not count toward these penalties. It’s embarrassing enough I have a -1 to my score because I didn’t throw that grenade enough to the left so it bounced back and hit me in the face. lol
I think if you want to make this game better, fix the issues people are abusing to purposely make people rage(AL and Bloom are opinions, I mean spawn trapping and really crap spawn spots). These same people go into the forum and give the developers a big middle finger because they feel their voice isn’t being heard. This will benefit everyone. Not just those who complain, but those who aren’t a part of the online community and those “casuals” who just want to play and have fun. I am competitive but I’m also here for the fun of the game. Not to feed someone’s K/D Mongering and using bugs to cause such(holding the flag/bomb etc).
As I said in a previous post plus another idea: Lag outs need not count as quitting. Turning off your xbox, or pulling the plug should. There is no “adapt” to lagging out of FF games. Telling me to get a “better connection” isn’t either. Comcast and AT&T are known for throttling/bottle-necking bandwidth despite swearing up and down they don’t.
In ODST trying to get the Endure achievement was horrible! Even when I had friends over and we system linked 4 consoles, there was still horrible Lag even though we are on the exact same connection. You’d think beta testers would have reported this and devs would have fixed this problem in future games, buttttt It does not feel that way. At this point, it’s no longer the ISP, It’s the game itself. Too much on the screen at once causes all 4 consoles to lag at the exact same time? I don’t want to believe the rumor of bungie having a lag switch… its the same for any of the 4player Achievements. But only when it’s Heroic or harder… on normal, with 4 people we Never lag even in Lan games.
> i have a suggestion. will you please make a dialogue/profanity Option in halo reach and halo 4 so you can turn the voice of soldiers/AI off or on. it would help a lot.
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we get it lol, you’ve posted that like 8 times on this page alone rofl.
> customisable/forgeable firefight maps would rule in halo 4. i’ve currently got my own personal gametype in reach that if i could add a kill zone and spawn point would make for a pretty cool game i think.
yeah, let us forge ff maps.
forgot i wanted that til you mentioned it lol
> If you’re holding ANY weapon and you are betrayed by your teammate, you should spawn with that weapon and it should still count as “On the map” so the weapon doesn’t respawn. Betraying should also not stop sprees or count as deaths. More than Half the time, betrayals are on purpose and not an accident from my personal experience.
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> Bungie disabled Betraying in FF because people cried that they were getting team killed, thus ruining Perfection runs. This is also the same in MM. So why listen to one and not the other? Because it’s FF? It’s still Matchmaking!
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> Maybe have it set so if you have a lot of penalties in a day you are unable to pick up weapons both power and non. Suicides should not count toward these penalties. It’s embarrassing enough I have a -1 to my score because I didn’t throw that grenade enough to the left so it bounced back and hit me in the face. lol
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> I think if you want to make this game better, fix the issues people are abusing to purposely make people rage(AL and Bloom are opinions, I mean spawn trapping and really crap spawn spots). These same people go into the forum and give the developers a big middle finger because they feel their voice isn’t being heard. This will benefit everyone. Not just those who complain, but those who aren’t a part of the online community and those “casuals” who just want to play and have fun. I am competitive but I’m also here for the fun of the game. Not to feed someone’s K/D Mongering and using bugs to cause such(holding the flag/bomb etc).
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> As I said in a previous post plus another idea: Lag outs need not count as quitting. Turning off your xbox, or pulling the plug should. There is no “adapt” to lagging out of FF games. Telling me to get a “better connection” isn’t either. Comcast and AT&T are known for throttling/bottle-necking bandwidth despite swearing up and down they don’t.
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only problem i see with that is the bit about betrayals not counting in your k/d or hurting streaks. would be abused to deny foes a point/kill at no penalty, protect from a legit foe kill by betraying to preserve a spree, boost k/d by betraying at low hp to avoid the d ect.
but other than that(which is fixable)
Dear 343, I am proud 2 say that you saved the Halo franchise. Removing bloom is the greatest thing you ever did. Everybody in the world is happy and their proud of you. I am soo happy right now cries in tears of joy. 343 you guys are the best game developers ever. Also the MLG community thanks you. As you can see here http://forums.majorleaguegaming.com/topic/242791-confirmed-elements-in-halo-reach-title-update/ . And If you read all the pages we are giving positive feedback and were happy. We are extremely happy and to show our apprecation we made posters of Frankie o Conner as the savior of Halo. Frankie you are the man if you were here right now I would give you a hug. And now with the removal of bloom I can now rest knowing that Halo is back on track. I cant wait for the title update. And to show our appreciation somebody made a poster of Frankie. And as you can see on the 2nd page theres a member named "Rest in Pieces with a picture representing Frankie o Conner’s greatness for removing bloom. http://forums.majorleaguegaming.com/topic/242893-to-bloom-or-not-to-bloom/page__st__20 We made several more posters but I just cant find them. 343 you are the best and the MLG community loves you. God Bless Frankie o Conner.
> Dear 343, I am proud 2 say that you saved the Halo franchise. Removing bloom is the greatest thing you ever did. Everybody in the world is happy and their proud of you. I am soo happy right now cries in tears of joy. 343 you guys are the best game developers ever. Also the MLG community thanks you. As you can see here http://forums.majorleaguegaming.com/topic/242791-confirmed-elements-in-halo-reach-title-update/ . And If you read all the pages we are giving positive feedback and were happy. We are extremely happy and to show our apprecation we made posters of Frankie o Conner as the savior of Halo. Frankie you are the man if you were here right now I would give you a hug. And now with the removal of bloom I can now rest knowing that Halo is back on track. I cant wait for the title update. And to show our appreciation somebody made a poster of Frankie. And as you can see on the 2nd page theres a member named "Rest in Pieces with a picture representing Frankie o Conner’s greatness for removing bloom. http://forums.majorleaguegaming.com/topic/242893-to-bloom-or-not-to-bloom/page__st__20 We made several more posters but I just cant find them. 343 you are the best and the MLG community loves you. God Bless Frankie o Conner.
No kidding, can we get this man a trophy? Maybe a crown or something? Frankie is like a super hero to me.
Where is Halo 2 Vista in Halo Waypoint?
Halo 2 Vista was released back 2007 before Halo 3, it was the first Halo game to include achievements. Now why is it not being tracked in Halo Waypoint? It is Halo and features achievements so I do not see anything wrong with it, if anything it adds more to Halo Waypoint . Tracking Halo 2 Vista achievements would add 1000 more gamerscore and higher levels to achieve and possibly grant special rewards for acquiring such levels.
With Halo 4 coming in just next year, Halo 2 Vista offers another opportunity to reward players for playing through the Halo saga. Halo 2 is a core game to the series and has to be included into waypoint with Halo CEA. Seems a bit odd to scan every Halo game except for Halo 2, which made and defined the Halo series as the online FPS it is.
Halo 2 set thee standard for online gaming for the xbox, but sadly it was shutdown with the rest of original xbox live. Halo 2 Vista may have not been as ground breaking as the xbox version, but is still Halo 2 and continues to support online for it and deserves some recognition from 343i. It would be a nice token to many members of the community to be rewarded for taking their devotion of Halo to the PC and might inspire others to play and experience the thrill of Halo 2 online who showed up a little late.
Please re-enable this in the Title Update: the rank progression percentage in the rankbar. It was there in the beta, I have NO idea why Bungie removed this.
Please fix the Data Pad glitches in Reach. So far I have encountered one that causes some weapons (AR, Plasma Repeater and possibly others) to fire continuously until out of ammo while the data pad is open, one that causes you to activate your AA if you scroll back through the pages, one that makes you throw a grenade when you scroll back and one that causes the Data Pad audio to continue playing when you go back to normal gameplay (though I think this one may only happen if you get a checkpoint when you have the Data Pad open).
Well, with Combat Evolved I pretty much want something to feel as close as an entirely new game as possible.
So, even though I may fight for things like Bloom and Armour Lock, if there not in the TU (For the specific playlists) then I’ll be cheering, because then I get a new game without having to relearn everything!
Oh, but the most important thing is, make the new maps very forge friendly! It’s so depressing being cut back to the one map. But you know, whatever.
Oh, and just a little thing:
Do not get rid of the Nightfall Forklift glitch. I freaking love that thing to death!
that is true and ik wat u mean. i was just hoping for some changes. halo 3 was amazing but i stopped playing halo for a while and finally starting playing again like a month ago and it seemes like halo reach is just designed for the extreme nubs. they need to turn it back to the realistic gameplay like halo 3 had. keep in mind that ik halo isnt realistic but u should know wat i mean. and im sick of people just crazily eating shots in reach, definitely another thing they need to fix. my gt is PACman1613 if u or anybody ever wants to hit me up sometime.
First and foremost I want to express my love for Halo in general. I didn’t use to like first person shooters at all, in fact I hated them. they reminded me of countless computer games which I was never able to enjoy. I bought an Xbox at launch. I bought it to play sports game and adventure games. When I first played Halo(a friend bought it) something just clicked. it didn’t feel like a PC game…it felt like an extension of myself. I was good and my friends hated it because I never played first person shooters prior to halo(except Goldeneye we all played Goldeneye right?). Quickly I became enthralled with the story and the characters and I felt this connection to a game I had never felt before. Not only was Halo Fun it brought my friends and I together every Wed night for LAN Parties. That game brought us closer, and sometimes further apart;), then any activity I have ever done and probably ever will do in my lifetime. Those nights where we would take the time to disconnect everything at home and each lug our tube(heavy as sin) TV’s to each others houses were the best times of my life. we had multiple tvs in my friends basement, teams seperated by a pin pong table standing in the middle of the room, so we couldn’t screen watch but still scream and taunt each other as we did any number of thing score a flag, assassinate someone etc.
When Halo 2 came out xbox live morphed halo into another beast. We no longer had to go to each others houses we could play from the comfort of our own homes. I loved Playing Halo 2 online for the sheer fact that if I had to work in the morning I didn’t have to drive my butt across town, with my TV, carry said TV down a flight of stairs and back up again when we were done. I could play a couple matches and head to bed. I played over 5,000 matches of Halo 2 online. I loved it. The online was killer for me but only a select few of our LAN group stayed true to halo because without our weekly dedicated LAN session it just fell apart alittle. not only that but ever since halo went live I have never felt that same passion for Halo. Don’t get me wrong I made friends playing halo two from all over the world. I use to play with a group of canadians that I absolutely looked forward to each night.
Skip past a couple games and the online community is soooo rude to each other I play with everyone muted and I miss out on meeting new friends, like my wonderful group of Canadians I use to play with. I just can’t stand when someone is blasting music through their headphones, a baby is constantly screaming, or little kids are telling me to suck their d***s. I have been playing halo possibly before they were born and they are calling me a noob, even when I am playing better then they are and the online is now in such a sad state. so for the last year or two I have only played with friends that I actually know, in a party chat and have probably missed out on countless new relationships because of how poorly other people act on a constant basis.
when Halo Anniversary was announced my friends that I use to play LAN called me, my current friends and I rejoiced and most of all I was just happy to be able to replay everything as it was but in high defintion! to be able to relive what could be related to my childhood like Peter Pan…noone gets the chance to do that. But we were going to, we were going to get the ultimate fan service from 343. I was so damn excited but then I started reading little bits and pieces about HCEA and my smile and tears of joy started becoming frustrations and tears of sadness. you have ruined my childhood by taking what it was and cheapening the experience. a budget title really??? really? when I heard those words mentioned with a Halo Remake it made me sick. fan service isn’t stripping what made the original halo great (the multiplayer) to six maps(with six alternates of those same maps) so people who play reach can be pleased.
Halo would not be around today if the multiplayer in Halo 1 wasn’t so enjoyable. I love the single player campaign(beat legendary in everygame) but for me and my friends we were looking forward to playing all 13 original xbox maps in glorious HD(no alterations needed, thank you) and you decided to take that opportunity from us. not only that but I don’t even have a choice to play those maps LAN like we use to be able to I am forced to play them through the Reach online. Wow thanks so much for adding co op campaign over xbox live though…I really was hoping to play through that once and never play through it again…such a needed feature. The feature we needed was the original game COMPLETELY remade the way it was so the true fans who made YOUR JOBS (343) available for you to have currently were rewarded. the way I see it you are rewarding those kids that are screaming noob with new maps for reach and you have lost touch with your true fans, the people who put you on the map. I am buying it, you have my money already, completely pre paid, I wish I could say I would veto this game but I love Halo and I will take what I can get it just seems Halo doesn’t love me anymore and the way I see it its because 343 isn’t Bungie. Frankie of all the people out there to understand this I thought having you on board you wouldn’t make this mistake and it is a mistake, a HUGE mistake. I understand you have Halo 4 coming out next year and you don’t want to split the online community but get real you owe it to us to remake this game COMPLETELY, crappy multiplayer maps and all.
bs angel or Frankie if you could respond to this in a non microsoft generic answer I would greatly appreciate it. I just feel like this game is being rushed just like Halo 2 to meet a deadline and that isn’t fair to us. Please please please remake it the right way.