THE OFFICIAL HALO FEEDBACK THREAD

Community General Discussion
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To bs Angel and the rest of 343i

http://halo.xbox.com/forums/games/f/7/t/8413.aspx

I present to you a vision, one which comes with the sole purpose of aiming to improve Halo’s multiplayer experience for everyone via the proven system of Custom Game Browsing. My first post outlines and details the benefits of such a system, but my next post is to outline and detail something much more important, the collective response of the community.

> Conor 419 - “Flexibility at it’s maximum, Halo 4 needs this”
> A SILENT EMU - “Yes yes yes yes and yes”
> o0MrCheesy0o - “A welcomed feature in Halo 4”
> Shforteen14 - “I want to print this out and staple it to every employee in 343 industries’ face.”
> iKombo -"Everyone wants this feature. Everyone since the first Halo did it correctly on the PC, its time for the Xbox to join 2012."sisco ascendant - “FINALY SOMEONE ELSE AGREES WITH LOGIC AND COMMON SENSE!”
> Chunky M0nk3y4 - “This should be implented into Halo 4 and it would add a new and very familar feeling back to Halo that dates back 10 years ago.”
> Dr Syx - “A server list would be amazing, it’s one major thing that I’ve always missed when playing on xbox live”
> || SHABUTIE || - “Awesome”
> Nova Spartan X - “This is needed”
> xXFatal v1 - “This definitely needs to be added”
> Vo ArchAngel oV - “The community has only been asking for it since Halo 2”
> Alzarahn - “Supporting customs is imperative to keeping this game alive”
> Prince Brunie - “I FULLY AGREE WITH THIS!”
> Sean Fury - “We need it”
> ah90 - “The capablities of custom games and forge only makes it more desirable”
> speedy bros - “Make this work!”
> who frankwahl - “/signed”
> Haywood92 - “Get into games faster”, “Flexible Multiplayer”, “Get the gametype and map that YOU want”, “[gives] outnumbered players a sigh of relief”
> OniLink147 - "Everyone wants this"Nicholas Cage - "I like the sound of custom games"Evil Lemon125 “Yes please, this would make customs far better on Halo”
> Tigertron007 - “A server list for custom games would be an excellent addition”
> aHamburgerNinja - “It would be a great feature for Halo 4 and would certainly put the Halo franchise ahead of all the other shooters”
> xDMRxCLUTCHx - “YES!!!”
> Atomic Eclipse - “Having a way to join custom/social games with anyone and not just invite only rooms would be huge”
> LH Justin - “You are a Microsoft company, one that heads their largest gaming franchise at that. Microsoft would gladly give you the money for enough dedicated servers to support Halo 4.”
> xXFatal V1 - "This would also solve the quitter ‘problem’
> jason86586 - “Would make the multiplayer a much greater experience”
> Killrraider13 - "And with dedicated servers maybe we can finally play griffball instead of just hostball"Sacred Jefe - “It’s time we have the ability to search for custom games because not everyone can have friends online 24/7. I think a custom game finder would make Halo 4 the ultimate Halo game.”
> The Papasmurf - “YES full support, been wanting this since not having clans from Halo 2”
> Blaze 117 - “Pretty good idea”
> King Leonighdus - “Gosh, I hope 343i shares their thoughts about this system sooner or later. I’d like to hear what they have to say. I mean… it can only do them good.”
> ZackBlink - "Forget about Halo 4, we need this in Halo: CEA!
> johnspartan117 - “Great Idea. I support”
> Latsu15 - “Halo 4 NEEDS Customizable organization”
> Eyeless Sid - “I’d like a dedicated server list you could browse through”
> Admiral Xytan - “Dedicated servers with the intent to support custom games, custom maps, and player communities (alongside Matchmaking) is seriously needed on consoles and Halo is the perfect candidate to really introduce that”
> Last Rogue - "I support a custom game search function"Unikraken - "We need this so badly"Isisco - “Got to cater to as much as the community as possible”
> NAStheMagiking - “This is something fans have been asking for, for a long time now. I think it would be a great addition to Halo 4’s feature set. I’m completely behind this, and hope that 343 listens to this collective voice.”
> DJ Gnozis - “Have been wanting this since Halo 2. Make it happen 343.”
> MibZ x - "I would absolutely love this"One Man System - “I’d like to see this ;)”
> TUNG x CaLiBeR - “Yes i agree with everything, also that we need more thing’s to do in forge and game options so we can make the best custom game experience ever.”
> Lehanaru - “And you’ll never be bored when none of your friends are online!”
> MachinimistLuke -“Signed”

We as a community have been thrashing out the idea of having a Custom Game Browser in Halo for many weeks now. As you know the Halo community has some passionate members and thus, the thread has been a heavyweight affair. Despite our contrasting views on things like how ranking would work with such a system, there is one thing we’re all united on. 343i - We’d like a Custom Game Browser and we’d like it to be good, and if you guys are feeling really generous, then we’d love dedicated servers to accompany them.

We wholly believe that the flexibility of Custom Game Browsing is the perfect complement to the creative, competitive and fun loving Halo community and we absolutely know it’ll drive the series forward.

Thanks for reading, we’d love to hear from you on this matter

Love, The Custom Game Browsing Thread.

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> inomzu * - "Adding a custom game browser is a must. A huge part of the Halo multiplayer experience the customization, and without an easy way to host and join games in this internet-focused era too much of it is lost.
>
> Limited Luck - "This is absolute critical that it’s added, I love the idea!"siggibiggy - “Why didn’t they have this in Halo 3 or Reach? Bring it on the wagon to Halo 4”
> Wh0 N0se - "PLEASE 343i’
> TwicKzY - “I LIKE IT, make it like Halo CE PC”
> x Unholyshade x - “This is a complete shame really, as I do notice a lot of people have made amazing creations, but they hardly ever get to show their map off.”
> Humble Calamity - “this is a fantastic idea and would really be one of those ‘golden edition’ highlight features that could define Halo 4 and REDEFINE modern matchmaking (a long tradition of Halo).”
> Grort - “signed p.s don’t you just nostalge at the good old 16 player zombie games in h3, if that returned in h4 because of this i would be so teh happy :)”
> Draiko34 - “This has been wanted for a while. I support it.”
> Paratic - "I support this’
> Holoe4 - “That would be friggen’ sweet”
> Mcode3996 - “Agreed”
> cMARVEL360 - “I think Custom Game browsing is something that needs to be added to Halo 4 BIG TIME!”
> Bengt Tacoskal - "Ye, it’s about time they add this to a halo title’
> MrGreenWithAGun - "I would love to go a match making model where you can choose the maps and game types you want to play and only those are presented to you’
> Cinderblock230 - "Please do this!!!’
> Rsvi Etzudee - "YESYESYESYESJIZZYESYESYES’
> LEGEND ST - "I agree fully that Custom Games, if set as allowed by the Party leader, should have a lobby to search and join games’
> Mystical Gaming - "I wish something like this would really happen’
> Mike MA DMD - "If custom game browsing was added halo 4 could cater both to casuals and the hardcore simultaneously, this needs to be added for halo to recapture the #1 spot.’
> Jake x28 - "This would make Halo 4 something special! With Custom MM, Halo 4 would be put firmly on the Halo map!’
> FRI Specter - "Yes, this is a great idea. Customs are some of the most fun you can have in Halo and having a browser could only improve it.’
> Red Rippin - “I support”
> Hortons - "Make the best custom games browser for any console game to date! This would make the games replayability go through the ROOF!’
> eXalti0n - “Yes! I’d love 343 if they include this!”
> Assault Chompy7 - “Custom Game Browsing (CGB) is pretty sociable in other video games (like Team Fortress 2 and Halo 1 on PC), so I don’t see a problem why Halo 4 should have a Custom Game Browsing”
> ZACK GSF - "Fully behind this. My one regret with Reach is that hardly any of my friends still play so custom games are basically useless.’
> HWM Deaf Smith - “Would help a ton.”
> Tunavi - "This has GOT to be in Halo 4. It would be so great for the community. Just people having fun playing Halo non-competitively? Sign me up!
> The Papasmurf - ‘I have been begging for this since no more clans after Halo 2!’
> Guardian Hope - “This is a wonderul idea”
> IX AeR0SpAc3 XI - "Yes. That is why i play Custom Edition online more than any Halo.’
> GenerateX3 - ‘Like MGS4? Definatly.’
> shadows Walking - ‘I wanted this ever since I made my amazing maps in Reach and couldn’t get enough people to fully test them. Reach Custom Games was a flop in my opinion, and implementing a Custom Game Browser would be -Yoink!- worthy.’
> nickEfingers - "yes this needs to happen whats the point of custom games and forge if u really cant enjoy/play with other people’Wonsonlue - “/Supported”

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Can we get an option in Halo 4 to change our HUD so we can add things to it and move its components around on the screen?

I would love to see an option to show how many people are alive on both teams, how much health teammate’s have, customizable timers, and any other things that you could think of to make as optional additions. You could do things like grenade trajectory predictions, show the players speed, maybe an option to see stray weapons through objects. I think it would be a fantastic addition to an already excellent franchise. Thank you for your time!!

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On the topic of HUD, I have one request. Halo 3: ODST and Reach often placed the camera in first person before the gameplay started, to prepare the player. Now, ODST did this correctly; when we were taken to first person, the HUD was there, in the cutscene. In Reach, however, it wasn’t, which irked me a little because it doesn’t make sense that it would randomly disappear. It should’ve been there all the time.

If you plan to use similar angles for Halo 4, please make sure, when we look from the Chief’s perspective, the HUD is present.

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Readd VIP. That was amazing.
Custom Matchmaking could be done.
Add a despawn timer to forge.
Make ammo crates for forge.
Assuming that you will have firefight in Halo 4, add all of the species we have encountered in Halo thus far. It was a bad idea for Bungie not to have Drones in Reach.

566

> In all seriousness, a few random musings…
>
> -I’d love a “Rogue Squadron”-style Halo game, piloting Longswords, Shortswords, ONI craft, Hornets, Hawks, Falcons, Sabres, new stuff… whatever. LOVE. SPACE. COMBAT.
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> -On that note… Sabrefight. Just what it sounds like. DLC Firefight, but in a Sabre, fighting off wave after wave of Space Banshee, Phantom Gunboat, Seraph, Corvette, whatever.
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> -I LOVE armor permutations, tons of them. (Total Sellout, I’m still waiting on that Cape Armor Effect :wink: They don’t need to DO anything, either; I don’t want to be almost forced to have to change the look of my Spartan just because I want to stand a chance in a fight. But yeah, love the new armor, especially helmets and helmet attachments.
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> -Slightly related, the FICTION. Keep including it in everything; it really helps to build a more vast, believable universe, and to be honest, one that is even more enticing to spend time in. I adored the video you did talking a little bit about the fictional relevance behind the different MJOLNIR variations. LOVED IT. It’s the kind of stuff I long for on Waypoint.
>
> -Speaking of Waypoint, how about a disc-based collection of a lot of the Waypoint content? The Motion Comics, the Fiction Videos, the Ordnance Pieces, etc. Not to mention, I’m a game-case enthusiast (to put it mildly), and would love something else to add to the Halo shelf.
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> -MORE POST WAR INFO. I am so excited about seeing where the Halo Franchise goes fictionally from this point “forward”. Perhaps we’ll even see a new threat/species brought into the fray? Can’t wait, just keep it coming.
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> -Keep listening. It’s one of the things that Bungie did best, and it’s certainly something that you (343) are on the right track with already. We love you guys, and your continued approachability and genuine respect for both the franchise and its fanbase will cover a multitude of little bumps and bruises along the way…
>
> That’s all for now. Much love 343, and you too WP community. :wink:
>
> <3 Grim

Ooooooohhhhhhh… a Sabrefight…
THAT would be awsome.

Plus, I have a few ideas for a new species or two that could make it into the Halo franchise…
And I personally miss the levels in Halo where as you can play as an Elite, so can we try again or…what?

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For starters, I really love Halo and I think the best thing you can do is both listen AND ignore the community. Sometimes they get it right but most of the time they don’t seem to know what they truely want. Me? Just do whatever you do, and more than likely I’ll enjoy it.

Follow in the footsteps of CE, 2, 3, AND Reach, while also trying to expand the universe at the same time.

Lastly, don’t EVER be afraid to try do something new.

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[Certainly not, and yes, we will have different stuff in different playlists.

I will say this once for the record and once only. The TU is not designed to ‘fix’ or improve the game. The game as it stands is one of the best FPS games ever made. We are not arrogant or stupid enough to think it needs ‘fixing.’ The TU will add interesting and fun functionality that folks like you have requested. We will not harm or remove any of the core existing functionality of Reach because it is pretty -Yoink!- amazing. We will however make it possible to play it differently in certain playlists. In ways big and small. And there will be sprinkles.](http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=29346185&postcount=687)

After reading this I have become very disappointed. I have been a diehard hardcore Halo fan since day 1. But Does Frankie honestly think Reach is amazing? Reach is horrible and needs fixing such as Removing Bloom and removing AAs from most playlists then Reach will be fun to play. Please 343 Im not the only 1 who thinks this. Please 343 remove bloom from multiplayer and Remove AAs from most playlists and Reach will be fun to play because currently its not. Im not meaning to be harsh either and Im sorry if I offended anyone. But I am trying my best to make Halo Reach better and Halo 4 the best game ever. And for a future reference please No AAs and Bloom for Halo 4. Thank You. EDIT- http://forums.majorleaguegaming.com/topic/236823-sad-news-for-the-title-update/ Even my friends over at MLG arent happy with the news if you look at all the replies on all the pages. Please 343 take my advice into consideration.

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> Certainly not, and yes, we will have different stuff in different playlists.
>
> I will say this once for the record and once only. The TU is not designed to ‘fix’ or improve the game. The game as it stands is one of the best FPS games ever made. We are not arrogant or stupid enough to think it needs ‘fixing.’ The TU will add interesting and fun functionality that folks like you have requested. We will not harm or remove any of the core existing functionality of Reach because it is pretty damned amazing. We will however make it possible to play it differently in certain playlists. In ways big and small. And there will be sprinkles.
>
> After reading this I have become very disappointed. I have been a diehard hardcore Halo fan since day 1. But Does Frankie honestly think Reach is amazing? Reach is horrible and needs fixing such as Removing Bloom and removing AAs from most playlists then Reach will be fun to play. Please 343 Im not the only 1 who thinks this. Please 343 remove bloom from multiplayer and Remove AAs from most playlists and Reach will be fun to play because currently its not. Im not meaning to be harsh either and Im sorry if I offended anyone. But I am trying my best to make Halo Reach better and Halo 4 the best game ever. And for a future reference please No AAs and Bloom for Halo 4. Thank You. EDIT- http://forums.majorleaguegaming.com/topic/236823-sad-news-for-the-title-update/ Even my friends over at MLG arent happy with the news if you look at all the replies on all the pages. Please 343 take my advice into consideration.

This is kinda what I’m talking about. While this was a poor move on you’re guys part you CAN NOT listen to posts like these as they are. It’s perfect proof that the community has too biased feelings towards gameplay aspects. Think and test the complaints FIRST to see if there’s any merit to them before removing or adding anything.

And before I get people overreacting to this, understand that I’m not trying to divide the community instead of catering to the “casual.” The best way to get results is to go by it logically, and I rarely see that on the forums.

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I have no doubt that 343 can continue moving forward and expanding Halo. I do have concerns with the little errors that bug the fans that follow everything Halo. For example for me the armor in the Halo Legends The Package, Or the armor on cover art of the re release of The Flood and First Strike. It’s the little things that most casual fan don’t notice but bug the hell out of big fans of the fiction. There should be someone in control of the visuals of all Halo release that knows the fiction up and down to stamp the approval on anything going forward. I mean books art, comics, games, trailers, figures ext. Anything that adds to the cannon of Halo should be accurate. I didn’t buy the re release of the novels just because the only one that had cover art that fit the cannon was the Fall of Reach. So I decided to just kept old ones and forget about them.

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I would like to see a firefight voice pack for Reach. Nothing new just all the ones from Odst and different soundbites from Marines and soldiers from past games. So many good voice actors and dialog that could be used from all the Halo games in firefight.

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I don’t want many changes to Reach I would like to see credits to be a little higher because I have spent over 26 days in play time and just reached Eclipse so it is very hard to rise up in matchmaking without the game encouraging you to credit farm right now. It would be better if we got more of the players into matchmaking and rising the credits would most likely work to do that.

And I would like you to leave armor lock in the game I don’t use it much but it is not a game breaker like most people think it is and it helps bring balance the game.

Thank you.

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Agreed

> I don’t want many changes to Reach I would like to see credits to be a little higher because I have spent over 26 days in play time and just reached Eclipse so it is very hard to rise up in matchmaking without the game encouraging you to credit farm right now. It would be better if we got more of the players into matchmaking and rising the credits would most likely work to do that.
>
> And I would like you to leave armor lock in the game I don’t use it much but it is not a game breaker like most people think it is and it helps bring balance the game.
>
> Thank you.

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How about creating a descent iOS or Android app? And if Microsoft says no, how about a nice HTML 5 page for mobile devices? :slight_smile:

And say no to the AFK’ers, and yes to Armor Lock! AL can be a -Yoink- when used against you, but there is always a way to deal with it (I prefer Sprint btw).

One final thing: keep the assassination animations :smiley: just because it looks awesome and makes me do sounds like Wham bam slice ^^

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One thing i would like to add:

Halo 3 had Brilliant interaction with the environment. A good example of this is when you trod in sand or snow, the grains of sand or snow flakes moved around your feet.
Though reach had a far superior engine, they seemed to of left this out.

So what im getting at is if the engine could once again interact with the environment realistically once more.

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And up the water graphics back up as well.

> One thing i would like to add:
>
> Halo 3 had Brilliant interaction with the environment. A good example of this is when you trod in sand or snow, the grains of sand or snow flakes moved around your feet.
> Though reach had a far superior engine, they seemed to of left this out.
>
> So what im getting at is if the engine could once again interact with the environment realistically once more.

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ok so on the level where the opening has the convoy of warthogs peli cans mongooses… and the opposition banshees ghosts re venants … this should not be a cutscene for single player you should be the driver of one of the hogs 2 player one drives one shoots three player one drives one shoots and one passenger with a rocket launcher (or shotgun ? I find it to be a very usefull passenger weapon) 4 player two hogs with a driver /gunner or a pelican with pilot two gunners and passenger

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The only thing that bothers me in Anniversary is the Halo ring in the CEA trailer it’s just not the same ring i grew up loving, so if it’s not a big deal could it be done to where it looks the same at the end of Halo Reach with no metal fins sticking out of the ring and no purple galaxy? I’m sure it’ll make alot of the original Halo 1 fans very happy

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Please make the forums more like Bungie.net as far as how they are seperated. Make forums for the individual games instead of “campaign” “MP” ect. Make a Halo 4 forum, and anniversary forum, and so on. Thanks! And best of luck!

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> I would like to see a firefight voice pack for Reach. Nothing new just all the ones from Odst and different soundbites from Marines and soldiers from past games. So many good voice actors and dialog that could be used from all the Halo games in firefight.

Agreed. Firefight is getting a bit stale and needs to be refreshed.

And if you guys can find a way to bring in some of the voices from RedVs.Blue this would be greatly appreciated.