I’m really getting sick and tired of these petty bans. All of my recent “DNF” games have been because of either A) Horrible servers or B) Occasional poor WiFi. Nothing on my end has been deliberate. PS4 NEVER has these kind of problems, it’s hard for me to defend Xbox when they turn around and do things like automated ban systems.
Please take my complaint into consideration and reform this system, along with the servers.
I have received a temporary ban on four different occasions in the past two weeks. When i attempt to rejoin matchmaking, a message is displayed informing me that I was banned due to “leaving too many matches.” This left me confused because I have done no such thing seeing as how leaving a match would decrease my league rank, and I am the only one who uses this console. I thought it may have been a connectivity issue, so I tried restarting the xbox along with my router and yet, a ban continues to get placed on my account every 3-4 days. I’m not participating in any unsportsmanlike conduct (don’t have a mic), I’m not cheating (only in Gold 3), I’m definitely not leaving any games early, and I am not violating any terms and conditions agreed upon by myself and Microsoft/343 industries. Therefore, I have been banned either in error or without grounds and that is in violation of the agreement (contract) that I signed and I have legal leg to stand on. Conveniently, 343 industries provides no outlet for communication to dispute this erroneous “ban,” but don’t worry, I’m single with nothing but time and money.
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> I have received a temporary ban on four different occasions in the past two weeks. When i attempt to rejoin matchmaking, a message is displayed informing me that I was banned due to “leaving too many matches.” This left me confused because I have done no such thing seeing as how leaving a match would decrease my league rank, and I am the only one who uses this console. I thought it may have been a connectivity issue, so I tried restarting the xbox along with my router and yet, a ban continues to get placed on my account every 3-4 days. I’m not participating in any unsportsmanlike conduct (don’t have a mic), I’m not cheating (only in Gold 3), I’m definitely not leaving any games early, and I am not violating any terms and conditions agreed upon by myself and Microsoft/343 industries. Therefore, I have been banned either in error or without grounds and that is in violation of the agreement (contract) that I signed and I have legal leg to stand on. Conveniently, 343 industries provides no outlet for communication to dispute this erroneous “ban,” but don’t worry, I’m single with nothing but time and money.
8 DNF in the past two weeks say differently. That’s grounds for a ban
Hey I was just banned for getting DC’d from the server(twice in one day), I’ve probably only left 1 game in past month for other reasons. Is this a valid ban?
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> Hey I was just banned for getting DC’d from the server(twice in one day), I’ve probably only left 1 game in past month for other reasons. Is this a valid ban?
Yes. The banhammer (far as I know) cannot differentiate between types of disconnects. Therefore, it treats all disconnects during a game as DNFs, which builds up your ban profile. If you are experiencing frequent DCs, consider troubleshooting your connection (wired vs wireless, port forwarding, network traffic, packet loss, etc.)
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> Yes. The banhammer (far as I know) cannot differentiate between types of disconnects. Therefore, it treats all disconnects during a game as DNFs, which builds up your ban profile. If you are experiencing frequent DCs, consider troubleshooting your connection (wired vs wireless, port forwarding, network traffic, packet loss, etc.)
It was twice in one day but if you look at my service record I never leave matches - I’m 90% sure its not on my end as every other game I’m playing is fine.
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> > Yes. The banhammer (far as I know) cannot differentiate between types of disconnects. Therefore, it treats all disconnects during a game as DNFs, which builds up your ban profile. If you are experiencing frequent DCs, consider troubleshooting your connection (wired vs wireless, port forwarding, network traffic, packet loss, etc.)
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> It was twice in one day but if you look at my service record I never leave matches - I’m 90% sure its not on my end as every other game I’m playing is fine.
Connection issues can happen on the player’s end, 343i’s end, or somewhere in transit. If it was 343i’s end, it would cause mass outages; lots of players would experience disconnects. Your disconnects were therefore likely because of a problem on your end or during communication with 343i’s servers. Could be a myriad of reasons why. As for your particular case, ban profiles are also built up by idling and betraying and suicides; all this is stated in the description of each playlist. I don’t know how you play, just telling you what contributes to a ban.
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> > Just got DCd from a match (not xbox LIVE) due to server disconnect, and it was marked as a DNF - just wanted to post that, for somebody special, who, referred to an update fixing that. 
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> so a smart person would then come to the conclusion warzone DC are separate the arena ones… since i still have yet to receive a DNF in arena, and ive notcied more ppl are talking about that.
> also your little GF still was not banned for the dumb game you keep trying to bring up she was banned for the game before that she quit. and she did not receive a DNF for the game she finished first either. in case you missed it someone else pointed that out as well.
FINALLY you admit they are separate - THANK YOU. My god your arguments change so much - THANK YOU for proving that. Don’t believe me? Refer to your other posts on this topic regrading this point, in which you tried to tell me they account for the same thing (after the “update” too) - they’re either separate or together, and you just said they’re separate.
I literally have nothing to try to prove to you (no matter what terrible excuse you have, or insult {such as “ignorance” which is hypocritical}) anymore after that; thank you.
I’ve been banned because I have apparently been quitting too many games. However, all these incidents are unintentional; it is due to a very unstable internet connection that cannot be fixed in my house. Is there any way I can get 343 to lift the ban? I really enjoy playing infection and breakout in Halo 5.
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Can you ban players that do disconjointed conga lines into the enemy teams kill box effectively feeding them kills? Which is why I rage quit at least once a day, it gets frustrating when your the only player with a team ethic, or buddies up with you to give back up and flank. The habitual quiting is B.S., my experiance halo multiplayer has always been, your going to have a realy good time or a realy bad time. Almost never in between are there good close matches whare you win or lose by hair, these are very few and very very far in between. Oh hear you say "So-knee-ewe. y doesn,t u make ur one teem; stewped?’ becuase then we would dominate every match and it gets boring. It’s a level of mastery that the average player nor champions understand. So in closing, I realy don’t care to pay for a bad time at the end of my day attemping let off some steam on Halo ends up just getting me more steamed. P.S. you unstand how averages work right? If I quit once a day every day my ban time will grow exponentialy. Also could make the ban message not insufferably cheeky, I’d rather it call me an @$$ then “Ban hammer strikes again. 
teehee”.
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> > > Just got DCd from a match (not xbox LIVE) due to server disconnect, and it was marked as a DNF - just wanted to post that, for somebody special, who, referred to an update fixing that.
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> > so a smart person would then come to the conclusion warzone DC are separate the arena ones… since i still have yet to receive a DNF in arena, and ive notcied more ppl are talking about that.
> > also your little GF still was not banned for the dumb game you keep trying to bring up she was banned for the game before that she quit. and she did not receive a DNF for the game she finished first either. in case you missed it someone else pointed that out as well.
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> FINALLY you admit they are separate - THANK YOU. My god your arguments change so much - THANK YOU for proving that. Don’t believe me? Refer to your other posts on this topic regrading this point, in which you tried to tell me they account for the same thing (after the “update” too) - they’re either separate or together, and you just said they’re separate.
> I literally have nothing to try to prove to you (no matter what terrible excuse you have, or insult {such as “ignorance” which is hypocritical}) anymore after that; thank you.
I said DC are separate. Not the fact you get banned from arena. You really
need to learn to read and comprehend.
-Yoink- that banning -Yoink-. When I lag out of a game I shouldn’t get banned for it. That’s -Yoink-, straight up -Yoink-. -Yoink- 343 and this banning -Yoink-. I paid $60 to enjoy a game, and I can’t even do that due to the arena always kicking me out of games and then saying I’m banned for it. Fix the -Yoink!- game because I’m sick of this -Yoink-
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> -Yoink- that banning -Yoink-. When I lag out of a game I shouldn’t get banned for it. That’s -Yoink-, straight up -Yoink-. -Yoink- 343 and this banning -Yoink-. I paid $60 to enjoy a game, and I can’t even do that due to the arena always kicking me out of games and then saying I’m banned for it. Fix the -Yoink!- game because I’m sick of this -Yoink-
so idk how much connection issues you have you have 17 DNFs in less then 40 games. 6 are literally in a row. now if all of those happen to be connection you need to look into a new provider are getting better internet. even if half of them are connections issues thats still a lot you quit. point being with that many DNFs its hard to assume they are all DC issues. but yea i have never seen anyone have that many DNFs from a DC issues. maybe a few but not 6 in a row
edit- 43 DNF in less then 140 games since the end of january. (jan 28) in that you had the 6 in a row, then another section with 4 in a row and then 7 in a row. so with all of that it makes it harder and harder to believe its solely connection based…
So rarely do I post anything but the game is getting pretty glitchy so I feel compelled to do something about it!
Preface: While playing I had 2 team mates either quit or lag out. This happens more often than it should. I got sick of being the other teams punching bag and quit the match. I now have a ban hammer. I get it. I agree with the Hammer. But there has to be a better way. Why? Here’s why: (and yes, I’ve checked the settings, router, etc. It’s Halo…not any of my other games)
-Lag outs and glitches are still fairly prevalent. When this occurs…You’ll get banned.
These are only a few of the fairly sizeable problems we’re seeing. I understand and agree with the penalty system. Too many people throw a little hissy-fit and quit because they aren’t doing well or their team isn’t winning. I think the Hammer is a good deterrent but it needs to be better. If the servers aren’t stable enough to prevent these issues then you need to figure something else out.
Respectfully,
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> > “but as far as DC go in general if someone has a crap connection why should the others be punished?” - True, then why does 343i not allow me to pick my region to connect? Why can I play every other game I own with zero problems, even while every other device I own connected and streaming with my 150 Mbps internet speed?
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> > “but i can easily start recording every disconnect i receive to cross reference it” - Fantastic. Get caught up with what I have and you might have room to talk. You would also be talking about post update… which again only I mentioned above.
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> > “all i know is if you haven’t been playing the game for a week you don’t need to be disputing what i am saying” - Unfortunately I do when and where you are wrong. Now if you would have come out and said ‘this is how it was’, and ‘this is how it is’, and ‘here is the proof or gave a reason why’… you wouldn’t be looking so ignorant. You instead lashed out and made many assumption supported by your unclear reasoning. We will see soon enough though. I will have friends inviting me to play eventually, and I won’t be able to turn them down. Then I will have before and after photos to match with my game history.
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> i still have room to talk honestly, i mentioned recording it to only prove to you since you are the only one that claims to have picture proof. no one else has come on here and said otherwise. in fact they dont respond back after wards. there are just as many ppl that say they have never been banned from a DC just as there are ones that say so.
> just cause i was banned i never stated why now did i? for all you know i could have been goofing off in a full fireteam all night. so on that note i would love to believe you only got banned for DCs but if you are getting banned so much you dont want to play halo then i have to assume its something more. which is reasonable honestly. specially since i have two friends who have god awful internet and have not been banned from the games they lag out of consistently, well before the most recent update.
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> i still yet to see how explaining my personal experience with the DC regardless of video proof shows ignorance. are you just as not ignorant for not understanding my last 50 or so games, then seeing what dates those were on and know they were after the update and they are recent? i never said every DC ever. just the recent ones cause thats when i started actually following them, and if you pay attention i only recently ever started saying that about DCs.
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> and still no you cant really be disputing what i am saying, since i assumed there were half intelligent ppl in here to know i was talking about recent games (my games have dates next to them as is everyones) i was not aware i needed to lay everything down for you. but thank you for showing me you need to be spoon fed information.
You don’t have room to talk, honestly. I just downloaded the DC, and played my first few games in weeks. I was able to get a few lag-free games accomplished, and then three DNF’s in a row due to ‘game server disconnect’. One game shows on my profile, and the other two do not for some reason, but the error messages were all uniform. The end result was also the same however. This ‘fix’ did nothing to improve 343i’s terrible server connections. Why would I keep trying to play just to get banned for minutes or hours?
So back when I said I would let you know the difference before and after the DC… the answer is clear, no changes to help this pitiful game. You said “i would love to believe you only got banned for DCs but if you are getting banned so much you don’t want to play halo then i have to assume its something more” …In response to my own words, I said I stopped playing because of the bad servers, not because I was getting banned. I stop playing games before bans kick in past a few seconds. You would benefit from some grade school critical reading for better understanding. You then said “for all you know i could have been goofing off in a full fire team all night” …you say things like this, but then you are quick to “know” the reason others get banned, evident through your hundreds of reply-posts? Try to not be a bigot please.
A little free advice for you kin x ju, if you want people to also understand what you are talking about on forums, or day to day in-person conversations (if you know what those are), you may want to up your english and grammar game. Spell checking would also benefit you.
Im so sick and tired of getting banned cause the servers are complete trash…
Its not even my fault but it seems that i lag out every 5 games or so and the bans are getting higher and higher
Its up to 45mins a ban now and i can’t do anything about it…i don’t understand why the “ban hammer” can’t detect when i lag out, I’m not even quitting
Please fix this 343 since I’m really over getting banned for over 40mins every 10 games I play
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> Im so sick and tired of getting banned cause the servers are complete trash…
> Its not even my fault but it seems that i lag out every 5 games or so and the bans are getting higher and higher
> Its up to 45mins a ban now and i can’t do anything about it…i don’t understand why the “ban hammer” can’t detect when i lag out, I’m not even quitting
> Please fix this 343 since I’m really over getting banned for over 40mins every 10 games I play
Agreed. I’m under the impression that the connection priority selection added with the newest dlc is cosmetic only. If the search goes from very restrictive to not restrictive at all… Why am I finding players and games at the same rate under both? Not that I’m complaining about quick matchmaking when I have it fully connection priority oriented, but if the connection really was priority, people still wouldn’t be getting dropped from 343i servers.
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> > > also your little GF still was not banned for the dumb game you keep trying to bring up she was banned for the game before that she quit. and she did not receive a DNF for the game she finished first either. in case you missed it someone else pointed that out as well.
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> > FINALLY you admit they are separate - THANK YOU. My god your arguments change so much - THANK YOU for proving that. Don’t believe me? Refer to your other posts on this topic regrading this point, in which you tried to tell me they account for the same thing (after the “update” too) - they’re either separate or together, and you just said they’re separate.
> > I literally have nothing to try to prove to you (no matter what terrible excuse you have, or insult {such as “ignorance” which is hypocritical}) anymore after that; thank you.
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> I said DC are separate. Not the fact you get banned from arena. You really
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“1) i have seen ppl numerous times be banned in arena for warzone DNFs. and numerous ppl have even been like oh i didnt know warzone can get me banned in arena.”
Page 57, quoted from you - this is honestly a joke. Don’t try editing it either, I quoted it in one of my posts. - you can’t say the DCs are separate and then say the bans are not - that’s literally 2 different ideas… After all, the DCs cause the bans, since after all, leaving is a violation of the code of conduct , i.e, misconduct (you know, that “agreement” that you keep shoving in people’s faces?)… If the DCs are separate, so are the bans. Either A causes B, or A doesn’t cause B - you can’t say A is also C. If you honestly think that’s not true, then go read the banning regulations/requirements via the 1st post on this thread, or via snapshot of old description of misconduct on Halo 5 pre-update.
Pick an argument and stick with it, and make it sound logical instead of thinking of a smart thing to say in the moment. The concept of causation is fairly clear in the banning system: if you leave too many times, you get banned - and in fact, you have made this clear in numerous of your posts, as has anyone in this thread.
So, glad we got that agreed upon - but, since you want to say the DCs are separate, aka, the causal variable i.e., A, then the ban, B, is also separate. You cannot have B without having A - try to argue that to anyone, please, and tell me what happens. Unless of course, you want to say an asinine thing such as people do get banned without any reason at all, or an unknown reason…? 
[On the other hand, in the event that you try to be witty and post a flaming remark, such as A can actually cause C through an intervening variable, I must point out that there is no intervening variable - as 343i has described very clearly: “if you continue to violate these rules, you will be punished” - meaning, there are only 2 variables: A and B.] And before you tap rapidly on your keys to make fancy words with your keyboard, please, “learn to read and comprehend,” because what I have just typed in here is a basic concept that has been proven throughout history in science, psychology/social control (which is what this is - to quickly explain, social control is the concept of taking action on a form of deviance to prevent it from happening again. In other words, a punishment - thus, the punishment is the ban for the deviance of leaving matches, team killing, etc.) and other forms of conceptology. In short, if you go against this (i.e., causation), you go against years of research and ideas… Please, please, PLEASE do not make that mistake.
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i always get disconnected at the end of the game even if the end game comes up and the winning team is showen at the last sec disconnected and then banned for bs reason every time every day 343 really needs to work on there servers
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> I’ve been banned because I have apparently been quitting too many games. However, all these incidents are unintentional; it is due to a very unstable internet connection that cannot be fixed in my house. Is there any way I can get 343 to lift the ban? I really enjoy playing infection and breakout in Halo 5.
343i bans people with low quality internet? Well that’s a snobby descriminating way to conduct business imo (they only accept rich internet, but will accept everyones money).
This need to be listed on the game before purchased “Multiplayer for this game is not compatible for low quality internet users”. This will help prevent people from wasting money on a game they can’t even play; what a bunch of -Yoink-!
i think 343i is silent on this because they want to get rid of users with low quality internet, their excuse is “stop quitting games” you have “dnf” sneaky tactics need to be taken down, soon, patience ,soon!