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> > just got banned 24 hours for losing connection to the game after it announced the winner of the match, its so stupid…
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> If he winner is announced you were not banned for finishing a game. You had a dnf is a prior game an the ban kicked in after the one you just finished
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> > hay its only a 9 min ban but your server is randomly kicking me theres no lag it just dose it and its happend to me a bit it only started today 17/5/2016 the date just making sure that you guys can see whats up it started happening to my mates to
> > if you are receiving the “lost connection to dedicated servers” message that game does not count in your game history and does not get recorded as a DNF. i know this from experience because it happened to me all weekend numerous times and not one game registers when it happens
> > if its the fireteam has changed message idk about that one
> > This is not true. Back in February I have been disconnected from game sessions about 3 times and was briefly banned for 22 seconds. Unless 343 has addressed this issue in recent updates, those disconnects does in fact show up as DNF. Note, I have not been playing Halo 5 much recently because I’ve been infuriated by that ban. It is insulting to get banned for disconnection losses only for to accuse me of quitting.
> > Just for the record: Before purchasing halo 5 I was fully aware of the Ban Hammer quit/Idle policy; so I would prefer you not attempt to refute this unless you are an official representative from 343i. I am 100% confident those DNF instances were related to disconnects. I have the screenshots and short game clip recorded but have no clue how to get it posted here for you to see.
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> i was giving a specific message as in I have now had this happen for 10 times in 60 games yet not one of those disconnects from that message even show up in my game history. I can also tel you its not luck or anything. It’s a consistent pattern. That is the only reason I am saying that is from personal experience from the disconnects. Also it goes to prove why none of my friends got banned in the past for lagging out numerous games in a row and receiving that message.
you quoted my message but it is not clear what you are responding to.
I have been banned for 2 days for the bs “your fireteam has changed m8” as well as falling off the rig in infection. . . The rig. Infection. . . Seems legit.
PS the most recent dnf’s with warzone are to do with a strange issue I only seem to have, where you get kicked to the lobby with no UI and you can’t exit. It for some reason counts as quitting and is extremely confusing.
I’m all for a legitimate banhammer but this banhammer is out of control. I’ve never been banned in my entire history of Halo. I have a good reputation, I don’t team kill or suicide intentionally and I almost never quit games. I pride myself on not quitting unless more than half of my team has left or it is lagging to the point of being unplayable. My gaming time is to valuable to waste on an unenjoyable game like that. I consider myself a good member of the community and a loyal fan. I was just banned for 2:33 and just like everyone always says. “I don’t know why” in fact I looked at my last 230 games and I have exactly 3 DNF in over a month. That equals a 0.013 percent DNF rate. I know its very minor and petty to be upset by a 2 minute ban but I almost never quit Halo games, but I will quit playing Halo over Yoink! like this. Go ahead and Ban your loyal player base and watch them leave 343!
So the “Banhammer” strikes. I get booted for 40min because I blasted my own teammate twice with a plasma cannon…why you ask? He kept shooting me with the intention on killing me because I had a gun he wanted. This has happened to me on so many occasions and it’s frustrating. Someone on your team wants a gun but you get it before him so he starts blasting you, so the common thing to do is turn to see whose shooting you (even though you know) and fire back to give warning, but he continues so one of you dies…stupid. This happened to me earlier and I did the same thing because I’m fed up with getting shot by my own teammates for weapons…were on the same team! I try my best to play fair but I’m not going to let someone on my team kill me ever…that’s it. I feel that you should be able to defend your player against anyone and the “Banhammer” should be able to recognize who shot first. I’m pissed about the people shooting me on my team but I’m even more pissed at 343 for not having a proper way to deal with it. “If the Banhammer detects enough wrong doing, you were doing wrong”. I don’t think so, check the algorithm because there’s a few updates needed in my opinion. Sorry for the ramble but post if you have the same sort of issue. Thanks.
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> So the “Banhammer” strikes. I get booted for 40min because I blasted my own teammate twice with a plasma cannon…why you ask? He kept shooting me with the intention on killing me because I had a gun he wanted. This has happened to me on so many occasions and it’s frustrating. Someone on your team wants a gun but you get it before him so he starts blasting you, so the common thing to do is turn to see whose shooting you (even though you know) and fire back to give warning, but he continues so one of you dies…stupid. This happened to me earlier and I did the same thing because I’m fed up with getting shot by my own teammates for weapons…were on the same team! I try my best to play fair but I’m not going to let someone on my team kill me ever…that’s it. I feel that you should be able to defend your player against anyone and the “Banhammer” should be able to recognize who shot first. I’m pissed about the people shooting me on my team but I’m even more pissed at 343 for not having a proper way to deal with it. “If the Banhammer detects enough wrong doing, you were doing wrong”. I don’t think so, check the algorithm because there’s a few updates needed in my opinion. Sorry for the ramble but post if you have the same sort of issue. Thanks.
In the future, do not betray teammates even if they are antagonizing or betraying you. Instead, play the game as normally as you can, then report the offending player once the game is over. You can even go so far as to block said player to reduce the likelihood that you’ll see him again in matchmaking.
I have just been in a game yet again with two idle players and they got kicked, twice this has happened today and when i have left i have been banned please fix this, ive been playing this game for such a long time, i love halo and this is really giving me a rough time.
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> > > just got banned 24 hours for losing connection to the game after it announced the winner of the match, its so stupid…
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> > If he winner is announced you were not banned for finishing a game. You had a dnf is a prior game an the ban kicked in after the one you just finished
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> > > hay its only a 9 min ban but your server is randomly kicking me theres no lag it just dose it and its happend to me a bit it only started today 17/5/2016 the date just making sure that you guys can see whats up it started happening to my mates to
> > > if you are receiving the “lost connection to dedicated servers” message that game does not count in your game history and does not get recorded as a DNF. i know this from experience because it happened to me all weekend numerous times and not one game registers when it happens
> > > if its the fireteam has changed message idk about that one
> > > This is not true. Back in February I have been disconnected from game sessions about 3 times and was briefly banned for 22 seconds. Unless 343 has addressed this issue in recent updates, those disconnects does in fact show up as DNF. Note, I have not been playing Halo 5 much recently because I’ve been infuriated by that ban. It is insulting to get banned for disconnection losses only for to accuse me of quitting.
> > > Just for the record: Before purchasing halo 5 I was fully aware of the Ban Hammer quit/Idle policy; so I would prefer you not attempt to refute this unless you are an official representative from 343i. I am 100% confident those DNF instances were related to disconnects. I have the screenshots and short game clip recorded but have no clue how to get it posted here for you to see.
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> > i was giving a specific message as in I have now had this happen for 10 times in 60 games yet not one of those disconnects from that message even show up in my game history. I can also tel you its not luck or anything. It’s a consistent pattern. That is the only reason I am saying that is from personal experience from the disconnects. Also it goes to prove why none of my friends got banned in the past for lagging out numerous games in a row and receiving that message.
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> you quoted my message but it is not clear what you are responding to.
i was responding to you saying DC count as DNF. but my experience was with the specific message “lost connection to dedicated server” any other message from this idk as i have not experienced. but i know if you get that message mid game the game does not count against you
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> I have just been in a game yet again with two idle players and they got kicked, twice this has happened today and when i have left i have been banned please fix this, ive been playing this game for such a long time, i love halo and this is really giving me a rough time.
you had 3 DNF within 10 games, thats why you got banned even though you left what seems to have been a game that was not going to be worth playing. had those other 2 not happened you would not be banned now
Hear me out please.
For whatever the cause of the ban… whether it be accident, purposely, wrongfully, or whatever…
I think it’s safe to say the ban system needs restructure. I, myself believe team killers deserve payback, Internet providers lag SOME of us out, JOINING a losing match is bullspit(Warzone: enemy controls all bases and ahead by 200 points) etc.
Anyways… I suggest the banhammer stays BUT… is there anyway we can restructure the banhammer to ONLY affect the GAME mode? For example “Infection” and not ALL of “Arena” mode? Another example “Warzone” ban and not Warzone assault ?? Why can’t it ONLY affect ONE TINY game mode???
I’ll admit…
With the team killers who’ve killed me who’ve I’ve gotten payback for by killing them, and the loss of connections, lag outs, leave games, last minute turning xbox off due to real life situations… I’m no longer able to play any online Halo 5 game mode.
Imagine how many people gave up on Halo due to this?? Imagine how many people will come BACK and make it popular again if the ban system was restructured?
This is just my Opinion.
Please try to answer all my questions without any generic or simple explanation with a “rules are rules” mentality. Please be open minded
My most important question is…
Can you or anyone else link me to a higher point of contact in which my opinion can be read by a game developer in the ban systems department?
Hear me out please.
For whatever the cause of the ban… whether it be accident, purposely, wrongfully, or whatever…I think it’s safe to say the ban system needs restructure. I, myself believe team killers deserve payback, Internet providers lag SOME of us out, JOINING a losing match is bullspit(Warzone: enemy controls all bases and ahead by 200 points) etc.Anyways… I suggest the banhammer stays BUT… is there anyway we can restructure the banhammer to ONLY affect the GAME mode? For example “Infection” and not ALL of “Arena” mode? Another example “Warzone” ban and not Warzone assault ?? Why can’t it ONLY affect ONE TINY game mode???I’ll admit…
With the team killers who’ve killed me who’ve I’ve gotten payback for by killing them, and the loss of connections, lag outs, leave games, last minute turning xbox off due to real life situations… I’m no longer able to play any online Halo 5 game mode.Imagine how many people gave up on Halo due to this?? Imagine how many people will come BACK and make it popular again if the ban system was restructured?This is just my Opinion.
Please try to answer all my questions without any generic or simple explanation with a “rules are rules” mentality. Please be open mindedMy most important question is…
Can you or anyone else link me to a higher point of contact in which my opinion can be read by a game developer in the ban systems department?
I keep being banned for quitting arena once or twice, and this has been a problem for me for a long time and it would be awesome if someone with the staff could help me out
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> Hear me out please.
> For whatever the cause of the ban… whether it be accident, purposely, wrongfully, or whatever…
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> I think it’s safe to say the ban system needs restructure. I, myself believe team killers deserve payback, Internet providers lag SOME of us out, JOINING a losing match is bullspit(Warzone: enemy controls all bases and ahead by 200 points) etc.
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> Anyways… I suggest the banhammer stays BUT… is there anyway we can restructure the banhammer to ONLY affect the GAME mode? For example “Infection” and not ALL of “Arena” mode? Another example “Warzone” ban and not Warzone assault ?? Why can’t it ONLY affect ONE TINY game mode???
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> I’ll admit…
> With the team killers who’ve killed me who’ve I’ve gotten payback for by killing them, and the loss of connections, lag outs, leave games, last minute turning xbox off due to real life situations… I’m no longer able to play any online Halo 5 game mode.
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> Imagine how many people gave up on Halo due to this?? Imagine how many people will come BACK and make it popular again if the ban system was restructured?
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> This is just my Opinion.
> Please try to answer all my questions without any generic or simple explanation with a “rules are rules” mentality. Please be open minded
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> My most important question is…
> Can you or anyone else link me to a higher point of contact in which my opinion can be read by a game developer in the ban systems department?
if someone purposely kills you and you killed them back one time for pay back, you wont get booted for that. but if you kept killing them then that is on you. you are kinda allowed 2 kills before your teammates get the boot option. but then think about this, what if that guy is just a troll purposely killing you for you to retaliate and kill him so he can boot you…who wins in the situation? he does cause he gets to boot you and now you are banned. but you and the other teammates are at loss. point being just be aware of how many times you killed that guy if you really think you have to justify getting revenge. (following him and tea baggin his dead body is enough revenge for me)
with the lag, depending on the message from my experience the games dont even show up in game history, thats not so say none of the three different reasons will but los to the dedicated server certaintly doesnt.
i would be fine if you only get banned in ranked playlists. if it doesnt have a true rank next to it you should be able to play regardless of being banned or not. on that there are plenty of other things the ban hammer should do. like maybe you get banned for an hour at a time, but in the other game modes if you continue to quit or what not then you get rp and xp deducted. but if they are quitting they dont care about that stuff, which is debatable, or all the DNF players just need to play in the same lobby. that would be funny actually most games i bet wouldnt even get to the set kill/objective limit, or have the time run out before its over.
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> I keep begging banned for quitting arena once or twice, and this has been a problem for me for a long time and it would be awesome if someone with the staff could help me out
i responded to you yesterday.
“so i think you forgot the 41 total DNF you have in 113 games in arena. there were numerous pages were you had back to back DNF one page had 5 in a row and 6 out of 7 games also. then the page right before was 3 in a row and 4 out of ten. that is by definition excessive quitting.you can change the title to rightfully banned also if you want.”
it doesnt matter how long ago all those were, they are less then 120 games. you quit once in less then three games on average, i stopped going back after that. so the system has tou deemed as a quitter, so you should stop DNF for a while to try and not get the ban so much
advice
I’m sure there is feedback regarding this, but after finishing a game in team arena I was banned for quitting. I have never quit. It also dropped me an entire tier for “quitting”. This seems to be a problem since the Remember Reach update. Please resolve it soon.
i have. a important post titled remove the banning system
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> “so i think you forgot the 41 total DNF you have in 113 games in arena. there were numerous pages were you had back to back DNF one page had 5 in a row and 6 out of 7 games also. then the page right before was 3 in a row and 4 out of ten. that is by definition excessive quitting.you can change the title to rightfully banned also if you want.”
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> it doesnt matter how long ago all those were, they are less then 120 games. you quit once in less then three games on average, i stopped going back after that. so the system has tou deemed as a quitter, so you should stop DNF for a while to try and not get the ban so much
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but he paid alot of money just so he could get banned?
just remove the damn bann all other halos have no bann and are doing better than halo5
It’s happened again…
I got banned for 9 hrs becaused I lost connection of the server before the game even started. I won’t be surprised if my csr went down yet again. I have made a habit of recording each time this happens.
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> > > I keep begging banned for quitting arena once or twice, and this has been a problem for me for a long time and it would be awesome if someone with the staff could help me out
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> > “so i think you forgot the 41 total DNF you have in 113 games in arena. there were numerous pages were you had back to back DNF one page had 5 in a row and 6 out of 7 games also. then the page right before was 3 in a row and 4 out of ten. that is by definition excessive quitting.you can change the title to rightfully banned also if you want.”
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> > it doesnt matter how long ago all those were, they are less then 120 games. you quit once in less then three games on average, i stopped going back after that. so the system has tou deemed as a quitter, so you should stop DNF for a while to try and not get the ban so much
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> but he paid alot of money just so he could get banned?
and so did everyone else, but he is warned before he goes into matchmaking that quitting, betrayals, and suicides can lead to a ban. HE MADE the choice to quit 41 times. some multiple times in a row. so he knew what he was doing with plenty of warning. and honestly $60 is not a lot of money, some ppl might think it is, but to some its not. and in the grand scheme of things depending on what game modes it was he was ruining the game for 120 teammates at least…does their moeny not matter? and depending on when he bought H5 the price has dropped a lot from when it first came out. so he could have spent only 40-$50 on the game.
regardless a few quits maybe thats fine, but he has almost quit half of his games. you can not seriously be behind him on that. i didnt even check warzone to see what he does over there
also i can see why you would want the ban system removed, 10 DNFs in your last 40 games, and well before the MOR update.
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> i have. a important post titled remove the banning system
I don’t think it should be removed. It needs to function though and it obviously isn’t working the way it should since the last update.