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> CAN SOMEONE ANSWER THE F****** QUESTION AND SAY HOW LONG IT TAKES FOR THEM TO RESET?!
As. Long as you play a few rounds of slayer in between you won’t get banned
but if you just wait it won’t reset
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> I got disconnected because some kid got butt hurt we were winning. He rage quit and lagged us out right after it said i was banned for quiting. Just started playing online too. Bungie get your s… together for people that actually want to play
You have 2 DNF’s in your last 10 games… Someone else quitting doesn’t cause you to lag out, try checking your internet connection for issues
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> I was just banned for completing a match banned for no reason lmao no team killing no quitting mid game and yet banned for 22hrs and this is not the first time that I have been banned. I don’t understand you pay 60$ to play a match and then get banned lmao funny
Well you quit one game in your last 10 matches, but seeing as 343 has changed the site and we can only see your last 10 games, who knows how many more you dnf’d, because a lot of people have said what you said, then been called out by their game history
I got a two day ban simply because of the post game disconnect bug. Which isn’t the third or forth time this has happened. Is an appeal for an un-ban realistically going to happen before the ban wears of naturally? All I want in the world is to finish my 10th game of Free for All to see what rank I get! I’ve been kicking butt in that playlist recently, my game history will prove it. I did have one DNF yesterday, but other than that, I’ve thus far won 6/10 games I believe, let me finish!
Be me
Play Arena
Play a match
Get destroyed due to bad teammates
Leave
Play another match
Get destroyed again due to bad teammates
Not leave due to fear of ban
Match ends
Get banned anyway
Mfw
Play MCC instead
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> I refer to my previous statement
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> Just finished a match and directly after was banned for a whole day. What the actual fudge? Help?
Are you sure it was for a day? If this was your first ban then it should only be for a few minutes, 24 minutes would probably be the maximum i’d expect to see on a first ban. If you have been banned before, as the OP states, it’s an incremental system so you need to have been banned quite a few times already to hit that. If you are quitting, try not to quit so many games. If it’s for idling / AFK’ing, it’s always best to finish a match and then back out to the lobby. Don’t idle through games or you will get banned. If it’s for disconnections, check the support forums for details on how you can check your network connection and move over to a wired connection if possible to run tests. Worth noting: a fast connection doesn’t always means a good or stable connection.
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> I got a two day ban simply because of the post game disconnect bug. Which isn’t the third or forth time this has happened. Is an appeal for an un-ban realistically going to happen before the ban wears of naturally? All I want in the world is to finish my 10th game of Free for All to see what rank I get! I’ve been kicking butt in that playlist recently, my game history will prove it. I did have one DNF yesterday, but other than that, I’ve thus far won 6/10 games I believe, let me finish!
Looking back through your service record, you seem to have bursts of DNF matches showing up often quite a few grouped together. Over the last month you’re averaging about 8 DNF’s per week which is causing the banhammer to strike - as the first post mentions, the system is looking for patterns of quitting or disconnecting. If you find you are disconnecting this often see my advice to the poster above ^
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Eight a week?! That has to count Warzone as well, surly? I only really play Arena on the weekends, because I only get to play after work in the evening, during the week, so I’m more likely to quit if my game is off due to being tired.
As such, I go out of my way not to play Arena during the week. I will concede that I quit a lot of Warzone games (becuase who wants to be JIPed into a game that’s already over), which would explain why my DNF count is so high, but if I’m being penalized for quiting a JIP game type, then something is very wrong here.
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Nothings wrong, you’re quitting and being punished, that’s Oh-So-Right.
If one person quits a match, everyone else should be able to leave without fear of being banned. Maybe still have them get deranked a little in CSR, but it’s not fun for anyone to play a 2 VS 4 or even a 3 VS 4.
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After reading the thread which you chose to sneakily bump into this thread - I’m having trouble telling if your trolling or not.
Alrighty, I’ve a pretty clean record, only 2 idles that I can think of since the game came out. Last one most recently about 10 minutes ago. I get a phonecall in the middle of the game. I take it, we’re about halfway done a Strongholds game. Got a DNF. Played the next game a few minutes after the other ended, a CTF, and we dominated - I wanted to continue on with that group. Then I get a banhammer after the CTF game. Because of Idling during the Strongholds game.
Does that in any way seem unfair? I have a clean record of playing through games, and then I don’t complete ONE game because I got a phone call, so I’m punished for it? Every other game, idling only lasts as long as a battery change if they die and I get right back into it.
I’m back up now, it was a short ban, but come on.
My buddy got banned for quitting one game early. He saw that I got on so quit his game and got a message saying he was banned for 10 mins. First time ever quitting a game because no matter how bad a game might be we don’t quit. So that’s some pattern they are looking for…a pattern of one. We aren’t kids I’m 46 and my friend is 32.
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I know your intensions are well meaning, but the support forum for disconnections is a joke. You can find it here:
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/e0d9938206f04a598ce84f2c8cadce02/topics/losing-connection-to-the-game/889fdcab-4fa6-4169-990d-5738727353ec/posts?page=49#post977
Sorry for not providing a lazy link, I don’t see the option to add it. Don’t bother calling Xbox support either. They will just point you to that thread.
Read through the 49 pages and you will see a long list of ideas of why the disconnects are happening, with none of them confirmed. At one point early on someone from 343i popped in to say that it was being looked into. Then … nothing. The disconnects aren’t your typical networking issues… and yes, there are multiple issues. A week after the game came out I started getting dropped after about 2 minutes into each game (no noticeable lag in the game prior to the drop). I found the support thread above and read through all of it. I formulated my own theory that there is a compatibility (not quite sure this is the right word here) issue between the servers and some old modems (many with the issue had Arris modems, like I did). I was in a position to swap out my old (perfectly operable) modem for a new (non Arris) modem. This solved the frequent drop issue for me. However, I don’t think this worked for everyone, and people shouldn’t have to upgrade a perfectly functional modem to play this game.
Fast forward to today and I still have the occasional drop (luckily not frequent enough to get me banned). These drops are quite peculiar. I will be in a party chat with my friends while in matchmaking. I will get dropped from the game, but not from the party. I will be talking to my friends in the party chat even though Halo 5 (at the main dashboard of the game) will say that I am offline and won’t let me navigate the online menus. I have to force close and relaunch the game for it to recognize that I am online. This doesn’t seem to be an issue with my network.
This disconnecting issue is not resolvable for some people. They just deal with the disconnects and bans in hopes to play a game they enjoy or they give up and get a refund(check the 49 page monstrosity).
Circling back to the actual topic of this thread. I’m all for implementing a system that encourages people to complete matchmade games. However, banning people for frequent disconnects caused by the server and banning people for multiple hours doesn’t accomplish this. Add to the fact that the bans seem so arbitrary and it leads to frustration, to multiple threads a day from people questioning their ban and to this thread. The current system is broken. It appears arbitrary, is overly harsh, and captures a segment of the population that gets dropped through no fault of their own. While I think it needs a complete overhaul, just a little transparency on how the system works would help ease the frustration of a lot of people.
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> CAN SOMEONE ANSWER THE F****** QUESTION AND SAY HOW LONG IT TAKES FOR THEM TO RESET?!
No one here can answer your question because no one here knows exactly how the banhammer works. You are asking a question that will probably never get answered.
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> My buddy got banned for quitting one game early. He saw that I got on so quit his game and got a message saying he was banned for 10 mins. First time ever quitting a game because no matter how bad a game might be we don’t quit. So that’s some pattern they are looking for…a pattern of one. We aren’t kids I’m 46 and my friend is 32.
It’s more than likely that there is either more than one DNF match in his service record, or the system has recorded idling / team killing. Since Halo 5 released I have only seen 1 instance so far where it looked like the hammer had swung incorrectly and that was on an account that hadn’t played a game yet - likely due to some other factor. If your friend is sure their account is clean, ask them to post here and we can take a look into it
I quit one game yesterday and banhammer hit for 8:30 hrs! Is it cumulative? Does it reset ever? One match come on.
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> I quit one game yesterday and banhammer hit for 8:30 hrs! Is it cumulative? Does it reset ever? One match come on.
Yes, it takes into account your previous games so if you have a history of quitting, AFK’ing or team killing then eventually one game is going to trigger a ban if you do any of those things again. The system itself generally runs 1 game behind, which is sometime why you will be banned at the end of your next match.
It’s a very simple thing… Quit and you get banned. It does not reset and keeps adding up. People are getting banned for 24hrs and I have seen 48hrs. Some of these people have not come back.
Some people rage quite, some have reality reasons, some network, and others (like in Ireland and South America) have 343I issues.
The BanHammer keeps coming and -Yoink!- people off. They are leaving. Halo 5 is a so-so game that has a sub-par population. Soon all the people banned will leave. The pop will be so low the BanHammer will go away. By that time it will be to late to save the game. That will be on 343I and the almighty BanHammer. (Taps Playing) So long Halo Franchise.