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> > > > THE BANHAMMER NEEDS TO BE REMOVED ENTIRELY. Why force a player to play a match that they either can’t finish because of life’s disruptions, or simply don’t want to because they’re getting annihilated by the opposing team? People will ALWAYS quit, no matter what you do to them. THEY WILL ALWAYS QUIT. Stop wasting time and resources banning them, and just let them quit. You can’t force a player to do something that they really don’t want to do, it’s actually wrong of you to do that if you really think about it. These are PAYING CUSTOMERS. They paid for your product, and you’re banning them from doing the thing they PAID YOU to do. You’re essentially robbing them. Let them quit, absolutely no one should be banned from playing a game THEY -Yoinking!- PAID FOR. In order to discourage players from quiting, why not simply demote them? Give 'em a huge drop on their rank, that’s why people quit anyway - they don’t want their rank to drop. Banning them only pushes your fanbase away (quite literally). A player will only go through so many in-game -Yoink- whoopings before they decide, “-Yoink- this, I’m done.”. And after a few rage quits resulting in increasingly lengthy bans, they’ll start to think, “Man, -Yoink- this, I get my -Yoink- kicked every time I come on here, that’s no fun at all! And I can’t quit because then I get banned for several hours, and that’s even less fun! It seems to me that every time I play this game, all I get is stressed out and frustrated, and that’s definitely not why I pay $60 for videogames. This sucks, I can’t even play what I paid for. I think this was a waste of money”. And so players will start to leave, and they might even stay gone when you push your next installment out - remembering how unenjoyable your previous product was. IT IS NO EXAGGERATION WHEN I SAY THAT THE BANHAMMER INFURIATES PLAYERS TO SUCH A DEGREE THAT THEY WILL LEAVE THE FRANCHISE, AND STAY GONE. So PLEASE, remove the banhammer altogether, and instead demote quiters for quiting. Cause they’re always gonna quit, and you know what? They have a right to do so, they paid for the damn game. No one should be banned, it absolutely BLOWS.
> > > > Thanks for your time 343i, and despite the tone of this message, I actually love what you’re doing with the Halo franchise (except the banhammer), and you can expect for me to continue supporting you guys for a looong time (yes, even if you don’t remove the banhammer). I’m angry because I care <3
> > > > A true fan, JAAS12
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> > > Like with another person, you seem to misunderstand the nature of the transaction you made when purchasing the game. You don’t own the game outright; you own a license to play the game. And that license comes with rules and conditions, such as “don’t copy and distribute this game”, and “343i can deny service for any reason”, yada yada. Also included in those rules is the terms for banning. It says right on the playlists that quitting, idling, and betraying can get you banned. So if you do those things, you run the risk of suffering consequences. It’s not hidden, it’s in plain sight. You choose to continue quitting, you can’t be surprised when you get banned. The idea behind the banhammer is to hold players accountable for online interactions, and make it the best multiplayer experience for everyone. Quitters, betrayers, and idlers ruin the multiplayer experience for others, and so banning them is a way to both inform bad players to change their ways and to get rid of those bad apples for a time. 343i isn’t forcing anyone to do anything; the ability to quit is right there. SImilar to how the law cannot force you not to commit crimes. But when you do commit crimes, you go to jail. Think of quitting as a video game crime and the banhammer as video game jail.
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> > No sir, I understand that a person is purchasing the rights to use 343i’s product, not outright ownership of the product. And be that as it may, it doesn’t void my argument in any way. Customers have paid to use this product, and the banhammer does not allow them to do that. The banhammer is attempting to combat an inevitability. And as is very apparent, it is failing massively. I argue that people will quit no matter what you do to them, so why run the risk of pushing away a sizeable portion of your fanbase, when you can simply demote them to discourage quiting, or come up with another solution that doesn’t involve outright alienation of paying customers? Because the truth is that players don’t care if they’re paying for permission to use the game, or paying for ownership of the game. All they care about is that they paid to play, and the banhammer doesn’t allow them to do that for doing something that everyone, at some point or another, does. If 343i doesn’t want to lose this very sizeable portion of their fanbase, they should get rid of the banhammer altogether, and demote players for quiting, or come up with another solution that, as I said before, doesn’t involve alienation of paying customers.
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> Paid to play under certain rules/conditions. You go to a movie theater and pay to see a movie; if you disrupt other people’s experience and get ejected from the theater, you don’t get a refund. Same principle in games.
> As for your ideas to replace the banhammer, quitting already does contribute to losing rank. Other solutions may be viable and could be explored in the future. But those sorts of things would waste more time/resources than just temp banning quitters. And you say yourself that quitters will never stop, so even other methods won’t get rid of it 100%. Banning is probably the worst kind of punishment that can be dished out (and the easiest), so it probably remains the most effective way of deterring quitters, even if it doesn’t work on everyone
Stupid example.
I paid to play a game.
i cannot play the game because they exclude people.
why ?
Because of the hammer.
ok !
Good!
No body told us that there is a hammer while i was purchasing, and if someone told me i would have never bought it.
i think to be clear !
and if you aren’t from 343I JUST fuckkk off ! because i am not here to waste my time with idiots !