I have quit one match in the last 3 or so months. Why the f%$#* am I banned? I didn’t even get banned until the match After the one I quit, a game we lost in sudden death, 49-50. So again, Why The F&%$* Am I Banned?
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> I have quit one match in the last 3 or so months. Why the f%$#* am I banned? I didn’t even get banned until the match After the one I quit, a game we lost in sudden death, 49-50. So again, Why The F&%$* Am I Banned?
Three DNFs in April.
At the point of you not being in the match anymore, all matches had your deaths far outnumber your kills, all matches were also a loss for the team.
Garbage garbage system. I back out of one game then after the next one is done I get banned for 8 hours like wow.
I was playing Grifball, accidentally killed a teammate (It’s Grifball, it happens), the guy boots me immediately. I go to join another game, the moment the game loads in my team loses. I then get a message that I am banned for griefing. That was the first time I was ever booted for betrayals and I get banned for it? Not to mention the ban didn’t happen until after a game it shouldn’t have even put me into in the first place. And it is Grifball, why can I even get booted and banned in the first place, unless maybe I had numerous team kills, not two, which were both accidents. This ban system really needs to get fixed.
I turn on my xbox and im banned in Halo AGAIN for the 3rd time in a row for Griefing in Grifball. The 1st time i went to kill the ball carrier and i ended up hitting my team by mistake and banned. 2nd time i finish a game all is well and banned. 3rd time i turn on my xbox and BANNED, For 19+ hours. I think it is ridiculous that accidentally killing your teamates and them kicking you out of a game is a bannable offense. The third time? I have no idea why i was banned. Grifball should NOT have hammer bans since its a bit of an aggressive game and betrayals happen all of the time. Need i mention i only bought Halo 5 because i heard grifball was coming back? I would like my ban gone and it would be nice to see the Grifball ban system gone.
I hit submit twice by mistake… .
MY BAN HAS YET TO BE LIFTED.
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> > Wwooooaaa I had to leave one game and I get a 8 min ban…not long but beside the point…now before all you Mods out there say I must have been afk or leaving other games…let me make it clear I do and did not. It is my first ban and I have read may posts about lenght, reasons and what not BUT this seems a like stupid and just annoys people who enjoy Halo as a game. If the ban hammer is going to fall this hard many people with start to get fed up with the game as a whole.
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> I went back to the first of April and found four DNFs, which isn’t that horrible, I’ve had more in a shorter time span and not gotten banned.
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> So I checked the stats, all but the first ones had you at negative KD. Now bear in mind I do not say you rage quit, I just think it’d be logical for the banhammer to do so.
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> I do think the banhammer makes a difference between disconnects and quitting. Like, if you use the leace option it weighs more than a disconnect. After that I think it measures your score and team score relative to others at the time of you leaving the match. As we also have a delay on the actual sentence, it might even look at the end result of the match, that’s open for speculation though.
So and I have asked this before…where exactly did you get the DNF stats??? Also ban hammer measure your team stats against you?? Isn’t that a little ludicrous (yes I can’t spell). Some people just enjoy playing and if you happen to be in a losing streak…and I think everyone has them…all of a sudden you may get a kick…then bam…your on stand down. I think it should be based on your career while playing halo. Not just a few weeks.
As for negative KD…that shouldn’t be used against a customer…that’s like saying because I drove a car in reverse it needs a wheel clamp for ten minutes.
Ban Hammer should only be used in excessive quits, inappropriate conduct and multipul betrayals (excluding Grif). Using stats is something you would use IF you wanting championship types of games. Not for the multitude of players that enjoy a product like Halo.
I was playing Team Arena against tryhards. All of a sudden I lag offline and get a message from one of the guys I was pllaying say “haha bye”. Then I get back on xbox. I have a banhammer for 8 hours. That dorsnt make sense. How can I stop someone from DDoSing me ? Then I get the punishment? Its ridiculous. Please respond. My gamertag is Demon xo
48 hr ban for a betrayal in grifball… love it
48 hr ban for a betrayal in grifball… love it
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> > > Wwooooaaa I had to leave one game and I get a 8 min ban…not long but beside the point…now before all you Mods out there say I must have been afk or leaving other games…let me make it clear I do and did not. It is my first ban and I have read may posts about lenght, reasons and what not BUT this seems a like stupid and just annoys people who enjoy Halo as a game. If the ban hammer is going to fall this hard many people with start to get fed up with the game as a whole.
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> > I went back to the first of April and found four DNFs, which isn’t that horrible, I’ve had more in a shorter time span and not gotten banned.
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> > So I checked the stats, all but the first ones had you at negative KD. Now bear in mind I do not say you rage quit, I just think it’d be logical for the banhammer to do so.
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> > I do think the banhammer makes a difference between disconnects and quitting. Like, if you use the leace option it weighs more than a disconnect. After that I think it measures your score and team score relative to others at the time of you leaving the match. As we also have a delay on the actual sentence, it might even look at the end result of the match, that’s open for speculation though.
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> So and I have asked this before…where exactly did you get the DNF stats??? Also ban hammer measure your team stats against you?? Isn’t that a little ludicrous (yes I can’t spell). Some people just enjoy playing and if you happen to be in a losing streak…and I think everyone has them…all of a sudden you may get a kick…then bam…your on stand down. I think it should be based on your career while playing halo. Not just a few weeks.
> As for negative KD…that shouldn’t be used against a customer…that’s like saying because I drove a car in reverse it needs a wheel clamp for ten minutes.
> Ban Hammer should only be used in excessive quits, inappropriate conduct and multipul betrayals (excluding Grif). Using stats is something you would use IF you wanting championship types of games. Not for the multitude of players that enjoy a product like Halo.
If you go back a few pages you’ll also find my answer to that question. Through your game history, which is public to everyone logged in. I can view every single match you’ve entered. That is also posted in the very opening post in this thread.
I said I think it may check stats, as it looks for patterns in quitting, and I do think it distinguishes between disconnects and proper leaving throigh the menu or dashboarding to quit the game. I also think you misunderstood me, not your score compared to others, the score of your team against the other team, perhaps even what the result of the match is at the end. Also, only for matches that you did not finish. It’d be ridiculous to have completed matches where you lost with horrible stats count towards bans.
Rage quitting comes in basically three forms, team doing poorly but not you, you’re doing poorly or both at the same time. All of these somewhat trackable through stats of your team and you. So if you have for instance many games where you left by quitting and your team is down a few points, or your KD is really negative, or both, it’s logical to assume that you rage quit a lot.
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> > > > Wwooooaaa I had to leave one game and I get a 8 min ban…not long but beside the point…now before all you Mods out there say I must have been afk or leaving other games…let me make it clear I do and did not. It is my first ban and I have read may posts about lenght, reasons and what not BUT this seems a like stupid and just annoys people who enjoy Halo as a game. If the ban hammer is going to fall this hard many people with start to get fed up with the game as a whole.
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> > > I went back to the first of April and found four DNFs, which isn’t that horrible, I’ve had more in a shorter time span and not gotten banned.
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> > > So I checked the stats, all but the first ones had you at negative KD. Now bear in mind I do not say you rage quit, I just think it’d be logical for the banhammer to do so.
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> > > I do think the banhammer makes a difference between disconnects and quitting. Like, if you use the leace option it weighs more than a disconnect. After that I think it measures your score and team score relative to others at the time of you leaving the match. As we also have a delay on the actual sentence, it might even look at the end result of the match, that’s open for speculation though.
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> > So and I have asked this before…where exactly did you get the DNF stats??? Also ban hammer measure your team stats against you?? Isn’t that a little ludicrous (yes I can’t spell). Some people just enjoy playing and if you happen to be in a losing streak…and I think everyone has them…all of a sudden you may get a kick…then bam…your on stand down. I think it should be based on your career while playing halo. Not just a few weeks.
> > As for negative KD…that shouldn’t be used against a customer…that’s like saying because I drove a car in reverse it needs a wheel clamp for ten minutes.
> > Ban Hammer should only be used in excessive quits, inappropriate conduct and multipul betrayals (excluding Grif). Using stats is something you would use IF you wanting championship types of games. Not for the multitude of players that enjoy a product like Halo.
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> If you go back a few pages you’ll also find my answer to that question. Through your game history, which is public to everyone logged in. I can view every single match you’ve entered. That is also posted in the very opening post in this thread.
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> I said I think it may check stats, as it looks for patterns in quitting, and I do think it distinguishes between disconnects and proper leaving throigh the menu or dashboarding to quit the game. I also think you misunderstood me, not your score compared to others, the score of your team against the other team, perhaps even what the result of the match is at the end. Also, only for matches that you did not finish. It’d be ridiculous to have completed matches where you lost with horrible stats count towards bans.
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> Rage quitting comes in basically three forms, team doing poorly but not you, you’re doing poorly or both at the same time. All of these somewhat trackable through stats of your team and you. So if you have for instance many games where you left by quitting and your team is down a few points, or your KD is really negative, or both, it’s logical to assume that you rage quit a lot.
Thanks for clearing up the area to check stats.
As for that last section on “rage quitting” it would seem illogical to use assumptions to use a ban hammer. There would really need to be a very clear picture of this happening and as each game you would be playing with a new group of people (excluding fireteams) for it to be used correctly. I just feel that they really need to look how ban hammer is applied and especially to veterans of the game (which should also be trackable).
I have been playing Halo since the beginning and NEVER HAD SUCH A BAD EXPERIENCE UNTIL THESE STUPID BAN UPDATE…I get banned for having a glitchy game, accidentally betrayed team mate, I decide to go check my internet, stay idles for a few minutes…since I cant even play the right way…so I see I get banned but I see no message or notice of what reason or when it ends,etc…I had to come here and try to get a answer…if this is the future of online gaming I’M READY TO GIVE YOU GUYS ALL A BIG MIDDLE FINGER and be out…-Yoink- holding my account hijacked for some -Yoink- I didnt do on purpose or what their stupid computer program tells them…computers and algorithms arent -Yoink-…FIX IT!!
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> > > > > Wwooooaaa I had to leave one game and I get a 8 min ban…not long but beside the point…now before all you Mods out there say I must have been afk or leaving other games…let me make it clear I do and did not. It is my first ban and I have read may posts about lenght, reasons and what not BUT this seems a like stupid and just annoys people who enjoy Halo as a game. If the ban hammer is going to fall this hard many people with start to get fed up with the game as a whole.
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> > > > I went back to the first of April and found four DNFs, which isn’t that horrible, I’ve had more in a shorter time span and not gotten banned.
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> > > > So I checked the stats, all but the first ones had you at negative KD. Now bear in mind I do not say you rage quit, I just think it’d be logical for the banhammer to do so.
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> > > > I do think the banhammer makes a difference between disconnects and quitting. Like, if you use the leace option it weighs more than a disconnect. After that I think it measures your score and team score relative to others at the time of you leaving the match. As we also have a delay on the actual sentence, it might even look at the end result of the match, that’s open for speculation though.
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> > > So and I have asked this before…where exactly did you get the DNF stats??? Also ban hammer measure your team stats against you?? Isn’t that a little ludicrous (yes I can’t spell). Some people just enjoy playing and if you happen to be in a losing streak…and I think everyone has them…all of a sudden you may get a kick…then bam…your on stand down. I think it should be based on your career while playing halo. Not just a few weeks.
> > > As for negative KD…that shouldn’t be used against a customer…that’s like saying because I drove a car in reverse it needs a wheel clamp for ten minutes.
> > > Ban Hammer should only be used in excessive quits, inappropriate conduct and multipul betrayals (excluding Grif). Using stats is something you would use IF you wanting championship types of games. Not for the multitude of players that enjoy a product like Halo.
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> > If you go back a few pages you’ll also find my answer to that question. Through your game history, which is public to everyone logged in. I can view every single match you’ve entered. That is also posted in the very opening post in this thread.
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> > I said I think it may check stats, as it looks for patterns in quitting, and I do think it distinguishes between disconnects and proper leaving throigh the menu or dashboarding to quit the game. I also think you misunderstood me, not your score compared to others, the score of your team against the other team, perhaps even what the result of the match is at the end. Also, only for matches that you did not finish. It’d be ridiculous to have completed matches where you lost with horrible stats count towards bans.
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> > Rage quitting comes in basically three forms, team doing poorly but not you, you’re doing poorly or both at the same time. All of these somewhat trackable through stats of your team and you. So if you have for instance many games where you left by quitting and your team is down a few points, or your KD is really negative, or both, it’s logical to assume that you rage quit a lot.
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> Thanks for clearing up the area to check stats.
> As for that last section on “rage quitting” it would seem illogical to use assumptions to use a ban hammer. There would really need to be a very clear picture of this happening and as each game you would be playing with a new group of people (excluding fireteams) for it to be used correctly. I just feel that they really need to look how ban hammer is applied and especially to veterans of the game (which should also be trackable).
Well you are quitting either way. I can’t say if it does or doesn’t measure personal stats to assume anything. Sure it can be coincidense that you quit out to eat only when your stats are bad, then again that’d be a statistical anomaly.
The banhammer looks for patterns in leaving, how it does that is up for speculation on our part. I do think there’s very little information out on the banhammer other than what we’ve seen through anecdotal stories from players. There’s however a reason why we have next to no information about it, and that is abuse. Had we more information what it look for or if it weighs differently between situations, people would have an easier time going around it.
Reach atleast sent out warnings, which I think should be implemented. We don’t know if it ever resets, which I think should be informed to us, if it does reset, the criteria for the reset should also be released to us.
There’s a lot of things we could have trackable by the banhammer, problem is that the more information used the more complex it becomes, and suddenly something can go wrong.
Yes, they should probably change how the banhammer applies to things. We however have no clue how it works, we can’t really say how it should be done as anything we suggest now may actually be in use.
I just look at game histories, check stats and come to my own conclusion as to why someone may be banned. I doubt I use the same reasoning the banhammer does, and I’m biased with my opinions as to why someone should be banned. That’s however it.
I have no personal grief with the banhammer, but I do think other systems should be explored like changing the reward system and/or make those who qualify for bans play against each other without rewards and tracked stats for a brief amount of games.
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> Garbage garbage system. I back out of one game then after the next one is done I get banned for 8 hours like wow.
About ten DNF matches since the start of this month.
Banhammer is known to have a delay of at least one game. My guess is due to data processing taking time.
Long ban times indicate it’s not a first offense.
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> I turn on my xbox and im banned in Halo AGAIN for the 3rd time in a row for Griefing in Grifball. The 1st time i went to kill the ball carrier and i ended up hitting my team by mistake and banned. 2nd time i finish a game all is well and banned. 3rd time i turn on my xbox and BANNED, For 19+ hours. I think it is ridiculous that accidentally killing your teamates and them kicking you out of a game is a bannable offense. The third time? I have no idea why i was banned. Grifball should NOT have hammer bans since its a bit of an aggressive game and betrayals happen all of the time. Need i mention i only bought Halo 5 because i heard grifball was coming back? I would like my ban gone and it would be nice to see the Grifball ban system gone.
I guess the second ban which was after a finished game, was after leaving / disconnecting a match prior to the one you finished as tge banhammer is known to have a delay.
Third ban could be that you left or disconnected a match, played another and then quit. So you never saw when it arrived, you just got on the Xbox in the middle of the ban.
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> I was playing Team Arena against tryhards. All of a sudden I lag offline and get a message from one of the guys I was pllaying say “haha bye”. Then I get back on xbox. I have a banhammer for 8 hours. That dorsnt make sense. How can I stop someone from DDoSing me ? Then I get the punishment? Its ridiculous. Please respond. My gamertag is Demon xo
I’d imagine you can check if your router has been DDoSed by looking at the security log of it, or traffic history. Or contacting your ISP and see if they see any traces of an attack. Then again, can you acquire another player’s IP when the match happens on a dedicated server? I haven’t researched the subject very deeply.
It is also just possible that you got disconnected from the server, your ISP did something to its servers or your router updated or any otherwise unrelated things that can cause a sudden disconnect happened. Then the player just sent you a mocking message.
So did it completely offline, from XBL as well? If so, how did you get a message immediately afterwards?
Longer ban times indicate it’s not a first offense.
Just wanted to throw in my two sense worth concerning the banhammer and Griffball. I understand that there are some people that will go crazy with the team killing, but it seems inevitable that betrayals will happen in Griffball. I was playing with a friend Sunday night, we had just switched over from Battlefront to catch a couple games of Halo. He ended up getting booted from the one person on our team not in our fireteam and was then banned from arena for 2hrs. Just seems a little dumb that you get banned for Griffball grievances. Still would want the ability to boot someone if they are team killing, but don’t see the need for the ban.
Grifball betrayal bans are NOT needed and should be pulled from the system. Betrayals have always been allow in grifball because it happens almost all the time.
I keep getting kicked out of games saying that my fire team has left and I’m not in a fire team! I even got banned earlier because if this problem and I never quit games, what the hell is going on? It’s making me so mad!
Total of 3 DNF over the last month spanning 250+ Arena games. On a minimum of 1, maybe 2 I was kicked from the game or not allowed to start the game. Another I quit immediately after it had booted members of my fire team out. On the latest kick it gave me a 15 minute Arena ban. The time wasn’t for very long but that is an absolute joke. Literally every single warzone and arena btb game I play has multiple people quitting and I stay in. This is exactly the kind of thing that pushes me to never buy another title from them. When I get booted because their servers are terrible and constantly having issues with the req system it is ridiculous.