The official Halo 5 "Why was I banned?" thread

Several times after a warzone match, had to use the restroom. But the game more often then not wont let you quit untill it is to late. Literally felt very ill from the discomfort and ban stress both. Then to many lost connection with server, once in the middle of assainating the Warden, very hard to do u know. Not trying to be dis agreeable, but I know of very few who care if anyone quits warzone. So I do not see any logic or compasion here. Now I also would hate to be 343 as banning based on DB stats often creates an inaccurate profile. I have never been banned but support had me quit 3 times, asked them if they wanted to get me banned. Aswer by support Quote: No one gets banned for quiting. Now I knew better and they are a none 343 or MS call center but most dont know. Please respectfully correct the support on banning. Thanking you in advance. Take care and be well 343, I really like you!

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> I have been banned a few times after completing a game. I have not quit any games. My gamer record says I have a perfect record. I have even finished countless 4 v 1 or 4 v 2 games just so I don’t get banned and then I still get banned anyway. It says I lost connection right after the game finishes and then I’m banned. Please fix this

3 of your last 10 are DNFs.

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> But is it possible for you to make it so that when you get kicked bc of the servers it doesn’t count as a quit?

A poor connection is on the list of ban hammer bait offences.

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> > > Will being disconnected by lagging out of a game cause a ban, or count against me, aside from losing whatever XP or RP boost I had used?
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> > Yes it will. Just got banned for 13 minutes (a minor inconvenience, but a ban nonetheless) for lagging out of 3 games. I assume the bans become increasingly harsh each time the banhammer comes down, but I’m not certain. Until 343 can find a way to distinguish between good faith disconnects and intentional quitting - and factor that distinction into their player conduct algorithm - your best bet is to address any potential network issues after the first time you disconnect from a game.
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If the system had a way to positively distinguish between intentional and good faith disconnects, then a system based on ā€œred flagsā€ would not be necessary. Let’s take your scenario in which a player has disproportionately disconnected from games in which he/she was losing. If the system makes determinations on a ā€œred flagā€ basis, then it is only taking into account 2 facts: (1) that the player has been disconnecting from games; and (2) that the player’s disconnects occur more often when the player is losing. A ā€œred flagā€ system would calculate that it is more likely than not that this player is intentionally disconnecting, but - at most - it can only imply that this player is behaving in such a manner from the information we have. Such a system cannot be certain that the player is acting in bad faith, regardless of how many disconnects have occurred and the correlation between disconnects and losing matches.

A system which could positively distinguish between good faith disconnects and quitting would not need to rely on ā€œred flagsā€ or implication. Instead, it would sort out those who experience connection issues from those who intentionally quit games with 100% accuracy, and only ban the quitters. Halo 5’s current algorithm, as you noted, is a ā€œred flagā€ system. As such, it necessarily cannot distinguish between players who quit and players who unintentionally disconnect. It can only make an estimation on a case-by-case basis.

Please I have never quit myself as explained above. But why ban anyone for that in WZ? Not many care even a little. Banning bad players is very much appreciated by me allot. Please dont ban anyone for droppig out of WZ. to many flaws and the void is always filled. I dont get why it is done at all since I would bet 40% of DB quites are out of the players control. Thank you,;~}BTW. not 100% sure but a DB count and red flag generally arent algos but simple count.

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> Please I have never quit myself as explained above. But why ban anyone for that in WZ? Not many care even a little. Banning bad players is very much appreciated by me allot. Please dont ban anyone for droppig out of WZ. to many flaws and the void is always filled. I dont get why it is done at all since I would bet 40% of DB quites are out of the players control. Thank you,;~}BTW. not 100% sure but a DB count and red flag generally arent algos but simple count.

You see all the threads about kill farming. It’s a lot harder to defend a base or push when your down a man or two. Warzone has Join-in-progress but you aren’t instantly replaced when you leave. I’ve seen many games finish with players down. You quit you have an effect on how the game plays.

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> > Please I have never quit myself as explained above. But why ban anyone for that in WZ? Not many care even a little. Banning bad players is very much appreciated by me allot. Please dont ban anyone for droppig out of WZ. to many flaws and the void is always filled. I dont get why it is done at all since I would bet 40% of DB quites are out of the players control. Thank you,;~}BTW. not 100% sure but a DB count and red flag generally arent algos but simple count.
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> You see all the threads about kill farming. It’s a lot harder to defend a base or push when your down a man or two. Warzone has Join-in-progress but you aren’t instantly replaced when you leave. I’ve seen many games finish with players down. You quit you have an effect on how the game plays.

Thank you my Halo family, but WZ farming is abannable offense as the games directive is win asap which means no farming. C what I mean bt flawed banning. Really the farmer is the bad guy, right my friend. I wrote many posts about farming JTLUK,ok. I sujjest afew plyers spwn a warthog and running over these lowly core spawn killers. It is also fun. But many dont understand why these so called farmors should go and be banned first, right my friend,;~}

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> > > Please I have never quit myself as explained above. But why ban anyone for that in WZ? Not many care even a little. Banning bad players is very much appreciated by me allot. Please dont ban anyone for droppig out of WZ. to many flaws and the void is always filled. I dont get why it is done at all since I would bet 40% of DB quites are out of the players control. Thank you,;~}BTW. not 100% sure but a DB count and red flag generally arent algos but simple count.
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> > You see all the threads about kill farming. It’s a lot harder to defend a base or push when your down a man or two. Warzone has Join-in-progress but you aren’t instantly replaced when you leave. I’ve seen many games finish with players down. You quit you have an effect on how the game plays.
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> Thank you my Halo family, but WZ farming is abannable offense as the games directive is win asap which means no farming. C what I mean bt flawed banning. Really the farmer is the bad guy, right my friend. I wrote many posts about farming JTLUK,ok. I sujjest afew plyers spwn a warthog and running over these lowly core spawn killers. It is also fun. But many dont understand why these so called farmors should go and be banned first, right my friend,;~}

It’s not bannable. It’s not going to kick you out of a Match for getting too many kills

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> > > > Please I have never quit myself as explained above. But why ban anyone for that in WZ? Not many care even a little. Banning bad players is very much appreciated by me allot. Please dont ban anyone for droppig out of WZ. to many flaws and the void is always filled. I dont get why it is done at all since I would bet 40% of DB quites are out of the players control. Thank you,;~}BTW. not 100% sure but a DB count and red flag generally arent algos but simple count.
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> > > You see all the threads about kill farming. It’s a lot harder to defend a base or push when your down a man or two. Warzone has Join-in-progress but you aren’t instantly replaced when you leave. I’ve seen many games finish with players down. You quit you have an effect on how the game plays.
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> > Thank you my Halo family, but WZ farming is abannable offense as the games directive is win asap which means no farming. C what I mean bt flawed banning. Really the farmer is the bad guy, right my friend. I wrote many posts about farming JTLUK,ok. I sujjest afew plyers spwn a warthog and running over these lowly core spawn killers. It is also fun. But many dont understand why these so called farmors should go and be banned first, right my friend,;~}
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Somewhere 343 and an XB moderator said it somewhere and was, not me. It is logical and the mission is to win asap, not spawn kill. You cant disagree with that , right? Why shouldnt they ban players not trying to achieve the mission directive afterall red team went after the MC for just missing role call so it does fit, lol my friend,;~}

This is something that really needs to be fixed or polished. I hadn’t played halo for around a week and after 2 hours of playing i quit one game and get banned. Many of my friends have the same problem and it just doesn’t seem to have any real algorithm to how it bans people even though you said it does. So please redesign the banning system or something.

Hello my friend, I said Ididnt think it uses an algo. It is astat in a DB and depending you may get red flagged by a unreliable DB. Then your profile based one simple numbers could get you banned more. The stat DB doesnt know if you were dced or quit or had to use the restroom. To me this is way more plaueable then a needless algo. Still dont know why some think it is an algo as opposed to a simple stat like amarine kill. Bad players need to be banned, and it seems a fairly large amount get banned for getting dced in many cases by the game server. Yes I feel it needs to take other things into account, but that is were Imas guilty as the rest, no workable solution, Take care my friend,;~}

This is amazing… we have an official thread for this… lol

I’m happy this was posted cause it can help those who had bans and didn’t deserve it but I’m honestly tired of seeing threads about getting banned cause they did nothing wrong and there is solid proof backing why they were banned or just quit posting it and get over the fact you failed to play the game the way it was intended to be played instead post about how the graphic quality went down hill from Halo 4 or even Halo 2 An. or how the advertising was opposite of how the actual story arc went.

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HEY so go -Yoink- yourself if i wanna leave a game cuz i wasnt having fun then im going to. And you -Yoinking!- ban me from playing anything. -Yoink- this game. If i was a rich -Yoink- id already have everything by throwing money at you.
You -Yoinking!- -Yoink- Yoinking! on your fans who want to play the game but if they have bad connections or reality to attend to you ban them.
At first didnt do -Yoink-. But ive been playing for awhile now and why the -Yoink- should i be forced to sit through every game?
So i leave one and im banned for 3 hours. Suck a -Yoink- 343.

I don’t know…

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> > > > > Please I have never quit myself as explained above. But why ban anyone for that in WZ? Not many care even a little. Banning bad players is very much appreciated by me allot. Please dont ban anyone for droppig out of WZ. to many flaws and the void is always filled. I dont get why it is done at all since I would bet 40% of DB quites are out of the players control. Thank you,;~}BTW. not 100% sure but a DB count and red flag generally arent algos but simple count.
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> > > Thank you my Halo family, but WZ farming is abannable offense as the games directive is win asap which means no farming. C what I mean bt flawed banning. Really the farmer is the bad guy, right my friend. I wrote many posts about farming JTLUK,ok. I sujjest afew plyers spwn a warthog and running over these lowly core spawn killers. It is also fun. But many dont understand why these so called farmors should go and be banned first, right my friend,;~}
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> Somewhere 343 and an XB moderator said it somewhere and was, not me. It is logical and the mission is to win asap, not spawn kill. You cant disagree with that , right? Why shouldnt they ban players not trying to achieve the mission directive afterall red team went after the MC for just missing role call so it does fit, lol my friend,;~}

We’ll how else will the Achilles grind be shortened? Winning fast games won’t do that

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I quit one mother–Yoinking!- game after 3 days and you ban me for 9 hours. What the -Yoink- is this, you guys are really a complete garbage gaming company. I hope to god you guys don’t make halo 6. Pitiful trash this game has become under your command. I regret buying this game this month, along with my $400 xb1 which was only for halo 5, what a bad decision…
Change this ban time you stupid morons of 343, you quit one game after 20+ games and 3 days, its automatic 9 hour - 24 hour ban.
Wow, i think im gonna talk to my lawyer to sue u guys. Its like robbing people of their $60 and much more.

To all those in here and wondering:

Quote: ā€œIf the banhammer detects enough wrongdoing, you were doing wrong.ā€

Enough said.

THANK YOU, its about time someone posted this

I’m lagging out of a lot of games… No ban yet, not asking for one…

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> I quit one mother–Yoinking!- game after 3 days and you ban me for 9 hours. What the -Yoink- is this, you guys are really a complete garbage gaming company. I hope to god you guys don’t make halo 6. Pitiful trash this game has become under your command. I regret buying this game this month, along with my $400 xb1 which was only for halo 5, what a bad decision…
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> Change this ban time you stupid morons of 343, you quit one game after 20+ games and 3 days, its automatic 9 hour - 24 hour ban.
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> Wow, i think im gonna talk to my lawyer to sue u guys. Its like robbing people of their $60 and much more.

You’ve quit 4 out of your last 10.