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> Can you say with 100% certainty that never ever any individual player has been disconnected from Halo 5 due to anything server-side?
No, but I’d rather a wide net be cast than one too small. I’m confident that such cases are few and far enough between that it’s effectivley negligible on the population as a whole. It doesn’t do 343 any good to block players from playing for no reason, after all.
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> I’m confident that such cases are few and far enough between that it’s effectivley negligible on the population as a whole.
This statement is also true for victims of gun violence or victims of fatal aircraft accidents but I am certain you would want everything possible to prevent the innocent from harm. And again, I could care less about the guilty ones 
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> This statement is also true for victims of gun violence or victims of fatal aircraft accidents but I am certain you would want everything possible to prevent the innocent from harm. And again, I could care less about the guilty ones
There is no loss of life occurring here. Those comparisons are extremely exaggerated and have nothing to do with each other. A temporary ban on someone who may have not actually done anything wrong is a minor annoyance at worst. Don’t make a mountain out of a molehill.
Besides, those comparisons aren’t even that accurate. A more apt comparison would be a child getting an early curfew because other kids in the neighborhood have been causing trouble after dark.
Also, keep in mind, like I’ve said before, that the number of “habitual quitters” is very low.
It’s more like, everyone quits, just not very often. But when everyone quits, you will commonly run into it. Not because there’s this big group of habitual quitters, but because the probability of you running into a normal, non-habitual quitters who just happens to quit that game, is high.
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> Also, keep in mind, like I’ve said before, that the number of “habitual quitters” is very low.
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> It’s more like, everyone quits, just not very often. But when everyone quits, you will commonly run into it. Not because there’s this big group of habitual quitters, but because the probability of you running into a normal, non-habitual quitters who just happens to quit that game, is high.
I disagree very strongly with the above statement.
I place a marker on every gt I encounter quitting.
If your above statement is accurate I would very rarely to hardly ever find such a player quitting again.
However, that is not the case. Even on the same day I run into the same habitual quitters multiple times.
What are the odds for that?
Wouldn’t you agree that when I encounter another player who quits in all 3 matches (regardless whether the same or opposite team) he’s in with me that it is very likely that this player is quitting more than just those 3 games and that it is very likely that this is a habitual quitter?
And I am not talking about a statistical anomaly because I encounter such behavior almost every day.
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> > Also, keep in mind, like I’ve said before, that the number of “habitual quitters” is very low.
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> > It’s more like, everyone quits, just not very often. But when everyone quits, you will commonly run into it. Not because there’s this big group of habitual quitters, but because the probability of you running into a normal, non-habitual quitters who just happens to quit that game, is high.
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> I disagree very strongly with the above statement.
> I place a marker on every gt I encounter quitting.
> If your above statement is accurate I would very rarely to hardly ever find such a player quitting again.
> However, that is not the case. Even on the same day I run into the same habitual quitters multiple times.
> What are the odds for that?
> Wouldn’t you agree that when I encounter another player who quits in all 3 matches (regardless whether the same or opposite team) he’s in with me that it is very likely that this player is quitting more than just those 3 games and that it is very likely that this is a habitual quitter?
> And I am not talking about a statistical anomaly because I encounter such behavior almost every day.
Your tiny data set is irrelevant. You are disagreeing with actual data and what I already said is what the data actually look like.
So what?
Will our ban end when the seasson ends?
When the seasson ends?
Hi
My party and I were all banned for 14 days.
We just finished a game (which we lost) and then went to start a new game. We all have been banned. I don’t know what happened or why. My gf and I both live together and play in separate rooms and another friend plays from home. Would really appreciate some assistance with this ban. Please help 
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> Hi
> My party and I were all banned for 14 days.
> We just finished a game (which we lost) and then went to start a new game. We all have been banned. I don’t know what happened or why. My gf and I both live together and play in separate rooms and another friend plays from home. Would really appreciate some assistance with this ban. Please help
2 week bans are usually a punishment for manipulating the matchmaking/ranking system. You can find more info here: https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/58b8518e005f432381ab99fbcaf931e0/topics/matchmaking-and-ranking-manipulation-bans/33494f76-41cc-4090-b537-01a46582f88f/posts.
EDIT: We finally got a message, it was for “idling”. Though he doesn’t idle unless caring for his kid. Nonetheless, problem solved, bean has been lifted.
My friend just started playing Halo 5, and is now level 27. We just hopped on for some evening infection and its saying he’s banned from Halo 5. He doesn’t have a message or anything saying why he was banned. His gamertag is mercwithamouth88. No idea why he was banned
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> > > > > > > > > Alright. So I have been banned. For intentionally ruining the fun for others? I mean halo has been having issue kicking out players at matchmaking and its happened to me. But I haven’t left enough for a ban. Also I am getting 2 weeks ban?
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> > > > > > > > That’s not why you would get a 2-week ban with that message. This looks like you were either deranking on one of your gamertags, or you were partying with someone else who was deranking. Both cases ruin the game for others.
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> > > > > > > I did make a couple of accounts but it was for my friend and my sister. I let them play on it. whenever they wanted. Sure they would “derank” because I would also play and show them how to play. But in that situation I wouldn’t think that would cause me to get banned. But in that situation why ban my main account? I mean I don’t care about those accounts. Since it was for them. They don’t have an Xbox.
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> > > > > > I doubt that has anything to do with it since this was you in a Fireteam with a player. If they don’t have an Xbox, then you couldn’t party with them and this can’t really be related.
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> > > > > > This is from you partying with a player who had just gone and thrown 25+ matches and then started playing “for real” with you in the FireTeam. When this happens, both the deranker and those in the deranker’s party will receive temp bans from the banning system for ruining the game for the players that the deranker allowed them to incorrectly play against.
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> > > > > Wow. thats like 50% of the players I play with? I have friends who will get 0 kills unintentionally. because Halos ranking system isn’t exactly perfect. they match either with highly skilled players or the exact opposite. So I get penalized for my teammate? Does that make sense? I have been playing with what you call unskilled players and been trying to help them get better. So I am sure they are all playing “for real”. Not only that. What exactly is ruining the game for the players? that’s very questionable. I mean seriously theres only teamkills but I play Swat and some super fiesta so thats out the door since theres no teamkill. Suicides will automatically kick you out. Also how do I stop a player from “ruining the game for the players”?
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> > > > Uh, no, this is clearly not the occasional hard match causing low kill counts. The ban system compensates for unfair matches, so doing poorly because of an unfair match has nothing to do with this ban.
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> > > > This is a player making a brand new alt, clearly throwing 25+ matches in a row with 0 or 1 kill only, and then dropping 25 kills against even BETTER opponents than their last 25 where they could only get 1 kill at most.
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> > > > That is clearly a player that is intentionally throwing 25+ matches in order to get easier matches afterwards. This ruins the game for all 25*7= 175 other players in those matches the player threw.
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> > > > That player then partied with you and another friend, resulting in a match that was much easier than it should have been because they have intentionally lowered their skill rating, but since that player was actually much better than their rating, they got 25 kills, and you and your friend also have a much easier match than you should have.
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> > > > Which means the people you played against got destroyed when they should have gotten an easier match, which ruins the match for at least those 4+ players in that first match.
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> > > > You did this for at least 1 other match, meaning at least 8 players had to play against much harder opponents than they should of had to.
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> > > > This leads to higher quit rates and higher attrition – the players that experience this end up quitting out or they stop playing, all because your friend wanted unfairly easier matches.
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> > > > None of which is acceptable.
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> > > > Playing with bad friends who do poorly is absolutely fine.
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> > > > Playing with friends who have intentionally thrown 25+ matches so they can -Yoink!- on noobs with you will get you and them banned every time.
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> > > I am glad you said that haha. So in this case we are not talking about murder. So it would be you are in a car and your friend had weed. You can’t be charged with the crime. Even if its 3 people who had it. You walk free and only the responsible people are accounted for. Regardless if you knew or not. Because you are not responsible for their actions. See and that’s what I am saying.
Just an FYI from a Paralegal here: please don’t ever actually try to use that as an excuse. If you are in a car with other people, and cops find drugs in the car, every single person can (and will) be charged with possession. The law would be pretty pointless if all drug traffickers had to do was get >1 person in a car, so that they can both claim ignorance and walk away without penalty.
That said, it is a very fitting analogy here; consider your fireteam the people in the car, and the deranking is a big ol’ bucket of drugs. You all “benefit” from that bucket-o-drugs, just like you all benefit from easier matches. So claiming that you were just an innocent passenger that just happened to land upon this good fortune completely unintentionally is a terribly pathetic lie.
It all makes sense though: you think you wouldn’t get charged for that crime in those circumstances, just like you think you shouldnt get banned here. At least you are consistent in your severely flawed reasoning!
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Why is it that in the last few weeks I’ll be playing in a match and suddenly the game freezes for maybe 5 to 10 seconds then the loading screen and then a message that the game was interrupted and then kicks back out to the main screen. When I try to start a new match it says a player in my party has been banned? This has happened many times now. It’s TOTAL BULL. if 323, microcrap and whom ever is involved in the auto ban can’t code it right they need a new job. Just saying. If it don’t work can it or fix it because you are -Yoink!- alot of paying customers off.
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> Hi
> My party and I were all banned for 14 days.
> We just finished a game (which we lost) and then went to start a new game. We all have been banned. I don’t know what happened or why. My gf and I both live together and play in separate rooms and another friend plays from home. Would really appreciate some assistance with this ban. Please help
I looked at your history and while you might have been playing normally, it looks like you partied up with a Bronze 4 smurf account that suddenly started carrying your team. That is a bannable offense.
I am going to be unbanned at the beginning of June after 160 days so i have gladfully have no use to this Thread anymore 
I got banned for absolutely zero reason, and I have the evidence to prove that I did nothing as well. I was just playing Ranked Slayer for the Mixer Matchup on smashgg and I did not tk, suicide, leave matches, nothing. I’d really appreciate a ban lift since I received a 14 day ban for no reason
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> I got banned for absolutely zero reason, and I have the evidence to prove that I did nothing as well. I was just playing Ranked Slayer for the Mixer Matchup on smashgg and I did not tk, suicide, leave matches, nothing. I’d really appreciate a ban lift since I received a 14 day ban for no reason
If you were banned for 14 days you likely need to have a read through this thread, those are generally handed out for attempts to manipulate matchmaking or something of that ilk.
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/58b8518e005f432381ab99fbcaf931e0/topics/matchmaking-and-ranking-manipulation-bans/33494f76-41cc-4090-b537-01a46582f88f/posts
I read through it and I still don’t know why I got a ban. I played on my account only and averaged 12-15 kills for my games, with the exception of very few games I did really well in
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> I read through it and I still don’t know why I got a ban. I played on my account only and averaged 12-15 kills for my games, with the exception of very few games I did really well in
I checked the banning system’s logs. The ban was because an alt (name withheld) joined a FireTeam and played several games with a player that had intentionally deranked, resulting in several blowouts.
If you play with derankers, you get banned as well.
Listen i really did get banned from lagging out and not only that but for two weeks!! Please check my game history i swear i do not desearve to be banned like this. I live in an area were we cant get good internet and it frequently has been disconnecting recently! I have been a dedicated halo player for a long time and never done anything that should result in this kind of punishment! I mean im lvl 150 why would i leave games now all of a sudden. So pleae look at my informatin and lift my ban. Ive been grinding halo every day just to try and make champ on the ranking system and loseing rank every time i lagg out and lose rank is plenty enough punishment dont you think? This two week banned is way too much please dont let this go threw i know you all will do the right thing. If anything shorten the ban to like 3 days but half a month is horrible! Ima miss out on btb ranked playlist at this rate :’o
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> Listen i really did get banned from lagging out and not only that but for two weeks!! Please check my game history i swear i do not desearve to be banned like this. I live in an area were we cant get good internet and it frequently has been disconnecting recently! I have been a dedicated halo player for a long time and never done anything that should result in this kind of punishment! I mean im lvl 150 why would i leave games now all of a sudden. So pleae look at my informatin and lift my ban. Ive been grinding halo every day just to try and make champ on the ranking system and loseing rank every time i lagg out and lose rank is plenty enough punishment dont you think? This two week banned is way too much please dont let this go threw i know you all will do the right thing. If anything shorten the ban to like 3 days but half a month is horrible! Ima miss out on btb ranked playlist at this rate :’o
Checking the ban logs, same thing as the last question. The system didn’t ban you for idling, it banned you for joining a fireteam with a deranker and getting a super easy match out of it, ruining the game for those player who should not have played against your Fireteam.
Your friend had thrown near 20 matches.
Again, if you party with a player who has deranked, thus getting everyone easy matches against noobs, you will all be banned.