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> Banned for falling off the map 3 times on super fiesta. First time ever being banned, only bought the game to play multiplayer with my friends and family. Think this is pretty ridiculous to say the least. Wasted money.
Intentional suicides are a form of griefing, the system can’t tell if you do it on purpose or by accident. First time bans are very short (couple minutes) but they double every time after that.
I’m confused as to why this system is actually in place. Sure I get that this inevitably lightens the load on the super duper awesome dedicated servers that work so well (heavy sarcasm intended), but it seems the vast majority of normal players can’t even get into a game with no lag. When you join a game and can’t even shoot half the enemy team because their characters are constantly skipping around, what else are you supposed to do? Take the loss? Lose every game because of latency? Or take the more reasonable route and just quit out and find a new game? Oh but wait you can’t do that, quit out of 2 games and you’re banned.
Halo 5 multiplayer literally seems as if it was made to push players away more than add to what was once a thriving community. I started playing when halo 2 was first released and got hooked, and don’t even get me started on halo 3. Those were the games that offered quality matchmaking, but now it seems to be more of an exclusive few who have the privilege of playing matchmade games with low latency, equal skill matching, and not being banned. I have trouble even finding anybody in my local community anymore that still plays Halo for these reasons.
quits game for lag ban
accidentally shot a teammate ban
critisizes halo ban
sneezes ban
scratches head ban
I was banned for betraying two teammates in war zone fire fight. They literally jumped in front of my ghost. Banned for the last 15 minutes. The US justice system is more forgiving than this.
My game froze multiple times while loading the map today so I had to restart the game. I also idled out of one match becaue it was 4 on 2 in favor of my team and a few minutes left so I went to the bathroom. I don’t know why I was banned. I didn’t even know I could be removed for going away for a few minutes after I had been playing in the match and scoring. I don’t know how long I am banned for or for what behaior. What is going on? Your game crashes and you count that as a quit? That’s not fair. Someone help. I’ve been playing Halo since Halo: CE on the original Xbox and I am now banned for nothing.
How do I get banned for 8 hours and 42 minutes for Idling in 1 game? That ban length is ridiculous let a lone being banned for that. I rarely idle and only quit games when players on my team quit before me.
I hate to complain, but this suicide ban stuff in PVP is not cool, nor is it going to make you any fans.
I got temp banned for unintentionally falling off map while fighting in a very tricky area…an area you would expect unintended deaths.
I was doing well and contributing to our team who was doing well. This ban is way to sensitive and to sweaty try hard. I play Halo to have fun, not get berated and pushed around. Save this silliness for MLG.
EDIT: Map was Damnation. In tricky water area.
Same as Apollo…
Very funny…
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> I’m confused as to why this system is actually in place.
Because it benefits the majority of people in matchmaking by providing consequences for the negative actions of a few.
> quits game for lag ban
> accidentally shot a teammate ban
> critisizes halo ban
> sneezes ban
> scratches head ban
The most common reasons for bans are idling, excessive dnfs, and griefing. Beyond that you go into attempts to manipulate matchmaking or network etc.
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> I was banned for betraying two teammates in war zone fire fight. They literally jumped in front of my ghost. Banned for the last 15 minutes. The US justice system is more forgiving than this.
It takes three betrayals for a boot unless you have a history of the behavior.
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> My game froze multiple times while loading the map today so I had to restart the game. I also idled out of one match becaue it was 4 on 2 in favor of my team and a few minutes left so I went to the bathroom. I don’t know why I was banned. I didn’t even know I could be removed for going away for a few minutes after I had been playing in the match and scoring. I don’t know how long I am banned for or for what behaior. What is going on? Your game crashes and you count that as a quit? That’s not fair. Someone help. I’ve been playing Halo since Halo: CE on the original Xbox and I am now banned for nothing.
Idling will get you a ban. Excessive DNFs will as well. The system can tell if you voluntarily quit or if you disconnected. It can’t tell if that disconnect was intentional so in order to prevent a massive loophole it treats every dnf the same in social.
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> How do I get banned for 8 hours and 42 minutes for Idling in 1 game? That ban length is ridiculous let a lone being banned for that. I rarely idle and only quit games when players on my team quit before me.
If you were banned for 8 hours and 42 minutes you’ve been banned many, many times before. Bans start off at a couple of minutes and basically double with each infraction.
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> I hate to complain, but this suicide ban stuff in PVP is not cool, nor is it going to make you any fans.
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> I got temp banned for unintentionally falling off map while fighting in a very tricky area…an area you would expect unintended deaths.
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> I was doing well and contributing to our team who was doing well. This ban is way to sensitive and to sweaty try hard. I play Halo to have fun, not get berated and pushed around. Save this silliness for MLG.
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> Same as Apollo…
> Very funny…
Excessive suicides have been used as a form of griefing going back quite a number of years. In order to curb that behavior suicides were added to the bannable offenses. You need three suicides in a relatively short period of time before you get booted though which isn’t going to ever get hit by most players.
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> > I was banned for betraying two teammates in war zone fire fight. They literally jumped in front of my ghost. Banned for the last 15 minutes. The US justice system is more forgiving than this.
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> > My game froze multiple times while loading the map today so I had to restart the game. I also idled out of one match becaue it was 4 on 2 in favor of my team and a few minutes left so I went to the bathroom. I don’t know why I was banned. I didn’t even know I could be removed for going away for a few minutes after I had been playing in the match and scoring. I don’t know how long I am banned for or for what behaior. What is going on? Your game crashes and you count that as a quit? That’s not fair. Someone help. I’ve been playing Halo since Halo: CE on the original Xbox and I am now banned for nothing.
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> Idling will get you a ban. Excessive DNFs will as well. The system can tell if you voluntarily quit or if you disconnected. It can’t tell if that disconnect was intentional so in order to prevent a massive loophole it treats every dnf the same in social.
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> > How do I get banned for 8 hours and 42 minutes for Idling in 1 game? That ban length is ridiculous let a lone being banned for that. I rarely idle and only quit games when players on my team quit before me.
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> If you were banned for 8 hours and 42 minutes you’ve been banned many, many times before. Bans start off at a couple of minutes and basically double with each infraction.
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> > I hate to complain, but this suicide ban stuff in PVP is not cool, nor is it going to make you any fans.
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> > I got temp banned for unintentionally falling off map while fighting in a very tricky area…an area you would expect unintended deaths.
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> > I was doing well and contributing to our team who was doing well. This ban is way to sensitive and to sweaty try hard. I play Halo to have fun, not get berated and pushed around. Save this silliness for MLG.
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> > Same as Apollo…
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> Excessive suicides have been used as a form of griefing going back quite a number of years. In order to curb that behavior suicides were added to the bannable offenses. You need three suicides in a relatively short period of time before you get booted though which isn’t going to ever get hit by most players.
There are at least two of us right here in a short period of time complaining about something that should not really ever happen to most players…and I’m sure most folks don’t bother to post at all when this happens …perhaps they don’t feel they will be heard or that they will be made fun of. I assure you I don’t grief my fellow gamers. I’m a fan like many others who enjoy the game for relaxation and socializing with other fans. I think the bans can be a bit unfair and blindly dish out punishment. When this happens there should be no surprise when people feel offended and attempt to let Microsoft know they feel there’s a problem. Sometimes just listening is all that is need to help a fan and customer.
Edited : Map was Damnation. There are tricky water areas in which you must jump and shoot going across several obstacles to get grenades and such. For example, I engage someone here or they engage me, I get the kill but fall after in doing so…or simply fall during the mayhem. Fun map, just tricky around the water, but it seems to have been designed to provide this challenge.
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> There are at least two of us right here in a short period of time complaining about something that should not really ever happen to most players…and I’m sure most folks don’t bother to post at all when this happens
Two people out of thousands of players in a place where people are sent to discuss their bans?
> …perhaps they don’t feel they will be heard or that they will be made fun of.
No one has been made fun of. If the truth hurts that can’t be helped.
> I assure you I don’t grief my fellow gamers
You may not, that doesn’t change the fact that excessive suicides have been used as a method of griefing. In H5 they can make their team go to a max of -3 before a boot. Which is better than -50 or - 100. Do a few brand new or bronze level players get caught and banned? Yeah, that’s going to happen, but much like the disconnect and actual quits the collateral damage is acceptable to prevent the really bad stuff. I’d be willing to bet that one or two onyx level players have a horribly bad game and get a boot.
> . I’m a fan like many others who enjoy the game for relaxation and socializing with other fans. I think the bans can be a bit unfair and blindly dish out punishment. When this happens there should be no surprise when people feel offended and attempt to let Microsoft know they feel there’s a problem. Sometimes just listening is all that is need to help a fan and customer.
I answer questions in this thread, explain how the system works, and prove when people are being dishonest. That’s the ‘service’ I provide here. You’re welcome to vent, but people are allowed (and are likely) to respond.
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> > There are at least two of us right here in a short period of time complaining about something that should not really ever happen to most players…and I’m sure most folks don’t bother to post at all when this happens
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> You may not, excessive suicides have been used as a method of griefing. In H5 they can make their team go to a max of -3 before a boot. Which is better than -50 or - 100. Do a few brand new or bronze level players get caught and banned? Yeah, that’s going to happen, but much like the disconnect and actual quits the collateral damage is acceptable to prevent the really bad stuff.
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> > . I’m a fan like many others who enjoy the game for relaxation and socializing with other fans. I think the bans can be a bit unfair and blindly dish out punishment. When this happens there should be no surprise when people feel offended and attempt to let Microsoft know they feel there’s a problem. Sometimes just listening is all that is need to help a fan and customer.
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> I answer questions in this thread, explain how the system works, and prove when people are being dishonest. That’s the ‘service’ I provide here. You’re welcome to vent, but people are allowed (and are likely) to respond.
My comment was intended to reach folks in a position to consider changing the ban sensitivity for suicides…particularly on certain maps (Damnation) prone to unintended deaths.
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> > You may not, excessive suicides have been used as a method of griefing. In H5 they can make their team go to a max of -3 before a boot. Which is better than -50 or - 100. Do a few brand new or bronze level players get caught and banned? Yeah, that’s going to happen, but much like the disconnect and actual quits the collateral damage is acceptable to prevent the really bad stuff.
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> > > . I’m a fan like many others who enjoy the game for relaxation and socializing with other fans. I think the bans can be a bit unfair and blindly dish out punishment. When this happens there should be no surprise when people feel offended and attempt to let Microsoft know they feel there’s a problem. Sometimes just listening is all that is need to help a fan and customer.
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> > I answer questions in this thread, explain how the system works, and prove when people are being dishonest. That’s the ‘service’ I provide here. You’re welcome to vent, but people are allowed (and are likely) to respond.
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> My comment was intended to reach folks in a position to consider changing the ban sensitivity for suicides…particularly on certain maps (Damnation) prone to unintended deaths.
The thought process behind those tricky areas is to reward those that are good with obstacles and punish those that aren’t. No one forces players into those areas on the maps.
Banned for idling when my system wouldn’t let me exit matchmaking. I kept trying to exit and I just couldn’t and now I’m banned. Besides the obvious injustice of being punished for something that wasn’t my fault, I can’t find out how I check to see when my ban is up. How do I check the timer on my ban? Really, it’s the least you can do…
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> Banned for idling when my system wouldn’t let me exit matchmaking. I kept trying to exit and I just couldn’t and now I’m banned. Besides the obvious injustice of being punished for something that wasn’t my fault, I can’t find out how I check to see when my ban is up. How do I check the timer on my ban? Really, it’s the least you can do…
You only get a time when the message pops up, no way to know after that.
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> > > > . I’m a fan like many others who enjoy the game for relaxation and socializing with other fans. I think the bans can be a bit unfair and blindly dish out punishment. When this happens there should be no surprise when people feel offended and attempt to let Microsoft know they feel there’s a problem. Sometimes just listening is all that is need to help a fan and customer.
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> > > I answer questions in this thread, explain how the system works, and prove when people are being dishonest. That’s the ‘service’ I provide here. You’re welcome to vent, but people are allowed (and are likely) to respond.
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> > My comment was intended to reach folks in a position to consider changing the ban sensitivity for suicides…particularly on certain maps (Damnation) prone to unintended deaths.
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> The thought process behind those tricky areas is to reward those that are good with obstacles and punish those that aren’t. No one forces players into those areas on the maps.
I agree… a challenge with intended consequences. My point exactly. Thanks!
Why isn’t there a way to check ban time other than the first message? I’m fine with bans,but it doesn’t make any sense that you can only see the time on the first message,and that’s it, no way at all to check it.
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> Why isn’t there a way to check ban time other than the first message? I’m fine with bans,but it doesn’t make any sense that you can only see the time on the first message,and that’s it, no way at all to check it.
It’s displayed in the initial ‘banhammer strikes’ message. If you reset your console sometimes it’ll resend the message. Initial bans are short (a couple of minutes) and they just about double with each subsequent infraction.
What are the forums for halo 5?
someone help me?
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> What are the forums for halo 5?
If you need help with an in-game ban, this is the correct place to post - though you should read the first post in the topic
If you need any other help with Halo 5, please start a new topic here unless there is already a recently active topic about your issue:
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/e0d9938206f04a598ce84f2c8cadce02/topicsAdditionally, in future, please don’t post multiple times in a row. Thanks