The official Halo 5 "Why was I banned?" thread

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> > > > I idled one game because my team was gone.
> > > > So what am i supposed to do play 1v4 ??
> > > > Quitting is not an option because it will count as a quit?
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> > > If it was a ranked game than there isn’t a quit penalty if you’ve had a teammate leave already.
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> > Literally banned for idling one game…
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> You know you aren’t supposed to idle. If you leave the controller with no input for three minutes you will be booted and banned. I’m not sure what you’re looking for.

Yes, this is 3/10 of most arena matches(or close to it) but it seems like a small amount of time to me.

Was just banned for the first time for idling in BTB thanks to their poor user design. After a game ends, if you navigate to a different app, like Netflix, make sure you manually push B and back out, otherwise they’ll ban you. It’s very poor user design, and I guess the BanHammer is a way for them to try to “justify” it by blindly grouping you with all other banned players (justification by simplification, common logical fallacy). I also can’t see the duration of my ban because I missclicked when the banhammer modal was show. All I could see was “banhammer” before the model was dismissed. Another case of poor user design. So that’s Negative 2 on the user design and negative 1 on the logic. Somebody needs to look in the mirror and accept their poor design, and it’s not bungie.

I would not be surprised if this developer starts banning people when their batteries die.

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> Was just banned for the first time for idling in BTB thanks to their poor user design. After a game ends, if you navigate to a different app, like Netflix, make sure you manually push B and back out, otherwise they’ll ban you. It’s very poor user design, and I guess the BanHammer is a way for them to try to “justify” it by blindly grouping you with all other banned players (justification by simplification, common logical fallacy). I also can’t see the duration of my ban because I missclicked when the banhammer modal was show. All I could see was “banhammer” before the model was dismissed. Another case of poor user design. So that’s Negative 2 on the user design and negative 1 on the logic. Somebody needs to look in the mirror and accept their poor design, and it’s not bungie.
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> I would not be surprised if this developer starts banning people when their batteries die.

You could have alternatively closed the game, perhaps?

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> Was just banned for the first time for idling in BTB thanks to their poor user design. After a game ends, if you navigate to a different app, like Netflix, make sure you manually push B and back out, otherwise they’ll ban you. It’s very poor user design, and I guess the BanHammer is a way for them to try to “justify” it by blindly grouping you with all other banned players (justification by simplification, common logical fallacy). I also can’t see the duration of my ban because I missclicked when the banhammer modal was show. All I could see was “banhammer” before the model was dismissed. Another case of poor user design. So that’s Negative 2 on the user design and negative 1 on the logic. Somebody needs to look in the mirror and accept their poor design, and it’s not bungie.
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> I would not be surprised if this developer starts banning people when their batteries die.

Should a mechanic be implemented where an action happens each time a player moves to another app, for every situation that can happen in the game?

Sure, it sucks that Halo 5 does not register when you jump from Halo 5 to another app when you’ve finished a match and didn’t put in the proper inputs to leave the search que. It’s however also convenient if I want to quickly check something without leaving the search que.

Do you mean the Banhammer screen? Not model?
If it’s your first ban it shouldn’t be long.

You know, your Xbox informs you when the batteries of the controller is low on energy. It’s also your responsability to see to them being charged. So yes, they will ban you for dead batteries if you can’t get your controller going after the Idle-time limit.

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> > Was just banned for the first time for idling in BTB thanks to their poor user design. After a game ends, if you navigate to a different app, like Netflix, make sure you manually push B and back out, otherwise they’ll ban you. It’s very poor user design, and I guess the BanHammer is a way for them to try to “justify” it by blindly grouping you with all other banned players (justification by simplification, common logical fallacy). I also can’t see the duration of my ban because I missclicked when the banhammer modal was show. All I could see was “banhammer” before the model was dismissed. Another case of poor user design. So that’s Negative 2 on the user design and negative 1 on the logic. Somebody needs to look in the mirror and accept their poor design, and it’s not bungie.
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> > I would not be surprised if this developer starts banning people when their batteries die.
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> Should a mechanic be implemented where an action happens each time a player moves to another app, for every situation that can happen in the game?
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> Sure, it sucks that Halo 5 does not register when you jump from Halo 5 to another app when you’ve finished a match and didn’t put in the proper inputs to leave the search que. It’s however also convenient if I want to quickly check something without leaving the search que.
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> Do you mean the Banhammer screen? Not model?
> If it’s your first ban it shouldn’t be long.
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> You know, your Xbox informs you when the batteries of the controller is low on energy. It’s also your responsability to see to them being charged. So yes, they will ban you for dead batteries if you can’t get your controller going after the Idle-time limit.

No one said moving to another app has to be handled in every situation. If anyone is suggesting that from my text, then they are taking part in a textbook strawman fallacy. It only needs to be handled in a very specific case. Player is in the lobby, searching for a match, maybe even by themselves; it’s literally one if statement in the callback for when the app backgrounds to exit from the match making search.

I meant to type banhammer “modal”, as in the term modal: a layer of UI that is displayed over the base UI that can be dismissed: essentially the first message that appears right when you’ve been banned. I miss clicked when it appeared and only could see it briefly. The ban was short, but it was not an ideal use case to have to look/post on a forum to attempt to find the duration left due to a simple miss click. Especially since it was my first halo 5 ban ever, it left me initially confused.

Good information to know about the batteries, from the other design, it’s not surprising. But since it’s not an environmental friendly policy, I’ll run my batteries dry and be sure to keep extras near and ready.

As for closing the app the instead of backing out through B. I’m not sure, that may work too, but maybe not either. Better back out with B to be on the safe side.

I still stand by my initial analysis, poor design. Fallacious justifications aside, it requires manually action when none should be required. Banning for that is why I consider it poor.

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> > > Was just banned for the first time for idling in BTB thanks to their poor user design. After a game ends, if you navigate to a different app, like Netflix, make sure you manually push B and back out, otherwise they’ll ban you. It’s very poor user design, and I guess the BanHammer is a way for them to try to “justify” it by blindly grouping you with all other banned players (justification by simplification, common logical fallacy). I also can’t see the duration of my ban because I missclicked when the banhammer modal was show. All I could see was “banhammer” before the model was dismissed. Another case of poor user design. So that’s Negative 2 on the user design and negative 1 on the logic. Somebody needs to look in the mirror and accept their poor design, and it’s not bungie.
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> > > I would not be surprised if this developer starts banning people when their batteries die.
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> > Should a mechanic be implemented where an action happens each time a player moves to another app, for every situation that can happen in the game?
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> > Sure, it sucks that Halo 5 does not register when you jump from Halo 5 to another app when you’ve finished a match and didn’t put in the proper inputs to leave the search que. It’s however also convenient if I want to quickly check something without leaving the search que.
> >
> > Do you mean the Banhammer screen? Not model?
> > If it’s your first ban it shouldn’t be long.
> >
> > You know, your Xbox informs you when the batteries of the controller is low on energy. It’s also your responsability to see to them being charged. So yes, they will ban you for dead batteries if you can’t get your controller going after the Idle-time limit.
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> No one said moving to another app has to be handled in every situation. If anyone is suggesting that from my text, then they are taking part in a textbook strawman fallacy. It only needs to be handled in a very specific case. Player is in the lobby, searching for a match, maybe even by themselves; it’s literally one if statement in the callback for when the app backgrounds to exit from the match making search.
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> I meant to type banhammer “modal”, as in the term modal: a layer of UI that is displayed over the base UI that can be dismissed: essentially the first message that appears right when you’ve been banned. I miss clicked when it appeared and only could see it briefly. The ban was short, but it was not an ideal use case to have to look/post on a forum to attempt to find the duration left due to a simple miss click. Especially since it was my first halo 5 ban ever, it left me initially confused.
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> Good information to know about the batteries, from the other design, it’s not surprising. But since it’s not an environmental friendly policy, I’ll run my batteries dry and be sure to keep extras near and ready.
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> As for closing the app the instead of backing out through B. I’m not sure, that may work too, but maybe not either. Better back out with B to be on the safe side.
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> I still stand by my initial analysis, poor design. Fallacious justifications aside, it requires manually action when none should be required. Banning for that is why I consider it poor.

I get your point, but no one is committing any fallacies here. If it was strawman, he would have blown it WAY out of proportion.

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> > > > Was just banned for the first time for idling in BTB thanks to their poor user design. After a game ends, if you navigate to a different app, like Netflix, make sure you manually push B and back out, otherwise they’ll ban you. It’s very poor user design, and I guess the BanHammer is a way for them to try to “justify” it by blindly grouping you with all other banned players (justification by simplification, common logical fallacy). I also can’t see the duration of my ban because I missclicked when the banhammer modal was show. All I could see was “banhammer” before the model was dismissed. Another case of poor user design. So that’s Negative 2 on the user design and negative 1 on the logic. Somebody needs to look in the mirror and accept their poor design, and it’s not bungie.
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> > > > I would not be surprised if this developer starts banning people when their batteries die.
> > >
> > > Should a mechanic be implemented where an action happens each time a player moves to another app, for every situation that can happen in the game?
> > >
> > > Sure, it sucks that Halo 5 does not register when you jump from Halo 5 to another app when you’ve finished a match and didn’t put in the proper inputs to leave the search que. It’s however also convenient if I want to quickly check something without leaving the search que.
> > >
> > > Do you mean the Banhammer screen? Not model?
> > > If it’s your first ban it shouldn’t be long.
> > >
> > > You know, your Xbox informs you when the batteries of the controller is low on energy. It’s also your responsability to see to them being charged. So yes, they will ban you for dead batteries if you can’t get your controller going after the Idle-time limit.
> >
> > No one said moving to another app has to be handled in every situation. If anyone is suggesting that from my text, then they are taking part in a textbook strawman fallacy. It only needs to be handled in a very specific case. Player is in the lobby, searching for a match, maybe even by themselves; it’s literally one if statement in the callback for when the app backgrounds to exit from the match making search.
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> > I meant to type banhammer “modal”, as in the term modal: a layer of UI that is displayed over the base UI that can be dismissed: essentially the first message that appears right when you’ve been banned. I miss clicked when it appeared and only could see it briefly. The ban was short, but it was not an ideal use case to have to look/post on a forum to attempt to find the duration left due to a simple miss click. Especially since it was my first halo 5 ban ever, it left me initially confused.
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> > Good information to know about the batteries, from the other design, it’s not surprising. But since it’s not an environmental friendly policy, I’ll run my batteries dry and be sure to keep extras near and ready.
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> > As for closing the app the instead of backing out through B. I’m not sure, that may work too, but maybe not either. Better back out with B to be on the safe side.
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> > I still stand by my initial analysis, poor design. Fallacious justifications aside, it requires manually action when none should be required. Banning for that is why I consider it poor.
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> I get your point, but no one is committing any fallacies here. If it was strawman, he would have blown it WAY out of proportion.

Actually it is, if someone is suggesting “every situation”. I carefully wrote “suggesting” as a condition the first time: “every situation” quantitatively, is infinite; with the benefit of a doubt, maybe it was an exaggeration, so realistically maybe it could be 5-30 different cases implied by the word “every”. Quantitatively, that’s still blown way out of proportion from one single case, especially considering the context for the time of having an engineer add those cases, maintain those cases through updates, testing the cases, and regression testing through updates. His wording was framed as a question, it was ambiguous whether Nasqer was claiming that or not, that’s why I specifically wrote “if someone is suggesting”.

Starting to veer off of ban discussion/ban related questions. Let’s try and get back on track.

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> Starting to veer off of ban discussion/ban related questions. Let’s try and get back on track.

Agreed, and my reasoning for not replying again.

15 HOUR BAN NOW. I have made a point to close my game out and NOT idle for the last week… it seems the last week I am being banned for Idle that is false. I don’t understand why this is broken… I am truly sick of being banned for a glitch in the broken system. Is anyone else having this issue? I know I must not be the only one! This has been a ongoing thing and I truly am at the point of doing away with Microsoft!

15 HOUR BAN NOW. I have made a point to close my game out and NOT idle for the last week… it seems the last week I am being banned for Idle that is false. I don’t understand why this is broken… I am truly sick of being banned for a glitch in the broken system. Is anyone else having this issue? I know I must not be the only one! This has been a ongoing thing and I truly am at the point of doing away with Microsoft!

15 HOUR BAN NOW. I have made a point to close my game out and NOT idle for the last week… it seems the last week I am being banned for Idle that is false. I don’t understand why this is broken… I am truly sick of being banned for a glitch in the broken system. Is anyone else having this issue? I know I must not be the only one! This has been a ongoing thing and I truly am at the point of doing away with Microsoft!

forget it as i will with this game

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> get ridd of the trash mods that are useless for real… I can clearly see none of them are any help.

If you are so unfriendly,noone help you.
And the monitors dont answer you instantly as they also have other,more important things to do.
If you already got an ban,the system will more likely boot you for smaller things faster.

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> 15 HOUR BAN NOW. I have made a point to close my game out and NOT idle for the last week… it seems the last week I am being banned for Idle that is false. I don’t understand why this is broken… I am truly sick of being banned for a glitch in the broken system. Is anyone else having this issue? I know I must not be the only one! This has been a ongoing thing and I truly am at the point of doing away with Microsoft!

Stop quiting games and you wont get banned. We can see your game history

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> 15 HOUR BAN NOW. I have made a point to close my game out and NOT idle for the last week… it seems the last week I am being banned for Idle that is false. I don’t understand why this is broken… I am truly sick of being banned for a glitch in the broken system. Is anyone else having this issue? I know I must not be the only one! This has been a ongoing thing and I truly am at the point of doing away with Microsoft!

The system isn’t broken. I’ve reviewed your last two DNF arena matches and you were idling through both of them.

This match on truth from yesterday
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/games/halo-5-guardians/xbox-one/mode/arena/matches/6c7ddf45-ea0d-4d67-b762-12269b310ef5/players/xxh0nkeyb0yxx?gameHistoryMatchIndex=9&gameHistoryGameModeFilter=Arena
Here is the video;
https://youtu.be/aV6a2lmlL0U.

And this match on Empire and this match on empire from today.
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/games/halo-5-guardians/xbox-one/mode/arena/matches/f2512da4-1e26-4f57-ac64-ffb5f57b7bc6/players/xxh0nkeyb0yxx?gameHistoryMatchIndex=0&gameHistoryGameModeFilter=Arena.

Here is the video;
https://youtu.be/rP4SuPZTtBM.

Also In the future please refrain from posting multiple times in a row. You can edit your posts to add data and quote/respond to multiple people in a single post.

I got banned after quitting a match but I can’t seem to find for how long will I be banned for.

It just says " At least one member of your squad has been banned from Halo 5: Guardians".

Does this mean a perma-ban?

I do accecpt I leave prematurely quite frequentely but it is because I get called by a family member o a job related call.

I don’t understand why was I banned while playing the Social playlist anyway.

I would like to get an answer about this. I finally got the chance to buy this game and I get banned 2 weeks after doing so.

Please give me an answer.

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> I got banned after quitting a match but I can’t seem to find for how long will I be banned for.
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> It just says " At least one member of your squad has been banned from Halo 5: Guardians".
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> Does this mean a perma-ban?
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> I do accecpt I leave prematurely quite frequentely but it is because I get called by a family member o a job related call.
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> I don’t understand why was I banned while playing the Social playlist anyway.
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> I would like to get an answer about this. I finally got the chance to buy this game and I get banned 2 weeks after doing so.
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> Please give me an answer.

You most likely pressed the A button one time too much and skipped the measage that tells you how long you have too wait.
The only thing you can do now is wait patiently.

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> I got banned after quitting a match but I can’t seem to find for how long will I be banned for.
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> It just says " At least one member of your squad has been banned from Halo 5: Guardians".
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> Does this mean a perma-ban?
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> I do accecpt I leave prematurely quite frequentely but it is because I get called by a family member o a job related call.
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> I don’t understand why was I banned while playing the Social playlist anyway.
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> I would like to get an answer about this. I finally got the chance to buy this game and I get banned 2 weeks after doing so.
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> Please give me an answer.

You have quit 31 of your last 84 games, if you get called away that frequently then xbox live might not be the best use of your time.

Banned for idling … I suggest you check, i always play the game I matched for … tell me how many times I did this and what times because I played every game that I joined that I can remember!!!