The official Halo 5 "Why was I banned?" thread

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> > > Hello, I’m SYN Brickster and I can not get on halo and I was just wondering why or if I was banned if so why?
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> > Did you receive a ‘banhammer strikes’ message flashing on the screen? Are you unable to enter a playlist because 'one or more members of your fireteam have been banned." ?
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> Just that when I try to go on it from the Xbox home page tells my EA access or my gold had been expired and I have alread you paid for gold and I don’t be have a EA access account I’ve already uninstalled and reinstalled

That doesn’t sound like a ban. You might want to contact microsoft support.

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> I hope 343 understand that if many players quit often that it is not the players fault but the developers. Players leaving games is a strong indicator that the ranking/matching system is not working properly or the server lag is really bad. I don’t get halo to get beat up in lopsided games or be lagging all over the map.

And then you get thrown into a match when the other team has a 300 point lead and holds 2 bases if not all three and we are supposed to get wrecked for the next 700 points of a Warzone game?

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> > I hope 343 understand that if many players quit often that it is not the players fault but the developers. Players leaving games is a strong indicator that the ranking/matching system is not working properly or the server lag is really bad. I don’t get halo to get beat up in lopsided games or be lagging all over the map.
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> And then you get thrown into a match when the other team has a 300 point lead and holds 2 bases if not all three and we are supposed to get wrecked for the next 700 points of a Warzone game?

300 point leads are easy depending on how many points they have. If they have less than 500, than you should be able to catch up quickly if you play it right. Otherwise, well, video games are just for fun really, so getting "REQ’ed isn’t really a big deal.

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> 300 point leads are easy depending on how many points they have. If they have less than 500, than you should be able to catch up quickly if you play it right. Otherwise, well, video games are just for fun really, so getting "REQ’ed isn’t really a big deal.

Let’s keep on topic, please. This is a thread for asking/answering questions related to the ban system.

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> The following FAQ should answer some of your questions about Halo 5 bans. We will update this FAQ as necessary.
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> **I received an in-game message saying I have been banned. Why?**If you are checking this page because of an in-game message, it is likely that you have been banned for violating the terms of use and/or committing a code of conduct violation. It is also possible, in the case of an especially egregious violation, that your Xbox One system itself is now banned from Matchmaking. The duration of this ban is based on the type, frequency or nature of the committed violation. In most cases, Custom Games will still be available. In extreme cases, they will not.
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> **How can I tell how long I was banned for?**Ban duration will be shown on the red ban screen as the ban hammer strikes. First offences are generally low and last only a few minutes, but will increase in duration incrementally with each subsequent ban. The ban timer itself displays times as follows -
> **Days : Hours : Minutes : Seconds****What types of actions can result in a ban?**Types of violation include, but are not limited to, the following example actions:
> - Modifying your Xbox One hardware or game software and services in any way. - Idling through games, habitual quitting/suiciding/betraying, or any other type of unsociable and unsportsmanlike behavior. - Impersonating a 343 Industries or Microsoft employee on Xbox LIVE with intent to defraud or cause harm to other players.Why was I banned for winning a match / quitting one match / quitting a custom game? __You weren’t. The ban system runs at least 1 game behind so your ban will have been placed for a previous offence. After completing your next event, whether it is a matchmaking game, custom game, forge session, spectating a friend or viewing theatre, the system will then show you a message telling you that you have been banned. As it takes more than a single offence to earn a ban you will never be banned for leaving one match, it will be multiple offences that have led to a ban being placed on your account.
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> **I shouldn’t be banned. My brother/sister/cousin/dad/mom/friend must’ve logged on with my account and done bad things. Will you please reverse my ban?**If this is indeed the case, we do understand your frustration. However, it is your sole responsibility to keep your account information secure and not share it with others who would abuse it. We have no way of detecting who is playing with your account, and if your gamertag is caught making naughty, you will be banned. Those are the rules.
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> **I didn’t do anything wrong, and you can’t prove it. Will you please reverse my ban?**Our automated system builds up a digital case of wrongdoing before any ban is enacted. If you accidentally disconnect a time or two, you won’t get banned. Instead the system looks for patterns that can’t happen accidentally. If the banhammer detects enough wrongdoing, you were doing wrong.
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> **Will posting in this thread guarantee my ban will be lifted and that someone will respond personally to every post?**Unfortunately, no. We simply don’t have enough eyes, ears and typing hands to respond to every single post. However, the community will help keep you honest. You have a public game history for everyone to see. If you post you were banned unjustly, the community is in their rights to check out your history to confirm or deny your claims.Please, just keep it clean.
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> The purpose of this thread is to keep all questions pertaining to bans in one place. Without a megathread for such questions, the rest of the forum will almost certainly turn into a cavalcade of ban questions.
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> If you were banned and think you have a case, this is the ONLY thread you should post in. If other moderators see posts pertaining to bans in other threads, they will either be deleted outright or a kind-hearted mod might just move the posts to this thread.
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> If any users are caught habitually spamming ban threads in other threads, we will consider that a violation of the forum Terms of Use. You will risk being banned here as well. We don’t want to have to ban anyone, but we do want an open, honest and positive place to post about all things Halo, so a thread like this is necessary.
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> Thanks in advance!
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What a huge thread!!!

The fact I was banned is ridiculous in the past 100 games I’ve only not finished 6. Why is the ban system such -Yoink- in Halo 5?

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> The fact I was banned is ridiculous in the past 100 games I’ve only not finished 6. Why is the ban system such -Yoink- in Halo 5?

3 out of your last 10 arena games are DNF, so it seems you’re trying to make yourself look a bit better with your data choice. A quick flurry of quits like that can activate the system.

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> > The fact I was banned is ridiculous in the past 100 games I’ve only not finished 6. Why is the ban system such -Yoink- in Halo 5?
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> 3 out of your last 10 arena games are DNF, so it seems you’re trying to make yourself look a bit better with your data choice. A quick flurry of quits like that can activate the system.

Trying to make myself look better? I’m giving a bigger data pool so that people understand why I think the ban is ridiculous.

I was banned after losing connection multiple times and having to quit once due to family issues

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> > > The fact I was banned is ridiculous in the past 100 games I’ve only not finished 6. Why is the ban system such -Yoink- in Halo 5?
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> Trying to make myself look better? I’m giving a bigger data pool so that people understand why I think the ban is ridiculous.

Yeah, but I’m pretty sure the ban system doesn’t pick from 100 games.

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> > Why was I banned when the first 3 games that I played in doubles my “partner” left the game as soon as it started. I left the game after that because I refuse to let my stats suffer due to someone else not staying in the game. This should not be a banning action. I should be reinstated asap. It is not my fault nor or is fair to force me to play a 1 v 2 match because my partner backed out before the match had even started.
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> You have a few DNF’s on your record. The game looks for patterns. You have DNFed three times on your first page. This is why you were banned

Then tell me why the game doesnt look for patterns for being betrayed and having your “partner” leave multiple games to counter your reasoning for leaving a game. Not to mention the horrible matchmaking that this game refuses to correct. Those issues that are beyond a player’s control should not result in said player being banned. That should be issues that 343 needs to rectify and address.

For me it’s not a matter of losing it’s a matter of getting absolutely bludgeoned by a completely mismatched team. If there’s a team of six inheritors that are all in a fire team together at 1 in the morning no fire team made of randoms is going to be able to do a damn thing. From what I’ve seen a team of randoms lose their inheritors and for runners and even their nobles right at the start of the game. So what I’m supposed to keep playing and just get beat down and spawn killed, never get any of the decent weapons and just be cannon fodder for a bunch of punk -Yoinks!- that fire team together knowing that they can bludgeon anyone in their path.
It seems to me that any group of people that want to put a fire team together should have to wait till a comprable team can be assembled. If there’s only 70 people in the lobby and you want to form a team with six inheritors good luck getting a game. Grow a pair, break your team in half, and have a real competition.
Aside from DDOSers, lag switchers, poor connections, modders, the most complaints that I’ve seen about any of these games is how bad the matchmaking is.
Instead of putting together fireteams based on Rank and connection speed it seems to me they should be put together based on statistical analysis of the k/d on the most recent five games played on that gamertag and the connection quality. This would reduce the opportunity for individuals with thousands of hours of GameTime and frail egos from starting new characters just so that they can beat the heck out of less-skilled players.
While they’re at it maybe they could create a friendly fire tracker and start booting the original person who intentionally follows someone on their team around shooting them in the back of the head to take their sniper rifle or keep them out of the race or whatever…
And this is why Destiny’s more fun.

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> …Aside from DDOSers, lag switchers, …, modders, …

Lag switching and modding aren’t possible in Halo 5. You can’t lag switch because the game uses dedicated servers and not P2P connection based matchmaking like older games. For modding, the Xbox One OS currently has no active exploits available meaning that neither the system or any games than run on it can be modified in a way that affects multiplayer games (so anything you consider an aimbot, is not an aimbot).

If you wish to discuss the matchmaking system further, the pinned feedback thread in the Matchmaking forums would be more appropriate, for now let’s keep this discussion to question and comments about in-game bans and the ban system.

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> > > Why was I banned when the first 3 games that I played in doubles my “partner” left the game as soon as it started. I left the game after that because I refuse to let my stats suffer due to someone else not staying in the game. This should not be a banning action. I should be reinstated asap. It is not my fault nor or is fair to force me to play a 1 v 2 match because my partner backed out before the match had even started.
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> Then tell me why the game doesnt look for patterns for being betrayed and having your “partner” leave multiple games to counter your reasoning for leaving a game. Not to mention the horrible matchmaking that this game refuses to correct. Those issues that are beyond a player’s control should not result in said player being banned. That should be issues that 343 needs to rectify and address.

The game does keep track of betrayals, and quitting, this is another reason to be banned. Quitting because someone else quit is not justified. If everyone jumped off a cliff, would you? The way I look at it, stay and try to win.(Memories of Reach). The matchmaking works most of the time, there are the few times where it is out, but this is not the thread on matchmaking.

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> > …Aside from DDOSers, lag switchers, …, modders, …
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> Lag switching and modding aren’t possible in Halo 5. You can’t lag switch because the game uses dedicated servers and not P2P connection based matchmaking like older games. For modding, the Xbox One OS currently has no active exploits available meaning that neither the system or any games than run on it can be modified in a way that affects multiplayer games (so anything you consider an aimbot, is not an aimbot).
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> If you wish to discuss the matchmaking system further, the pinned feedback thread in the Matchmaking forums would be more appropriate, for now let’s keep this discussion to question and comments about in-game bans and the ban system.

I didn’t realize this thread only concerned Halo 5. When I submitted my original post it was actually concerning reach and Halo 4. I was banned on 360 I believe for quitting poorly matched games with habitual betrayers.
In Halo 5 they’ve resolved quite a few issues. They still need to work on better matchmaking.
I agree that if gamers are frequently getting banned for quitting a game that they should be enjoying playing obviously they’re not having fun. If the purpose of software engineers work is to give us something to have fun doing and we’re quitting because it’s not fun it would appear to me that they have failed in their task. I bought Halo 5, I’ve played Halo 5, and I applaud them for solving many issues from their previous games. When someone in the game making community fixes the broken system that allows a wrecking crew to be matched with a bunch of us unskilled randoms maybe I’ll come back to playing matchmaking in the HALO Series.
I’m not willing to risk being given two options 1 get bludgeoned by poor matchmaking, or 2 get banned for quitting.

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> > > > Why was I banned when the first 3 games that I played in doubles my “partner” left the game as soon as it started. I left the game after that because I refuse to let my stats suffer due to someone else not staying in the game. This should not be a banning action. I should be reinstated asap. It is not my fault nor or is fair to force me to play a 1 v 2 match because my partner backed out before the match had even started.
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> The game does keep track of betrayals, and quitting, this is another reason to be banned. Quitting because someone else quit is not justified. If everyone jumped off a cliff, would you? The way I look at it, stay and try to win.(Memories of Reach). The matchmaking works most of the time, there are the few times where it is out, but this is not the thread on matchmaking.

Quitting because two of my teammates left before either team has 20 kill is perfectly justifiable. I’m not going to sit in a slow in boring game when I could be having actual fun in another one. Your comparison is terrible, if I quit and find a new match I’ll have a better time. This is not true of jumping off a cliff, I’d just be dead.

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> > > > > Why was I banned when the first 3 games that I played in doubles my “partner” left the game as soon as it started. I left the game after that because I refuse to let my stats suffer due to someone else not staying in the game. This should not be a banning action. I should be reinstated asap. It is not my fault nor or is fair to force me to play a 1 v 2 match because my partner backed out before the match had even started.
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> Quitting because two of my teammates left before either team has 20 kill is perfectly justifiable. I’m not going to sit in a slow in boring game when I could be having actual fun in another one. Your comparison is terrible, if I quit and find a new match I’ll have a better time. This is not true of jumping off a cliff, I’d just be dead.

No matter the reason.QUITTING IS QUITTING.No reason in the world can justify this.We all of had to go through situations like this.We’ve stuck to it.No matter how bad.Period.

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> > > > > > Why was I banned when the first 3 games that I played in doubles my “partner” left the game as soon as it started. I left the game after that because I refuse to let my stats suffer due to someone else not staying in the game. This should not be a banning action. I should be reinstated asap. It is not my fault nor or is fair to force me to play a 1 v 2 match because my partner backed out before the match had even started.
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> No matter the reason.QUITTING IS QUITTING.No reason in the world can justify this.We all of had to go through situations like this.We’ve stuck to it.No matter how bad.Period.

Wasn’t a system put in place whereby if a teammate has already left, you leaving wouldn’t contribute to any bans?

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> > > > > Why was I banned when the first 3 games that I played in doubles my “partner” left the game as soon as it started. I left the game after that because I refuse to let my stats suffer due to someone else not staying in the game. This should not be a banning action. I should be reinstated asap. It is not my fault nor or is fair to force me to play a 1 v 2 match because my partner backed out before the match had even started.
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> Quitting because two of my teammates left before either team has 20 kill is perfectly justifiable. I’m not going to sit in a slow in boring game when I could be having actual fun in another one. Your comparison is terrible, if I quit and find a new match I’ll have a better time. This is not true of jumping off a cliff, I’d just be dead.

Yes the comparison was exaggerated to make the point. If you choose to quit, then you are susceptible to being banned, and should not complain about being banned.