The official Halo 5 "Why was I banned?" thread

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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I just made a forum without knowing this forum was here.
So I’m here because I got banned…
It could have been suicides that caused my ban to happened, though I am not positive I was letting my younger brother play, but I was in the same room and I know he wasn’t doing anything bad or etc…
My question is this… I have an issue where when a rounds ends in Slayer, BTB, Swat, Warzone, etc I can’t always exit/ go back to the home Arena menu/ or warzone menu the proper way, I usually see the end game screen but with spartan with a “having problem loading” type of text. I have to end up quitting the game and reloading it to select a different type of game. Could the cause banning to happen? (Note: While this screen (the loading screen) is up I can’t not see what map will be played on next or either the players who are.

If it is the case, this is very unfair. It was only a 5 min ban, which I think is a little long, but not horrible. In any case, I never been banned before. It’s been about a week and a half since I really played but I use to quit games I got thrown into because they were unwinnable, (like 500 plus to 125). I just simply do not agree that players should be thrown into games that has the big of gap.

FYI: If i thought this ban was for quitting I would not be here. The Last DNF game that is showing up never showed up on my tv screen, it was still the ending game screen.

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> Hello, I have been banned for 3 days for ending a custom game. The game ran out of time after I was practicing some jumps on Plaza. I was then banned for 3 days! I would really like to enjoy Halo over the weekend, but this kind of stuff that keeps randomly occurring is absolute bs. For real please fix this issue. (Link of being banned after game) Gamer DVR - Xbox clips, Twitch clips and streams, Xbox screenshots, Xbox videos, Xbox DVR and more on Gamer DVR!

You have arouns 9 DNF matches in the last 10 days and lot more the further back in your service record that I look. To get a ban of that length means you need to have been banned quite a few times already, which your record supports. You ban won’t have been for leaving the custom game, likely the server has caught up with your last DNF match that would have triggered the ban and is now imposing the ban on you. Ban system runs at least 1 game behind, it’s not always an immediate swing.

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> Hello I received this
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> > The Banhammer Strikes
> > You have been placed on a cool down from warzone matchmaking for poor connection to the dedicated servers. Check www.halowaypoint.com/ban for more information. Your cool down will last for the following duration: 9:40
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> does anyone have any information that could help me understand why this is happening so I can prevent it in the future?

Reposting due to lack of response

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> > > > > Does the game really ban you for disconnecting? That really dosn’t sound right.
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> > > > It doesn’t distinguish between losing connection due to server problem or if someone unplug their Internet or xbox. Granted I’m sure there is a way to incorporate that but it could possibly have been a spendy addition.
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> > > No, there’s really no way to detect the difference between an honest lost connection vs. unplugging your router. That’s just life.
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> > well they can detect if you quit through the quit option. so i think that if they dont detect a quit and it was a disconnect of some kind, but their team was winning, it shouldn’t count because someone will not try to disconnect themselves when they are winning. and again, this is if it’s disconnection and not through quit. we were playing a CTF match today on Torque and we were winning 1 - 0 and than 1 guy left and we lost 1 - 3 and i said “why did you quit, we were winning” and he goes “i didnt, this is -Yoink- i was about 2 get the second flag and the game disconnected me”. seriously, no one quits a match on purpose by disconnecting when they are winning.
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> That’s just not true - people may be on the winning team but have a bad K/D and quit because they care more about KD than wins. They may be winning but get invited by a friend to a new game, and quit. They may get bored and turn off their XBone. Too many variables, just can’t figure out “intent” in a disconnect or quit. Only way to deal with it is to treat all quits/disconnects the same. Sucks for people who seem to honestly and accidentally disconnect more often, but that’s just how it goes… try to trouble shoot your connection and meanwhile 343 should help with that for people having disconnection problems.

but that is because they chose to quit. this is disconnection. joining someone would be a detected quit easily. and sorry but no one “gets bored” on a winning team and sacrifice a free win. and K/D people are -Yoinks!-, plain and simple. they should remove stats in general. or better yet, give us a choice. if you don’t play for stats you can choose to have no stats recorded and therefore if you lag out, its not going to effect you because you dont play for K/D i think stats are stupid and personally i would love to have them turned off. i think people that play for stats are actually noobs. most of those that care for K/D anyways go into WZ matches just to boost theirs. and before someone gets all butt hurt triggered, no im not saying everyone who plays WZ is a stat booster, there are just some that play to boost their stats. and just like cheaters, people that care about K/D will do anything to boost their k/d. Hell, instead maybe make it count -10 on k/d. i wouldn’t mind because i dont play for stats so if i get accidentally disconnected because servers failed, i will have one less thing to be mad about besides lagging out of a winning game.

and again with "Too many variables, just can’t figure out “intent” ya and the game can’t figure out if the server crashed or they quit but they count that on us. “oh but it doesn’t count 1 or 2 disconnects” wrong, it uses them as a statistic to later determine a ban so we get punished with DNFs and everyone thinks that person is a quitter when it was the servers fault. you guys put soooooo much into punishing people and you wonder why Halo isn’t as big as it is, you have an over the top banhammer that turns people off. even one of the most competitive FPS games that some people care about K/D and W/L etc allows people to quit, free of charge. that’s Battlefield. maybe instead of “omg i hate when people do ______ lets punish that. I hate when people do _______ as well and also ______ lets put more bans on them. Bans arent punishing enough. lets make the first offense a 1 month ban. No its not good enough now, make it 6 months for first offense. and 2 offense a year and than a perma ban” Lets take a history lesson. Lets go back to the days of Halo Reach when Bungie was in charge. They had the most ridiculous punishments for bans. lets not play nostalgia here of the happy memories. lets remember how bad the ban was. Remember how people said “oh the ban algorithm wasn’t wrong in reach, all you got punished deserved it” the brainwashed repeated that stuff over n over. and 343i came in and said “sorry no it isn’t. there is broken bits, something are just too ridiculous to ban them for. there are people getting wrongly banned and we have some many people getting banned it’s turning people away from Halo. We re-did the algorithm. and we removed some of the punishments and no longer the 1st strike 1 week, 2nd strike 1 month, 3rd strike a perma ban. All people who were perma ban were forgiven and the ban goes, 1 day, 1 week, 1 month and than after that its just 1 month” Seriously soooooo many people, like myself were getting wrongly banned. I had a friend play split screen in FFA and i got banned because it though i was cheating because i was wrecking my friend and the brown-nosers, who couldn’t admit the banhammer is at fault, said “well you shouldnt have a friend play that sucks that you kill alot in matchmaking” oh im sorry, i didnt know certain people wer4e not allowed to play a game. seriously, it builds a bad rep when a banhammer is being too -Yoink!- with its punishments. go back to something simple and easy not this “you wont no if that next game you quit you get banned.” thats dumb “we remember everything you did since you started playing” so no forgiveness from something from December and use that to determine a punishment in march. that’s ridiculous. say you get to quit 1 match without punishment. if you are winning and you drop out through connection, its not counted 1 time. if its a 3v4 or 2v4 you can have to option to vote forfeit or leave without being punished because its now an unbalanced match. yesterday, the game i talked about earlier on here, the went 3v4 and the guy that left got disconnected, he didnt want to leave we were winning and no one ever JIP the rest of the match so it was an unbalanced match. thats not fair and than being told “you have to spawn die spawn die spawn die to give the enemy free kills to boost their k/d because if you quit you get punished” that isn’t fair at all. no more “that’s just how it goes” to excuse the problems.

its like people said “oh holy ban hammer, you are perfect, no one can say anything is wrong with it”
“well actually here is a proble m i found _______”
“DEATH TO THE NON-BELIEVER”
“but this is a legitimate problem”
“well we cant fix it so that’s just how it goes”

And as stckrboy said, the game can detect the quit option. just not the purpose or accidental disconnection.

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and lastly, if it cant detect something, than it shouldn’t punish it. like suicides or TKs. it already has a punishment for TKs. you do it, what like 3 times, you get kicked from the game. but yet its going to count every TK since the game came out. undoubtedly the game is going to have a few after you have played this game almost half a year. if there was a way to tap into everyone’s profile i could find everyone has had a few TKs on accident. especially when you fire a rocket launcher at an enemy and your friend obviously sees it come but still tries to go in for a melee kill. In fact it shouldn’t even be punished. there was nothing you could do across the map about to hit an enemy with a deployed rocket and num nuts sees it coming but still goes for it. it’s his fault for not checking his surroundings and at the very last second, see someone and goes for it and gets caught in the blast. he deserves to die for his stupidity. really, i have seen a player in Halo MCC look at me across avalanche shoot at a tank, so you can imagine from 1 man cannon on 1 side to the other side after the arch divider area. you know how long that is. so i see a tank headed in my direction, and this noob takes the man cannon inside the middle area and pops out and tres to board the tank when its under the arch. i already fired in the spot, where if he continues to keep driving forward he will get hit by my rockets. and he doesnt decide to say “hey maybe i should sit back because that rocket will take it out” nopppppppeeeeee instead he tries to board because he wants to kill, there is literally nothing i can do at this point. and than he has the balls to message me asking “why did you kill me” i told him he got himself killed by me, he knows what he did. but of course the troll says “why didnt you make the rocket self destruct so it wouldnt hit me” so he knew what he was doing. and whether he knew what he was doing or not. i cant control what people do. especially on BTB games when people are in party chat. personally i which party chat was disabled in gameplay so people had to listen. back in Halo 3, before the party chat installation, people communicated a lot more. but now half or more are in party chat and wont leave. no one can communicate in BTB or big matches anymore. even small Team arenas too but BTB has it worse. they need to force communication back in like some games did so people have to chat. would be really nice is if you could vote to have people in party chat be forced into game chat or be able to force all players into a party chat. so they have to listen to you, rather than lose and than they get out of party chat and say “why did you guys lose” i want to scream sometimes and say “because we were trying to tell you not to go into there and you kept going because you wouldnt get out of party chat and listen”

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> I just made a forum without knowing this forum was here.
> So I’m here because I got banned…
> It could have been suicides that caused my ban to happened, though I am not positive I was letting my younger brother play, but I was in the same room and I know he wasn’t doing anything bad or etc…
> My question is this… I have an issue where when a rounds ends in Slayer, BTB, Swat, Warzone, etc I can’t always exit/ go back to the home Arena menu/ or warzone menu the proper way, I usually see the end game screen but with spartan with a “having problem loading” type of text. I have to end up quitting the game and reloading it to select a different type of game. Could the cause banning to happen? (Note: While this screen (the loading screen) is up I can’t not see what map will be played on next or either the players who are.
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> If it is the case, this is very unfair. It was only a 5 min ban, which I think is a little long, but not horrible. In any case, I never been banned before. It’s been about a week and a half since I really played but I use to quit games I got thrown into because they were unwinnable, (like 500 plus to 125). I just simply do not agree that players should be thrown into games that has the big of gap.
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> FYI: If i thought this ban was for quitting I would not be here. The Last DNF game that is showing up never showed up on my tv screen, it was still the ending game screen.

I see a couple dnf in arena and war zone so you have quit or disconnected from games and that is why you got a short ban. Your game history is in your service record.

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> > Hello I received this
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> > > The Banhammer Strikes
> > > You have been placed on a cool down from warzone matchmaking for poor connection to the dedicated servers. Check www.halowaypoint.com/ban for more information. Your cool down will last for the following duration: 9:40
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> > does anyone have any information that could help me understand why this is happening so I can prevent it in the future?
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Well you have 6 DNF’s in you last 11 games in your service record from the 2nd and 3rd of March, that’s a 54% DNF rate which i might add is quite high!
But lets look a little deeper. Going through your history all the way back to the 1st of January up until the 2nd of March you have no DNF’s at all, and going even deeper still into the individual games that you DNF’d out of, those 6 games, 3 of them your team won and 3 of them your team lost, looking even deeper still at the individual kills and deaths, boss takedown, bases captured is even more telling.
The figures alone seems to indicate that you did not play a full game and the ones that you did complete show a completely different picture.
I for one most of the time do not believe people when they say they have been dissconnected from the game for a DNF to show, But you sir I think are the exception.
And here I will say it although I am an advocate of the banhammer, this ban is slightly unwarranted, granted the message gives an indication to the cause of the problem, I.e. a shoddy connection.
Most likely your connection decided to have some seizure or it decided it didn’t like the Halo servers on those day’s.

My advice would be to restart your router then perform a speed test and a ping test, the ping test will measure the packet loss from router to server, if you have a high packet loss this might explain why you are having connection issues with the Halo servers, if there are still problems contact your ISP and try some trouble shooting with them, hope this helps.

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> > > Hello I received this
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> > > > You have been placed on a cool down from warzone matchmaking for poor connection to the dedicated servers. Check www.halowaypoint.com/ban for more information. Your cool down will last for the following duration: 9:40
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> > > does anyone have any information that could help me understand why this is happening so I can prevent it in the future?
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> Well you have 6 DNF’s in you last 11 games in your service record from the 2nd and 3rd of March, that’s a 54% DNF rate which i might add is quite high!
> But lets look a little deeper. Going through your history all the way back to the 1st of January up until the 2nd of March you have no DNF’s at all, and going even deeper still into the individual games that you DNF’d out of, those 6 games, 3 of them your team won and 3 of them your team lost, looking even deeper still at the individual kills and deaths, boss takedown, bases captured is even more telling.
> The figures alone seems to indicate that you did not play a full game and the ones that you did complete show a completely different picture.
> I for one most of the time do not believe people when they say they have been dissconnected from the game for a DNF to show, But you sir I think are the exception.
> And here I will say it although I am an advocate of the banhammer, this ban is slightly unwarranted, granted the message gives an indication to the cause of the problem, I.e. a shoddy connection.
> Most likely your connection decided to have some seizure or it decided it didn’t like the Halo servers on those day’s.
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> My advice would be to restart your router then perform a speed test and a ping test, the ping test will measure the packet loss from router to server, if you have a high packet loss this might explain why you are having connection issues with the Halo servers, if there are still problems contact your ISP and try some trouble shooting with them, hope this helps.

see 6 DNFs in the last 11 games. see that makes sense. getting banned from 1 game quit after never quitting for for a month and only disconnections, ones over a week old, that’s ridiculous. some bans make sense, some make literally no sense.

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I have left one game today, and one 2 days ago. I just finished a game of Fiesta and they banned me for no reason. Now when you check my games and see more than 2 DNFs… notice all of them but the one from today and March 2nd are from Custom Games. I’ll post a video from my last match for proof when it loads.

The video in question

Edit: 2 games today, and also all DNFs on Free For All Slayer are custom games

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Help 343! This absolutely the worst experience! About 1-2 months ago I was playing Halo 5 on xbox live multiplayer and my network disconnected while in a game and then in the next game I idled for a few minutes and was kicked off the game. And then I was banned for 3 hours !!! What the hell of a kind of ban is that! I mean in previous games there would be a ban for 5-60 minutes (95 percent would be typically 10 min ban) . Ok cool thats fine. But friggin 3 hours! And now today, I idled in two games in a row (and I idle rarely!). But Yes, i know that’s my fault. I happened to be doing other things simultaneously (which doesnt happen often but happened to be the situation that day) and BOOM i get banned for 5 hours!! 5 friggin hours! What the hell is this! Thats absolutely ridiculous. For working people that means we can’t friggin play for the rest of the day when we are home from work! Please fix this and put more reasonable bans! I might as well create a dumb other profile just in case this happens. this is so stupid. Match the offense with the penalty. Gosh, i feel like i’m getting death sentence for a minor offense because I RARELY idle and rarely do other crap like betrayals or whatever other negatives. Heck ive played halo online since halo 2 and never had my behaviors (which are pretty darn good) been this detrimental to the experience online! This is not just my individual issue but a systematic issue that needs to be addressed. thank you. Oh! and not to mention one of the idles this last time was actually part of the friggin strategy. I was hiding in a enemies base during capture the flag so enemies wouldnt spawn in the base so my teammates could more easily enter and what do i get … BANNED! increase the permitted idle time for heavens sake.

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just finished a match 50-43 8:08nin long annnnnnd banned. but I mean it was overgrowth so it probably thought I quit because who wouldn’t on that map.

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I just got banned for quiting too many times?? I only quit one game out of the many games that I’ve played today… I quit one game, started another one right after and as soon as that game finished I got banned… One DNF today about 12 mins ago, one DNF on Feb 28th and 2 on Feb 7 according to my service record. Does this really require a ban??

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I just played 22 games in a row tonight. On the 22 second one I was getting tired and destroyed all night so I said screw this I’m playing warZone to lighten the mood. I left and went directly into warZone and when I got out of my warzone game BOOM! Banhammer for 9 minutes. What the hell?

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im seeing a noticeable pattern,. people see based on the day and that how i think it should be. not based on months of data on you. it really should go back to being based on the day. they are handing out way too many bans. its almost on par to the days on Bungie’s Reach, the banhammer needs to lighten up.

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> I just played 22 games in a row tonight. On the 22 second one I was getting tired and destroyed all night so I said screw this I’m playing warZone to lighten the mood. I left and went directly into warZone and when I got out of my warzone game BOOM! Banhammer for 9 minutes. What the hell?

I’m in the same boat as you, I just played 5 games of fiesta slayer I had to quit one to answer the phone then I played the next game and finished and I was banned instantly after.

Like I totally think bans in ranked match making is a good thing because people think their pretend ranks mean something and don’t want to play with potential quitters. But banning in a social game types make no sense, I quit 1 time and got a ban? C’mon. Seriously? Don’t take the game so serious ok 343.

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> I just got banned for quiting too many times?? I only quit one game out of the many games that I’ve played today… I quit one game, started another one right after and as soon as that game finished I got banned… One DNF today about 12 mins ago, one DNF on Feb 28th and 2 on Feb 7 according to my service record. Does this really require a ban??

I got a disconnect today and my last DNF was in February 10, and I was banned for 3 minutes. I’m convinced it never resets and is one of the reason I’m not buying halo 6 in the future.

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because 343 and TWC still cant get the ISP to communicate … nowadays they just dont connect at all. however at release … i got bumped by 343 so much i received a 3 MONTH ban, because 343 servers were dumping TWC, still do.

dont whine about 3 days or 3 weeks. likewise lets be clear there is no clear cut algirythym, since their own system cannot tell the difference btwn a player playing & its very own system disconnecting him. how many games did i get kicked out of to earn a 12wk arena ban, this was in oct, things that make ya go hhmmmmmmm

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I have got the game 3 days ago, i’m a beginner to halo but i know the rules: i had to quit only 2 games because i had to go. My problem is that at the end of some games in Arena i simply got disconnected (win or loss) with an alert saying “error…” but i’m connected to xbox live and got the stats of the game so the ban happen… I’ve been banned 4 times and now it’s 8 hours ban, i know the rules are strict and i try to respect it but when i buy a game i don’t whant to get banned because of servers issues (maybe booting?), so am i the only one? When the ban is finish if it happen again this will be 16hours? help i’m dissapointed, btw i love the campaign.