The official Halo 5 "Why was I banned?" thread

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> > So what do you expect us to do when playing outnumbered. It isn’t enjoyable to get your -Yoinks!- handed to you over and over. It isn’t fair if I quit because others have. Isn’t there some safeguard into the game that if you are playing w/o a full team you shouldn’t be expected or penalized for quitting? It simply isn’t a responsible blanket rule to tally a players quits because they’re in a 4/3, 4/3, 3/2, 3/1 and afraid to quit and let their stats go to crap for the sake of “not quitting.” Let alone frustrated for 8-12 minutes of just getting obliterated.
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> What we should do?
> Stay and get killed,no safeguard or handrail,just the choice between staying and getting killed or getting punished.

Are you a moderator?

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> > I have a week do not play halo online by not having xbox live card who gives me a Bresia men please this is my mail.
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> You know you can get trouble for that.

Some don’t learn.

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> > > > I have been banned for more than 24 hrs. I quit a couple matches and have been temporarily banned before. Lost a ranked match a few days ago the match ended and randomly popped up saying i disconnected from the match even though the match was already over I did not quit or disconnect the match clearly ended. I was then banned for literally no reason. This is a very harsh banning system im all for bans but never a permenant one.
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> > > You have 20 dnf’s in the last 8 days alone, including warzone and arena. That is the reason you are banned.
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> > I know i have had a few rage quits and disconnects from internet or sevrvers laggin. That was not my question. You simply stated something I already know. The answer I was looking for is it possible to be permanently banned from a game that people pay real life money for simply quitting a match. I have been a halo supporter since the very first halo and so far halo five and the developers eem to be very distasteful to customers. Perma bans for quitting should NEVER be a thing unless the person is a hacker
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> > > > I have been banned for more than 24 hrs. I quit a couple matches and have been temporarily banned before. Lost a ranked match a few days ago the match ended and randomly popped up saying i disconnected from the match even though the match was already over I did not quit or disconnect the match clearly ended. I was then banned for literally no reason. This is a very harsh banning system im all for bans but never a permenant one.
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> > > You have 20 dnf’s in the last 8 days alone, including warzone and arena. That is the reason you are banned.
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> > Sorry i stand corrected it was not a perma ban but it was definitly longer then 24 hrs. Thanks for the reply and sorry for my attitude.

No problem, I don’t believe you can get perma banned for quitting, Although the bans do get longer each time.

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> > > So what do you expect us to do when playing outnumbered. It isn’t enjoyable to get your -Yoinks!- handed to you over and over. It isn’t fair if I quit because others have. Isn’t there some safeguard into the game that if you are playing w/o a full team you shouldn’t be expected or penalized for quitting? It simply isn’t a responsible blanket rule to tally a players quits because they’re in a 4/3, 4/3, 3/2, 3/1 and afraid to quit and let their stats go to crap for the sake of “not quitting.” Let alone frustrated for 8-12 minutes of just getting obliterated.
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> > What we should do?
> > Stay and get killed,no safeguard or handrail,just the choice between staying and getting killed or getting punished.
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> Are you a moderator?

No Iam not a moderator why?

Anyone know why I’m stilled banned even after my ban completed and the timer disappeared?

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> > > > I was banned for “leaving the game too much” because I lost connection that’s not right at all I played for my game and I pay for online just to be banned for something I didn’t do fix now or I want my money back
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> > > You have 9DNFs in your last 20games,and it have a pattern.
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> > Yeah losing connection not my fault Wi-Fi and servers are crap
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> Make sure your Nat is open,you doesnt appear offline.

Appearing offline doesn’t effect anything.

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> > > I was banned for “leaving the game too much” because I lost connection that’s not right at all I played for my game and I pay for online just to be banned for something I didn’t do fix now or I want my money back
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> > You have 9DNFs in your last 20games,and it have a pattern.
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> Yeah losing connection not my fault Wi-Fi and servers are crap

Don’t play online shooters over Wi-Fi, it’s pointless.

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> > > I was banned for “leaving the game too much” because I lost connection that’s not right at all I played for my game and I pay for online just to be banned for something I didn’t do fix now or I want my money back
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> > You have 9DNFs in your last 20games,and it have a pattern.
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> Yeah losing connection not my fault Wi-Fi and servers are crap
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> > > > > > I was banned for “leaving the game too much” because I lost connection that’s not right at all I played for my game and I pay for online just to be banned for something I didn’t do fix now or I want my money back
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> > > > > You have 9DNFs in your last 20games,and it have a pattern.
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> > > > Yeah losing connection not my fault Wi-Fi and servers are crap
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> > > Make sure your Nat is open,you doesnt appear offline.
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> > Appearing offline doesn’t effect anything.
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> Actually it appears to be one of the contributing factors to the ‘fireteam’ glitch which some people mistake for a ban, along with switching accounts.
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> > Anyone know why I’m stilled banned even after my ban completed and the timer disappeared?
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> Not particularly. The only place I’m aware of the ban timer can be viewed is in the original ‘ban hammer strikes’ message. If you’ve surpassed that time I would try a hard reset before anything else though.

Poor connection was listed as one of the ban worthy offense prior to the release of the game. Simply put habitual counters can pull a cable and ‘disconnect’ so in order to deal with the people intentionally causing the problems they had to widen the net and that will unfortunately catch a few people who are just disconnecting or have low quality internet. However, it takes quite a few DNFs before the system starts banning you and I have a difficult time believing that every one of your dnf’s is due to a lost of connection (something I am up to 10 with in the last year.) I personally play over wifi, but some people say that a wired (Ethernet) connection benefits them, there are also a lot of threads about improving your connection to the servers which you can use the search feature to find out about.

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> > > > I was banned for “leaving the game too much” because I lost connection that’s not right at all I played for my game and I pay for online just to be banned for something I didn’t do fix now or I want my money back
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> > > You have 9DNFs in your last 20games,and it have a pattern.
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> > Yeah losing connection not my fault Wi-Fi and servers are crap
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> > > > > > > I was banned for “leaving the game too much” because I lost connection that’s not right at all I played for my game and I pay for online just to be banned for something I didn’t do fix now or I want my money back
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> > > > > > You have 9DNFs in your last 20games,and it have a pattern.
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> > > > > Yeah losing connection not my fault Wi-Fi and servers are crap
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> > > > Make sure your Nat is open,you doesnt appear offline.
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> > > Appearing offline doesn’t effect anything.
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> > Actually it appears to be one of the contributing factors to the ‘fireteam’ glitch which some people mistake for a ban, along with switching accounts.
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> > > Anyone know why I’m stilled banned even after my ban completed and the timer disappeared?
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> > Not particularly. The only place I’m aware of the ban timer can be viewed is in the original ‘ban hammer strikes’ message. If you’ve surpassed that time I would try a hard reset before anything else though.
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> Poor connection was listed as one of the ban worthy offense prior to the release of the game. Simply put habitual counters can pull a cable and ‘disconnect’ so in order to deal with the people intentionally causing the problems they had to widen the net and that will unfortunately catch a few people who are just disconnecting or have low quality internet. However, it takes quite a few DNFs before the system starts banning you and I have a difficult time believing that every one of your dnf’s is due to a lost of connection (something I am up to 10 with in the last year.) I personally play over wifi, but some people say that a wired (Ethernet) connection benefits them, there are also a lot of threads about improving your connection to the servers which you can use the search feature to find out about.

I have hard reset twice. . . The ban hammer strikes message isnt showing, but arena is still banned.

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> > > > > I was banned for “leaving the game too much” because I lost connection that’s not right at all I played for my game and I pay for online just to be banned for something I didn’t do fix now or I want my money back
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> > > > You have 9DNFs in your last 20games,and it have a pattern.
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> > > Yeah losing connection not my fault Wi-Fi and servers are crap
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> > > > > > > > I was banned for “leaving the game too much” because I lost connection that’s not right at all I played for my game and I pay for online just to be banned for something I didn’t do fix now or I want my money back
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> > > > > > > You have 9DNFs in your last 20games,and it have a pattern.
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> > > > > > Yeah losing connection not my fault Wi-Fi and servers are crap
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> > > > > Make sure your Nat is open,you doesnt appear offline.
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> > > > Appearing offline doesn’t effect anything.
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> > > Actually it appears to be one of the contributing factors to the ‘fireteam’ glitch which some people mistake for a ban, along with switching accounts.
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> > > > Anyone know why I’m stilled banned even after my ban completed and the timer disappeared?
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> > > Not particularly. The only place I’m aware of the ban timer can be viewed is in the original ‘ban hammer strikes’ message. If you’ve surpassed that time I would try a hard reset before anything else though.
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> > Poor connection was listed as one of the ban worthy offense prior to the release of the game. Simply put habitual counters can pull a cable and ‘disconnect’ so in order to deal with the people intentionally causing the problems they had to widen the net and that will unfortunately catch a few people who are just disconnecting or have low quality internet. However, it takes quite a few DNFs before the system starts banning you and I have a difficult time believing that every one of your dnf’s is due to a lost of connection (something I am up to 10 with in the last year.) I personally play over wifi, but some people say that a wired (Ethernet) connection benefits them, there are also a lot of threads about improving your connection to the servers which you can use the search feature to find out about.
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> I have hard reset twice. . . The ban hammer strikes message isnt showing, but arena is still banned.

And the ban hammer strikes message shows up every time you log on. Up until it’s over.

thanks for makeing the thered maybe make this also on the games thread

Yo wtf, I just posted earlier that I have never been banned in H5, but that I disagreed with the ban system in it.

Just now, after finishing a SWAT match, my game froze in the post-game screen, so I restarted H5. After H5 reboots, it states I have been banned for 2 hours for being idle. I literally played one game of SWAT, completed it and got banned for being idle. After getting the ban message, then I receive an Arena Win REQ Pack for winning that SWAT match.

So basically, I got banned for being idle while not being idle and received an award for being banned for not being idle.

BIG WTF

If 343i doesn’t fix this nonsense, I will not be buying H6, end of story. I had my fun with Halo since its inception and am okay if it’s time to give up on it if this ban garbage doesn’t stop (banning has been the biggest problem with Halo matchmaking since the day H2 went live online).

Oh and something similar happened in Infection on the newly refreshed Power Installation map. I was hiding in a corner waiting for zombies, looking back and forth, and BOOM I get kicked with the stupid error message “Wake Up John, Idle too long.” WTF? I never had these problems until the recent Halo 5 update and all I play is Infection and SWAT. This happened just before the SWAT game too.

I really am now believing that 343i/Microsoft are simply instituting randomly timed bans to whomever in order to maintain a certain bandwidth cap on their end, regarding servers. If they get too close to going over their server limit, perhaps they risk fees and server crashes, so when they get close to the limit, BAM time to start issuing out bans to bring the traffic back down to a safe operating level.

That’s the only thing that can explain these absurd and random bans that occur for no reason.

This banning nonsense is going to be the end of Halo. Just look at this thread alone, there are thousands of people experiencing the same issue and many have already sold the game and/or stopped playing a long time ago, and went to different games.

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> I really am now believing that 343i/Microsoft are simply instituting randomly timed bans to whomever in order to maintain a certain bandwidth cap on their end, regarding servers. If they get too close to going over their server limit, perhaps they risk fees and server crashes, so when they get close to the limit, BAM time to start issuing out bans to bring the traffic back down to a safe operating level.
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> That’s the only thing that can explain these absurd and random bans that occur for no reason.
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> This banning nonsense is going to be the end of Halo. Just look at this thread alone, there are thousands of people experiencing the same issue and many have already sold the game and/or stopped playing a long time ago, and went to different games.

Do you have anything to prove your thesis except from own experiences?

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> Yo wtf, I just posted earlier that I have never been banned in H5, but that I disagreed with the ban system in it.
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> Just now, after finishing a SWAT match, my game froze in the post-game screen, so I restarted H5. After H5 reboots, it states I have been banned for 2 hours for being idle. I literally played one game of SWAT, completed it and got banned for being idle. After getting the ban message, then I receive an Arena Win REQ Pack for winning that SWAT match.
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> So basically, I got banned for being idle while not being idle and received an award for being banned for not being idle.
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> BIG WTF
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> If 343i doesn’t fix this nonsense, I will not be buying H6, end of story. I had my fun with Halo since its inception and am okay if it’s time to give up on it if this ban garbage doesn’t stop (banning has been the biggest problem with Halo matchmaking since the day H2 went live online).
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> Oh and something similar happened in Infection on the newly refreshed Power Installation map. I was hiding in a corner waiting for zombies, looking back and forth, and BOOM I get kicked with the stupid error message “Wake Up John, Idle too long.” WTF? I never had these problems until the recent Halo 5 update and all I play is Infection and SWAT. This happened just before the SWAT game too.

The time to AFK kick on this game is too short. I get up to go take a piss and I come back and I’m kicked from the game.

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> Yo wtf, I just posted earlier that I have never been banned in H5, but that I disagreed with the ban system in it.
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> Just now, after finishing a SWAT match, my game froze in the post-game screen, so I restarted H5. After H5 reboots, it states I have been banned for 2 hours for being idle. I literally played one game of SWAT, completed it and got banned for being idle. After getting the ban message, then I receive an Arena Win REQ Pack for winning that SWAT match.
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> So basically, I got banned for being idle while not being idle and received an award for being banned for not being idle.
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> BIG WTF
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> If 343i doesn’t fix this nonsense, I will not be buying H6, end of story. I had my fun with Halo since its inception and am okay if it’s time to give up on it if this ban garbage doesn’t stop (banning has been the biggest problem with Halo matchmaking since the day H2 went live online).
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> Oh and something similar happened in Infection on the newly refreshed Power Installation map. I was hiding in a corner waiting for zombies, looking back and forth, and BOOM I get kicked with the stupid error message “Wake Up John, Idle too long.” WTF? I never had these problems until the recent Halo 5 update and all I play is Infection and SWAT. This happened just before the SWAT game too.

You have 4 DNFs within the past week.

Fun fact: None were in SWAT, they were all in Infection.

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> I was hiding in a corner waiting for zombies, looking back and forth, and BOOM I get kicked with the stupid error message “Wake Up John, Idle too long.” WTF?

Idle detection often looks for more than just the occasional controller input. I’ve found that in multiple online games, just looking around while stationary or just moving a little bit every once in awhile isn’t enough to avoid idle detection.

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> > Yo wtf, I just posted earlier that I have never been banned in H5, but that I disagreed with the ban system in it.
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> > Just now, after finishing a SWAT match, my game froze in the post-game screen, so I restarted H5. After H5 reboots, it states I have been banned for 2 hours for being idle. I literally played one game of SWAT, completed it and got banned for being idle. After getting the ban message, then I receive an Arena Win REQ Pack for winning that SWAT match.
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> > So basically, I got banned for being idle while not being idle and received an award for being banned for not being idle.
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> > BIG WTF
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> > If 343i doesn’t fix this nonsense, I will not be buying H6, end of story. I had my fun with Halo since its inception and am okay if it’s time to give up on it if this ban garbage doesn’t stop (banning has been the biggest problem with Halo matchmaking since the day H2 went live online).
> >
> > Oh and something similar happened in Infection on the newly refreshed Power Installation map. I was hiding in a corner waiting for zombies, looking back and forth, and BOOM I get kicked with the stupid error message “Wake Up John, Idle too long.” WTF? I never had these problems until the recent Halo 5 update and all I play is Infection and SWAT. This happened just before the SWAT game too.
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> You have 4 DNFs within the past week.
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> Fun fact: None were in SWAT, they were all in Infection.

Fun fact: ban system is still trash.
Fun fact: halo 6 will have less sales due to the ban system being trash :slight_smile:

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> > > Yo wtf, I just posted earlier that I have never been banned in H5, but that I disagreed with the ban system in it.
> > >
> > > Just now, after finishing a SWAT match, my game froze in the post-game screen, so I restarted H5. After H5 reboots, it states I have been banned for 2 hours for being idle. I literally played one game of SWAT, completed it and got banned for being idle. After getting the ban message, then I receive an Arena Win REQ Pack for winning that SWAT match.
> > >
> > > So basically, I got banned for being idle while not being idle and received an award for being banned for not being idle.
> > >
> > > BIG WTF
> > >
> > > If 343i doesn’t fix this nonsense, I will not be buying H6, end of story. I had my fun with Halo since its inception and am okay if it’s time to give up on it if this ban garbage doesn’t stop (banning has been the biggest problem with Halo matchmaking since the day H2 went live online).
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> > > Oh and something similar happened in Infection on the newly refreshed Power Installation map. I was hiding in a corner waiting for zombies, looking back and forth, and BOOM I get kicked with the stupid error message “Wake Up John, Idle too long.” WTF? I never had these problems until the recent Halo 5 update and all I play is Infection and SWAT. This happened just before the SWAT game too.
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> > You have 4 DNFs within the past week.
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> > Fun fact: None were in SWAT, they were all in Infection.
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> Fun fact: ban system is still trash.
> Fun fact: halo 6 will have less sales due to the ban system being trash :slight_smile:

Fun Fact: Its the Ban system made back by Bungie and nearly noone ever complained about it when it was used in one of Bungies games.

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> > > Yo wtf, I just posted earlier that I have never been banned in H5, but that I disagreed with the ban system in it.
> > >
> > > Just now, after finishing a SWAT match, my game froze in the post-game screen, so I restarted H5. After H5 reboots, it states I have been banned for 2 hours for being idle. I literally played one game of SWAT, completed it and got banned for being idle. After getting the ban message, then I receive an Arena Win REQ Pack for winning that SWAT match.
> > >
> > > So basically, I got banned for being idle while not being idle and received an award for being banned for not being idle.
> > >
> > > BIG WTF
> > >
> > > If 343i doesn’t fix this nonsense, I will not be buying H6, end of story. I had my fun with Halo since its inception and am okay if it’s time to give up on it if this ban garbage doesn’t stop (banning has been the biggest problem with Halo matchmaking since the day H2 went live online).
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> > > Oh and something similar happened in Infection on the newly refreshed Power Installation map. I was hiding in a corner waiting for zombies, looking back and forth, and BOOM I get kicked with the stupid error message “Wake Up John, Idle too long.” WTF? I never had these problems until the recent Halo 5 update and all I play is Infection and SWAT. This happened just before the SWAT game too.
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> > You have 4 DNFs within the past week.
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> > Fun fact: None were in SWAT, they were all in Infection.
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> Fun fact: ban system is still trash.
> Fun fact: halo 6 will have less sales due to the van system being trash :slight_smile:

The ban system seems to work quite well to me. I don’t quit/afk/betray and I don’t get banned.
I think your magic 8-ball is stuck sometimes if you shake it really well it goes back to normal.