The official Halo 5 "Why was I banned?" thread

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> I have been banned after connection timed out in a laggy game now I have been banned for 21 hours un fairly fix this halo!!!

So going off your history, it looks like you got a ban issued after a game of Mongoose Sumo, yes? What you probably were seeing was the “late banhammer” syndrome, which is common banhammer behavior. This is when you get banned after a game you complete and otherwise do nothing wrong, but the ban happens right after and makes you think you got disconnected. Don’t worry, you didn’t; the banhammer is hitting you for a previous offense, and simply takes 1 extra game to catch up. When it does finally hit you, it kicks you from the servers as soon as whatever game you’re playing is over; this often is mistaken for the game banning you for an unintentional disconnect, but this is not the case.
In your particular case, you were likely banned for this game, where you were the only person to not finish. You were not banned for this game; the banhammer just took one extra game to catch you.

What about the times when your being trolled in war zone by players who keep running over you and you quit out of that match… can that at least be detected? Id love to have my 24 HOUR BAN!!! reduced or removed because of trolls…I mean players who troll are the ones who should be getting a 24 hour ban. I got hammered just because i quit out of a couple of games between two days. Aldo this is my first ban. Wtf?
Can you guess why I quit out…? Trolls

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> What about the timesame when your being trolled in war zone by players who keep running over you and you quit out of that match… can that at leat be worthy of a unban? I mean players who troll are the ones who should be getting a 24 hour ban. I got hammered just because oli quit out of three games between two days.

I dont even find an warzone match in your history…
Do you use an other account for gaming or are you just curious if theres an possibility if that could happen in warzone?
As far as I know it would count against you.

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> > What about the timesame when your being trolled in war zone by players who keep running over you and you quit out of that match… can that at leat be worthy of a unban? I mean players who troll are the ones who should be getting a 24 hour ban. I got hammered just because oli quit out of three games between two days.
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> I dont even find an warzone match in your history…
> Do you use an other account for gaming or are you just curious if theres an possibility if that could happen in warzone?
> As far as I know it would count against you.

I don’t know why your not seeing any war zone games. I’m playing war zone firefight and I’ll have 1 player every like 4 games who will just run over you over and over. And yeah I’m sure it counts against you. I just don’t think it should or it should at least be detectable so bans can be shortened.

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> > > What about the timesame when your being trolled in war zone by players who keep running over you and you quit out of that match… can that at leat be worthy of a unban? I mean players who troll are the ones who should be getting a 24 hour ban. I got hammered just because oli quit out of three games between two days.
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> > I dont even find an warzone match in your history…
> > Do you use an other account for gaming or are you just curious if theres an possibility if that could happen in warzone?
> > As far as I know it would count against you.
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> I don’t know why your not seeing any war zone games. I’m playing war zone firefight and I’ll have 1 player every like 4 games who will just run over you over and over. And yeah I’m sure it counts against you. I just don’t think it should or it should at least be detectable so bans can be shortened.

Im so sorry,I had activated the filter to only shows me Arena games.
Also as far as I know theres nothing you can do,just hope that the other guy teamkill to much and get kicked out of the game.

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> > > > What about the timesame when your being trolled in war zone by players who keep running over you and you quit out of that match… can that at leat be worthy of a unban? I mean players who troll are the ones who should be getting a 24 hour ban. I got hammered just because oli quit out of three games between two days.
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> > > I dont even find an warzone match in your history…
> > > Do you use an other account for gaming or are you just curious if theres an possibility if that could happen in warzone?
> > > As far as I know it would count against you.
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> > I don’t know why your not seeing any war zone games. I’m playing war zone firefight and I’ll have 1 player every like 4 games who will just run over you over and over. And yeah I’m sure it counts against you. I just don’t think it should or it should at least be detectable so bans can be shortened.
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> Im so sorry,I had activated the filter to only shows me Arena games.
> Also as far as I know theres nothing you can do,just hope that the other guy teamkill to much and get kicked out of the game.

Well, thanks anyways. Just I can’t believe a 24 hour ban for a first offense.

Oh dang… nevermind. It was a 24 minute ban. All I saw was a 23:52 and it didn’t say minutes or hours. Unless someone at bungee saw this and fixed it, I’m now able to play war zone again… okay. Well thanks anyways. Why isn’t the banhammer more clear or at least able to tell you multiple times what your ban time is?

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> > > What about the timesame when your being trolled in war zone by players who keep running over you and you quit out of that match… can that at leat be worthy of a unban? I mean players who troll are the ones who should be getting a 24 hour ban. I got hammered just because oli quit out of three games between two days.
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> > I dont even find an warzone match in your history…
> > Do you use an other account for gaming or are you just curious if theres an possibility if that could happen in warzone?
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> I don’t know why your not seeing any war zone games. I’m playing war zone firefight and I’ll have 1 player every like 4 games who will just run over you over and over. And yeah I’m sure it counts against you. I just don’t think it should or it should at least be detectable so bans can be shortened.

So people who betray do get detected by the system; if they betray enough, then they can get booted from games and even banned. Instead of quitting, though, which the system doesn’t like, what you should do when you encounter trolls is do your best to ignore them, run away from them if you have to, and continue the game. Then be sure to go and report those players on Xbox Live for unsporting conduct, and add that they were griefing/trolling in the custom message box. Many trolls have gotten smarter about how they do it, and will refrain from actually killing players because if you betray enough times even in Warzone you get booted. If the other players were fully killing you with vehicles, then you could have also let them continue doing that until they got betrayal booted. Griefers are terrible, I know, but try not to get yourself detected by the banhammer and don’t quit under any circumstance, if you can help it (obviously emergencies are an exception).
Also, you said you quit 3 games in the past 2 days, but you actually have 9 DNFs in Warzone since 9/22/16.

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> > > > What about the timesame when your being trolled in war zone by players who keep running over you and you quit out of that match… can that at leat be worthy of a unban? I mean players who troll are the ones who should be getting a 24 hour ban. I got hammered just because oli quit out of three games between two days.
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> > > I dont even find an warzone match in your history…
> > > Do you use an other account for gaming or are you just curious if theres an possibility if that could happen in warzone?
> > > As far as I know it would count against you.
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> > I don’t know why your not seeing any war zone games. I’m playing war zone firefight and I’ll have 1 player every like 4 games who will just run over you over and over. And yeah I’m sure it counts against you. I just don’t think it should or it should at least be detectable so bans can be shortened.
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> So people who betray do get detected by the system; if they betray enough, then they can get booted from games and even banned. Instead of quitting, though, which the system doesn’t like, what you should do when you encounter trolls is do your best to ignore them, run away from them if you have to, and continue the game. Then be sure to go and report those players on Xbox Live for unsporting conduct, and add that they were griefing/trolling in the custom message box. Many trolls have gotten smarter about how they do it, and will refrain from actually killing players because if you betray enough times even in Warzone you get booted. If the other players were fully killing you with vehicles, then you could have also let them continue doing that until they got betrayal booted. Griefers are terrible, I know, but try not to get yourself detected by the banhammer and don’t quit under any circumstance, if you can help it (obviously emergencies are an exception).
> Also, you said you quit 3 games in the past 2 days, but you actually have 9 DNFs in Warzone since 9/22/16.

Yeah if you look I changed my original post. Go back up and read. I didn’t really take a look. I was just approximating.

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> > > > > What about the timesame when your being trolled in war zone by players who keep running over you and you quit out of that match… can that at leat be worthy of a unban? I mean players who troll are the ones who should be getting a 24 hour ban. I got hammered just because oli quit out of three games between two days.
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> > > > I dont even find an warzone match in your history…
> > > > Do you use an other account for gaming or are you just curious if theres an possibility if that could happen in warzone?
> > > > As far as I know it would count against you.
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> Yeah if you look I changed my original post. Go back up and read. I didn’t really take a look. I was just approximating.

If you are talking about the following edit:

> I got hammered just because i quit out of a couple of games between two days. Aldo this is my first ban. Wtf?
> Can you guess why I quit out…? Trolls

then I have to say that it’s still a gross underestimate. You didn’t quit a couple of games in the past 2 days; you quit 9. That’s quite a bit of quitting. I understand that you don’t like being banned but just know that your game history is public information, so trying to make it sound like you quit less than you actually did doesn’t do anything to help you.

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> > > > > What about the timesame when your being trolled in war zone by players who keep running over you and you quit out of that match… can that at leat be worthy of a unban? I mean players who troll are the ones who should be getting a 24 hour ban. I got hammered just because oli quit out of three games between two days.
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> > > > I dont even find an warzone match in your history…
> > > > Do you use an other account for gaming or are you just curious if theres an possibility if that could happen in warzone?
> > > > As far as I know it would count against you.
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> > > Oh dang… nevermind. It was a 24 minute ban. All I saw was a 23:52 and it didn’t say minutes or hours. Unless someone at bungee saw this and fixed it, I’m now able to play war zone again… okay. Well thanks anyways. Why isn’t the banhammer more clear or at least able to tell you multiple times what your ban time is?

The front page of this thread has a breakdown of the banhammer timer:

> How can I tell how long I was banned for? Ban duration will be shown on the red ban screen as the ban hammer strikes. First offences are generally low and last only a few minutes, but will increase in duration incrementally with each subsequent ban. The ban timer itself displays times as follows -
> Days : Hours : Minutes : Seconds

Ok so, today I quit 2 games in a row because of horrible lag and because some teammates already did (team-arena).
I was banner for About 1 hour, ok fine. After that I played a bunch of matches untill my intermission got stuck and ‘dedicated server had issues’. So I rebooted my game and was banned for 8:30 hours… what…??

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> Ok so, today I quit 2 games in a row because of horrible lag and because some teammates already did (team-arena).
> I was banner for About 1 hour, ok fine. After that I played a bunch of matches untill my intermission got stuck and ‘dedicated server had issues’. So I rebooted my game and was banned for 8:30 hours… what…??

Ok, I found the 2 Team Arena DNFs. It was followed by a Warzone DNF, but I don’t think that would have triggered the 8:30 ban since you played many games after that Warzone game. But interestingly, your last CTF game was also a DNF, where only two people on your team (including you) left, and you both weren’t doing so hot in the game (this suggests that you left rather than disconnected). But you say that you rebooted your console during an intermission, which would have only occurred after the game completed, meaning it should have registered as complete in your history. So I’m not fully following your story. Perhaps the banhammer kicked in for the CTF DNF during the intermission between games (though I’ve never heard of this happening).

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> > Ok so, today I quit 2 games in a row because of horrible lag and because some teammates already did (team-arena).
> > I was banner for About 1 hour, ok fine. After that I played a bunch of matches untill my intermission got stuck and ‘dedicated server had issues’. So I rebooted my game and was banned for 8:30 hours… what…??
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> Ok, I found the 2 Team Arena DNFs. It was followed by a Warzone DNF, but I don’t think that would have triggered the 8:30 ban since you played many games after that Warzone game. But interestingly, your last CTF game was also a DNF, where only two people on your team (including you) left, and you both weren’t doing so hot in the game (this suggests that you left rather than disconnected). But you say that you rebooted your console during an intermission, which would have only occurred after the game completed, meaning it should have registered as complete in your history. So I’m not fully following your story. Perhaps the banhammer kicked in for the CTF DNF during the intermission between games (though I’ve never heard of this happening).

I never quit a game unless theres extreme lag or teammates betraying, idling, etc…
I never left a match after that Warzone game.

And to make things worse, I’m now banned, again. I left 1 team-arena game, then I -completed- a BTB game but the moment the carnage report should’ve popped ,it said connection lost. Thus banning me for 24 hours…

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> > > Ok so, today I quit 2 games in a row because of horrible lag and because some teammates already did (team-arena).
> > > I was banner for About 1 hour, ok fine. After that I played a bunch of matches untill my intermission got stuck and ‘dedicated server had issues’. So I rebooted my game and was banned for 8:30 hours… what…??
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> > Ok, I found the 2 Team Arena DNFs. It was followed by a Warzone DNF, but I don’t think that would have triggered the 8:30 ban since you played many games after that Warzone game. But interestingly, your last CTF game was also a DNF, where only two people on your team (including you) left, and you both weren’t doing so hot in the game (this suggests that you left rather than disconnected). But you say that you rebooted your console during an intermission, which would have only occurred after the game completed, meaning it should have registered as complete in your history. So I’m not fully following your story. Perhaps the banhammer kicked in for the CTF DNF during the intermission between games (though I’ve never heard of this happening).
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> I never quit a game unless theres extreme lag or teammates betraying, idling, etc…
> I never left a match after that Warzone game.
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> And to make things worse, I’m now banned, again. I left 1 team-arena game, then I -completed- a BTB game but the moment the carnage report should’ve popped ,it said connection lost. Thus banning me for 24 hours…

The bansystem has delay from one game,so you got banned for your disconnect earlyer and not for the BTB game.

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> > > > Ok so, today I quit 2 games in a row because of horrible lag and because some teammates already did (team-arena).
> > > > I was banner for About 1 hour, ok fine. After that I played a bunch of matches untill my intermission got stuck and ‘dedicated server had issues’. So I rebooted my game and was banned for 8:30 hours… what…??
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> > > Ok, I found the 2 Team Arena DNFs. It was followed by a Warzone DNF, but I don’t think that would have triggered the 8:30 ban since you played many games after that Warzone game. But interestingly, your last CTF game was also a DNF, where only two people on your team (including you) left, and you both weren’t doing so hot in the game (this suggests that you left rather than disconnected). But you say that you rebooted your console during an intermission, which would have only occurred after the game completed, meaning it should have registered as complete in your history. So I’m not fully following your story. Perhaps the banhammer kicked in for the CTF DNF during the intermission between games (though I’ve never heard of this happening).
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> > I never quit a game unless theres extreme lag or teammates betraying, idling, etc…
> > I never left a match after that Warzone game.
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> > And to make things worse, I’m now banned, again. I left 1 team-arena game, then I -completed- a BTB game but the moment the carnage report should’ve popped ,it said connection lost. Thus banning me for 24 hours…
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> The bansystem has delay from one game,so you got banned for your disconnect earlyer and not for the BTB game.

I know, but a 24h ban for 1 disconnect…? Why penalty’s for faulty server connections…

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> > > > > Ok so, today I quit 2 games in a row because of horrible lag and because some teammates already did (team-arena).
> > > > > I was banner for About 1 hour, ok fine. After that I played a bunch of matches untill my intermission got stuck and ‘dedicated server had issues’. So I rebooted my game and was banned for 8:30 hours… what…??
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> > > > Ok, I found the 2 Team Arena DNFs. It was followed by a Warzone DNF, but I don’t think that would have triggered the 8:30 ban since you played many games after that Warzone game. But interestingly, your last CTF game was also a DNF, where only two people on your team (including you) left, and you both weren’t doing so hot in the game (this suggests that you left rather than disconnected). But you say that you rebooted your console during an intermission, which would have only occurred after the game completed, meaning it should have registered as complete in your history. So I’m not fully following your story. Perhaps the banhammer kicked in for the CTF DNF during the intermission between games (though I’ve never heard of this happening).
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> > > I never quit a game unless theres extreme lag or teammates betraying, idling, etc…
> > > I never left a match after that Warzone game.
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> > > And to make things worse, I’m now banned, again. I left 1 team-arena game, then I -completed- a BTB game but the moment the carnage report should’ve popped ,it said connection lost. Thus banning me for 24 hours…
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> > The bansystem has delay from one game,so you got banned for your disconnect earlyer and not for the BTB game.
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> I know, but a 24h ban for 1 disconnect…? Why penalty’s for faulty server connections…

Well there are 3 disconnects in your last 30matches and if you ever recived an ban before it sume up.

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> > > Ok so, today I quit 2 games in a row because of horrible lag and because some teammates already did (team-arena).
> > > I was banner for About 1 hour, ok fine. After that I played a bunch of matches untill my intermission got stuck and ‘dedicated server had issues’. So I rebooted my game and was banned for 8:30 hours… what…??
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> > Ok, I found the 2 Team Arena DNFs. It was followed by a Warzone DNF, but I don’t think that would have triggered the 8:30 ban since you played many games after that Warzone game. But interestingly, your last CTF game was also a DNF, where only two people on your team (including you) left, and you both weren’t doing so hot in the game (this suggests that you left rather than disconnected). But you say that you rebooted your console during an intermission, which would have only occurred after the game completed, meaning it should have registered as complete in your history. So I’m not fully following your story. Perhaps the banhammer kicked in for the CTF DNF during the intermission between games (though I’ve never heard of this happening).
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> I never quit a game unless theres extreme lag or teammates betraying, idling, etc…
> I never left a match after that Warzone game.
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> And to make things worse, I’m now banned, again. I left 1 team-arena game, then I -completed- a BTB game but the moment the carnage report should’ve popped ,it said connection lost. Thus banning me for 24 hours…

Yeah, that’s normal banhammer behavior. You weren’t banned for the BTB game you finished, you were banned for the previous Team Arena game you left; it just took the banhammer 1 extra game to catch up. Seems like the banhammer is pretty sensitive towards you, so I would suggest that you stop leaving games for any reason. If you feel like your connection is consistently bad with lag and whatnot, I would then suggest research aspects of your connection to try and determine why you are seeing lag, using the following steps:
Current ISP (is your ISP the only one in your area? Is it known to have issues connecting to Halo 5 servers?)
Up/down speeds (what does your ISP say it should be, and what does speedtest say it actually is?)
Ping & Packet loss (measure here, and note that you’ll need to update Flash Player and Java, and don’t use Chrome)
Latency with Microsoft Azure servers (probably where the Halo 5 servers are; you can check here, and you can also test up/down speeds to the Azure servers if you want)

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> > > > > Ok so, today I quit 2 games in a row because of horrible lag and because some teammates already did (team-arena).
> > > > > I was banner for About 1 hour, ok fine. After that I played a bunch of matches untill my intermission got stuck and ‘dedicated server had issues’. So I rebooted my game and was banned for 8:30 hours… what…??
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> > > > Ok, I found the 2 Team Arena DNFs. It was followed by a Warzone DNF, but I don’t think that would have triggered the 8:30 ban since you played many games after that Warzone game. But interestingly, your last CTF game was also a DNF, where only two people on your team (including you) left, and you both weren’t doing so hot in the game (this suggests that you left rather than disconnected). But you say that you rebooted your console during an intermission, which would have only occurred after the game completed, meaning it should have registered as complete in your history. So I’m not fully following your story. Perhaps the banhammer kicked in for the CTF DNF during the intermission between games (though I’ve never heard of this happening).
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> I know, but a 24h ban for 1 disconnect…? Why penalty’s for faulty server connections…

You originally said you left that Team Arena game. Right here:

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> I never quit a game unless theres extreme lag or teammates betraying, idling, etc…
> I never left a match after that Warzone game.
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> And to make things worse, I’m now banned, again. I left 1 team-arena game, then I -completed- a BTB game but the moment the carnage report should’ve popped ,it said connection lost. Thus banning me for 24 hours…

I know getting banned isn’t fun, but please be honest when posting here. Trying to gain sympathy by making it seem like you didn’t actually quit does nothing to help you. And in the case of that Team Arena game you are referring to, it doesn’t look like a server error because only two people didn’t finish, and both of you weren’t doing so well in the game (which looks like intentionally leaving, for one reason or another).

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> > > > > > Ok so, today I quit 2 games in a row because of horrible lag and because some teammates already did (team-arena).
> > > > > > I was banner for About 1 hour, ok fine. After that I played a bunch of matches untill my intermission got stuck and ‘dedicated server had issues’. So I rebooted my game and was banned for 8:30 hours… what…??
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> > > > > Ok, I found the 2 Team Arena DNFs. It was followed by a Warzone DNF, but I don’t think that would have triggered the 8:30 ban since you played many games after that Warzone game. But interestingly, your last CTF game was also a DNF, where only two people on your team (including you) left, and you both weren’t doing so hot in the game (this suggests that you left rather than disconnected). But you say that you rebooted your console during an intermission, which would have only occurred after the game completed, meaning it should have registered as complete in your history. So I’m not fully following your story. Perhaps the banhammer kicked in for the CTF DNF during the intermission between games (though I’ve never heard of this happening).
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> > I never quit a game unless theres extreme lag or teammates betraying, idling, etc…
> > I never left a match after that Warzone game.
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> > And to make things worse, I’m now banned, again. I left 1 team-arena game, then I -completed- a BTB game but the moment the carnage report should’ve popped ,it said connection lost. Thus banning me for 24 hours…
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> I know getting banned isn’t fun, but please be honest when posting here. Trying to gain sympathy by making it seem like you didn’t actually quit does nothing to help you. And in the case of that Team Arena game you are referring to, it doesn’t look like a server error because only two people didn’t finish, and both of you were doing so well in the game (which looks like intentionally leaving, for one reason or another).

Chimera30, I appreciate help, but don’t start a ‘fight’ here. Because now you’re just acting like you’re all-knowing, implying that I’m just another kid that lies about stuff like this. “Trying to gain sympathy by making it seem like you didn’t actually quit”. Really, I don’t need that, you’re not helping me man…
I’m an adult, just like you (I hope). I’ve been playing Halo sinnce day 1. And I know my stuff, I know when I quit or when I get disconnected. Don’t claim things to be true/false unless Youre sitring right next to me.
And by the way, I have about 200mb down with 0 PL. It has to do with US/Europe connections.

Also red makes people angry. One thing the devs could do is change the colour of screens giving us messages that most probably will piss us off to a light blue colour so we’re not so pissed off. People will still be pissed off but it could save xboxes guys. Perfect storm of a late pizza, bad match, and sudden three day ban with an angry red message? My mate Alan threw his 360 out of his window and he didn’t even get banned it was just a bad match.