The official Halo 5 "Why was I banned?" thread

this game is a utter piece of garbage. you play at champ level and 1 person leaves after getting behind 2 kills and then you get banned for also leaving unless you want to destroy your kd. not to mention this game only matches solo and duo que players with full premades. fix your -Yoink- matchmaking system or no one is going to play this game. Having voice communication and a full team compared to not is a massive advantage worth way more than actual skill.

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> That’s when I’m getting banned (for no reason) smart guy, it’s happening mid game… When you wanna be the fun police, make sure you investigate correctly. Go back to your cave

What message are you receiving? You indicated you left a match and then received a ban, is that not he case? Is it my fault if you weren’t clear, kiddo? The message you received should indicate the behavior that caused your ban. The only exception I’m aware of is the ā€˜fireteam has changed’ one and I don’t think anyone is aware what is up with that one.

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Most people don’t want to play with quitters, particularly when it leaves them at a severe disadvantage. If you are playing badly, there is a chance you’ll get a second wind or provide enough of a distraction that your team can overcome. If you leave the match then suddenly your team is outnumbered and is placed at a disadvantage and your opponents are robbed of a fair match as they now have an artificial advantage. I’m a casual halo player and one of the few things I agree with the hardcore competitive crowd about is quitters. Everyone has things that come up now and then, but if its’ frequent enough to result in a ban then the quitter has left a lot of unhappy people in their wake.

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> I excuse for posting this here but I don’t want to make a whole thread for something simple.
> And no I don’t got banned,Im just wondering.

Betraying is a form of griefing. The betrayal ban is a griefing ban as far as I’m aware. This is where you are supposed to ask ban related questions.

Yesterday I was playing the new Action Sack playlist and received an important phone call so I had to quit the match. When I returned I was banned for 3 hrs. The funny thing is that it was my first game in like 2 weeks and I’m not someone that leaves matches. Any ideas why was that?

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> > > all these -Yoinking!- idiots saying you have quit so many in so many matches, nope my connection dropped, i think i quit mabie 2 of them because i had to go out, thanks for telling me that im only paying for the licence i wont be playing nor buying halo again, not being ripped off and getting -Yoink- all out of it
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> > Paying for a license to play a game applies to every video game ever; it’s not something specific to Halo or 343i. Every game is owned by it’s developer and publisher; when you purchase a game, you purchase a license to use that property for yourself (with stipulations, of course, like don’t make copies of it to sell on your own). For single player games, all you need to run it is the software on the disk or download, so essentially those licenses last forever. But with games that have multiplayer, the license only lasts as long as the game companies let it. This includes temporarily/permanently banning players from multiplayer, and also includes when game devs inevitably shut down servers for those games.
> > Example: I purchased Halo 2, but they shut the servers down on the original Halo 2 some time ago. Just because they took away my ability to play Halo 2 multiplayer doesn’t mean I can get a refund or sue them, because the multiplayer was never mine to begin with. I was just allowed to play it.
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> it does clear it up but its just the fact that they rub it in your face and its the big company punishing the users I just hate that, I don’t even see the point in banning people for quitting? Majority of people quitting are doing bad at the game so if they leave there’s a chance you would do better…

Halo is a big team game, losing a guy actually hurts you quite a bit and I can prove that in the high tier ranks. It’s much better to play passive if you’re doing bad rather than just making map control that much easier for the other team. So no, any quitting is not acceptable. Hence why they ban quitters, I have not seen any legit reasons to quit aside from a real life ā€œemergencyā€. If I were a quitter, I’d be happy they won’t perma ban people like other games do at least.

i dont think this is fair because i keep on getting banned(i dont really think thats a good reason) but how about
this eh? STOP THE BANHAMMER ITS ANNOYING

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> i dont think this is fair because i keep on getting banned(i dont really think thats a good reason) but how about
> this eh? STOP THE BANHAMMER ITS ANNOYING

Wow, you have a lot of Dnf’s

If 343 wants people to continue playing Halo 5 they need to make the maximum ban time no longer than 20 minutes. I’ve heard of people getting 8 hour bans, 8 HOURS! That is entirely unreasonable, I get it quitters should be punished, but if they quit due to being in an unfair situation, I feel that’s justified to leave. Take 20 minutes in the corner for quitting, ok. 8 hours is a farce and cannnot/should not be defended in ANY way. I’ve been hit with a 56 minute banhammer, fine, I can wait. If I EVER get an 8 hour ban for quitting a match in an unfair situation, you’d better believe that I’ll dump Halo 5 for good, for literally any other video game out, including ET for the Atari.

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> If 343 wants people to continue playing Halo 5 they need to make the maximum ban time no longer than 20 minutes. I’ve heard of people getting 8 hour bans, 8 HOURS! That is entirely unreasonable, I get it quitters should be punished, but if they quit due to being in an unfair situation, I feel that’s justified to leave. Take 20 minutes in the corner for quitting, ok. 8 hours is a farce and cannnot/should not be defended in ANY way. I’ve been hit with a 56 minute banhammer, fine, I can wait. If I EVER get an 8 hour ban for quitting a match in an unfair situation, you’d better believe that I’ll dump Halo 5 for good, for literally any other video game out, including ET for the Atari.

Just so you know, a player’s ban record never gets reset, and each ban is always longer than the last. And there is a tendency for the banhammer to be more strict towards those who have been banned before. So, if you continue to quit matches (even if only ones where it is not an even match), it’s highly likely you could eventually rack up an 8 hour ban.

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> > If 343 wants people to continue playing Halo 5 they need to make the maximum ban time no longer than 20 minutes. I’ve heard of people getting 8 hour bans, 8 HOURS! That is entirely unreasonable, I get it quitters should be punished, but if they quit due to being in an unfair situation, I feel that’s justified to leave. Take 20 minutes in the corner for quitting, ok. 8 hours is a farce and cannnot/should not be defended in ANY way. I’ve been hit with a 56 minute banhammer, fine, I can wait. If I EVER get an 8 hour ban for quitting a match in an unfair situation, you’d better believe that I’ll dump Halo 5 for good, for literally any other video game out, including ET for the Atari.
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Well then f**k Halo 5 and all of it’s BS.

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I never indicated I left a match early, I said I was getting banned for NO APPARENT REASON. The only reason you see a DNF is because 343 banned me mid game, therefore I couldn’t finish.
You obviously don’t read through and think through what people type in their posts… You just wanna make assumptions and try to make people look like liars in the process. So, like I said - go back to your cave… Idiot. Or should I say troglodyte.
343, ban this dense numbskull

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Yet of course, you don’t provide the information I asked for. You were not banned for no reason. What was the message you received? What did it tell you?

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The reason I was given, was a non issue… A none issue is a none existent issue - 343, in game says I was banned for quitting games… when I definitely did not quit any games. This is the problem I’ve conveyed from the beginning. Why is that so hard to see for you?
So I’ll say again. The (false) reason you see a DNF is because I was banned mid game, therefore I was not able to finish the game. I do not quit games, sir. Do you ever stop and think that 343 may have a flawed banhammer system? Obviously not, since your responses are based on what you see on a automated stat sheet and not on what the person’s complaint is actually saying.
please stop replying as it is apparent you are no help at all. You’re responses are impersonal and distant from the actual people who post on here… Last time I’ll say this - return to your cave

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When it comes to human behavior I can’t be as exact in determining the cause as I can with other things. Is the ban hammer flawed? Of course most things are. Do I consider it more likely that you were being dishonest about quitting or disconnecting than that the ban hammer picked someone who has been vitriolic (if laughably so) since moment one and randomly chose to ban them for something they didn’t do and then ā€˜fix’ their game history to indicate that it was in the right. That is a tougher question…

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> The following FAQ should answer some of your questions about Halo 5 bans. We will update this FAQ as necessary.
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> I received an in-game message saying I have been banned. Why?
> If you are checking this page because of an in-game message, it is likely that you have been banned for violating the terms of use and/or committing a code of conduct violation. It is also possible, in the case of an especially egregious violation, that your Xbox One system itself is now banned from Matchmaking. The duration of this ban is based on the type, frequency or nature of the committed violation. In most cases, Custom Games will still be available. In extreme cases, they will not.
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> Ban duration will be shown on the red ban screen as the ban hammer strikes. First offences are generally low and last only a few minutes, but will increase in duration incrementally with each subsequent ban. The ban timer itself displays times as follows -
> Days : Hours : Minutes : Seconds
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> What types of actions can result in a ban?
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> - Idling through games, habitual quitting/suiciding/betraying, or any other type of unsociable and unsportsmanlike behavior.
> - Impersonating a 343 Industries or Microsoft employee on Xbox LIVE with intent to defraud or cause harm to other players.
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> You weren’t. The ban system runs at least 1 game behind so your ban will have been placed for a previous offence. After completing your next event, whether it is a matchmaking game, custom game, forge session, spectating a friend or viewing theatre, the system will then show you a message telling you that you have been banned. As it takes more than a single offence to earn a ban you will never be banned for leaving one match, it will be multiple offences that have led to a ban being placed on your account.
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> I shouldn’t be banned. My brother/sister/cousin/dad/mom/friend must’ve logged on with my account and done bad things. Will you please reverse my ban?
> If this is indeed the case, we do understand your frustration. However, it is your sole responsibility to keep your account information secure and not share it with others who would abuse it. We have no way of detecting who is playing with your account, and if your gamertag is caught making naughty, you will be banned. Those are the rules.
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> I didn’t do anything wrong, and you can’t prove it. Will you please reverse my ban?
> Our automated system builds up a digital case of wrongdoing before any ban is enacted. If you accidentally disconnect a time or two, you won’t get banned. Instead the system looks for patterns that can’t happen accidentally. If the banhammer detects enough wrongdoing, you were doing wrong.
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> Will posting in this thread guarantee my ban will be lifted and that someone will respond personally to every post?
> Unfortunately, no. We simply don’t have enough eyes, ears and typing hands to respond to every single post. However, the community will help keep you honest. You have a public game history for everyone to see. If you post you were banned unjustly, the community is in their rights to check out your history to confirm or deny your claims.Please, just keep it clean.
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> The purpose of this thread is to keep all questions pertaining to bans in one place. Without a megathread for such questions, the rest of the forum will almost certainly turn into a cavalcade of ban questions.
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> If you were banned and think you have a case, this is the ONLY thread you should post in. If other moderators see posts pertaining to bans in other threads, they will either be deleted outright or a kind-hearted mod might just move the posts to this thread.
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> If any users are caught habitually spamming ban threads in other threads, we will consider that a violation of the forum Terms of Use. You will risk being banned here as well. We don’t want to have to ban anyone, but we do want an open, honest and positive place to post about all things Halo, so a thread like this is necessary.
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So I read through it, Its been at least a month since I really played halo 5, and I only quit two matches the whole day, I’ve played a bunch of matches without quiting after the second leave, I was ripped out a game before it ended and said I was banned, there is no time limit (it’s gone now) but I’m curious as to how I was banned cause leaving two games seems harsh

I love the idea of banning but WTF!??!!? I get dropped from the server and get a ban??

i get mm banned because someone was sending me invites and it was kicking me out of mm. WTF really?!?! this is so stupid.

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if you love it, then enjoy your ban…

So, after playing 4 hours of Action Sack, I had to meet someone thus meaning I had to quit the game. I returned hoping to play some more, only to find I was banned for 8 hours. And this happens every single time I quit a game nowadays. Think about it. No mater what we all have a reason to quit the game. Whether your being cornered by tryhards in Warzone or you had to go for whatever reason. And it blows my mind to think you get banned for 1/3 of a day just because you left a couple games. I’m more than happy to be banned for say 20 mins max for quitting, but 8 hours is abysmal.343i please respond, you read every post so read this one twice. Three times maybe. Jk four min.Sincerely, TheGreatPotato9

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good buy 100 gb of space
HELLO NEW GAMES

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> > Im sick of being baned for no reason. I have all my games recorded other than xbox. Fix it one game i was winning and then the ban hammer stuck i dont understand that i did not quick and i have game clips and recordings to say im right

I did not quit it was disconnected . well see you are not Microsoft
I’m getting them to look into this issue hahah but you are hahahah good luck getting me to download this again
343 is a dead company like halo