The official Halo 5 "Why was I banned?" thread

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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> > To all the people complaining it’s unfair they’ve been banned for “unintentional disconnections” rather than “intentional quitting”, sorry but you still deserve the ban. IF you’re telling the truth about accidental network disconnects, that’s unfortunate, but the effect on the other players in the game (they’re now down a player) is the same. So, you need to figure out how to fix your network connection. It’s true that the servers are glitchy sometimes, but not enough to get you banned unless you’re also doing something else bad.
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> > People need to realize something – the banhammer isn’t a “punishment” for unsporting behavior. It’s a tool to discourage quitting or disconnections, whatever the cause, and therefore MAKE THE GAME MORE FUN FOR THE OTHER PLAYERS WHO DIDN’T QUIT.
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> > In short - the banhammer is to HELP those players who stay in every game, play like good sports, and actually try to win, whatever their skill level. It ruins the game for those players when other people quit, betray, idle, disconnect, etc.
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> How does that make sense though? If someone has poor internet connectivity for some reason and keep getting dropped out you just expect them to stop trying to play so people won’t lose a team member if they get disconnected? That’s totally backwards thinking, “let’s punish people because their ISP sucks but they’re fans and are just trying to play and enjoy our game that we made for them, but screw them for unintentionally disconnecting they deserve to be banned.”

Clearly you didn’t read my post. To quote myself: bans aren’t a “punishment” for quitting, nor a “punishment” for having regular connectivity problems. They’re to help/reward the players who always finish their games from having to deal with DNFers. If someone is regularly not finishing games for ANY reason, it sucks to play on their team, so I’m happy they are getting hit by bans until their either change their quitting behavior or try to troubleshoot their internet connection.

It’s true that 343 needs to improve the servers to make the occasional “truly accidental” disconnection less likely. But lots of folks are playing this game just fine without disconnection issues, so connection issues are not 100% 343’s fault. My connection isn’t that great but rarely do I lag out of games. If that’s actually happening to you, please try and troubleshoot, try a wired cable connection to your xbone, etc. Or, perhaps folks are lying and claiming all their DNFs came from disconnections, when really they are quitting several games every week - in that case, please stop quitting and try to win, even if you’re losing. Comeback games are always the most fun anyway.

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Not sure if it’s been covered yet, but it’s darn near impossible to play grifball without betrayals. Everyone is going ape for hammer kills, in a smallish area, and the hammer is… indiscriminate.

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I’ve been banned many times for rage quitting lagfests, or when its 1 vs 4, or when they matchmake me versus whole teams of Platnum 5s & Diamond ranks, just to save my K/D. I just play Gears when that happens.

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i get a banned everyday. I quit one game, ill play another and at the end of the game ill get a ban. Because i quit ONE GAME before that

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> To all the people complaining it’s unfair they’ve been banned for “unintentional disconnections” rather than “intentional quitting”, sorry but you still deserve the ban. IF you’re telling the truth about accidental network disconnects, that’s unfortunate, but the effect on the other players in the game (they’re now down a player) is the same. So, you need to figure out how to fix your network connection. It’s true that the servers are glitchy sometimes, but not enough to get you banned unless you’re also doing something else bad.
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> People need to realize something – the banhammer isn’t a “punishment” for unsporting behavior. It’s a tool to discourage quitting or disconnections, whatever the cause, and therefore MAKE THE GAME MORE FUN FOR THE OTHER PLAYERS WHO DIDN’T QUIT.
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> In short - the banhammer is to HELP those players who stay in every game, play like good sports, and actually try to win, whatever their skill level. It ruins the game for those players when other people quit, betray, idle, disconnect, etc.

To all you people who think All dnf’ers deserve to be banned. fact is that I had dnf’s under my profile, but also finished those games and no one had to deal with any early quitting. It was at the results menu after game was over that I had the “failed to retrieve data” message and it resulted in posted dNf on the official boards. RzR J3ST3R you claim “the BAN HAMMER is there to help…” I strongly dissagree, a hammer is used to strike and inflict destruction and in this case used as a weapon. how does it help everyone? some of you people seriously need to educate yourself more on what is really going on with these problems, if you are not experiencing these problems, how do you know how it feel? and how can you judge? only a child would think in that way imo. Sadly you think you know everything, a sensible adult would stop and use critical thinking to analyze the situation with true reason and not with a bias (hurt some to help others) attitude.

[play full halo session+ failed to retreive data at end results menu = posted DNF / you telling us we deserved to be banned because you misunderstood it for early quiting. gt(fudge)o]I think you just want to stand over others to belittle/anger them; typical childhood behavior. see down at the bottom of this page, there is a pending rating for 17+ mature audience.

if it is not an immature issue then this whole operation programed to halt/ban customers with bad internet connections is a form of discrimination and should be dealt with extreme caution. my advice to anyone is to be aware of future games that impliment systems to silently discriminate against internet connectivity. 343, it is no secret that this is all about eliminating players with possible laggy internet. all these pages of reported problems, yea that is what i assume is going on. secondly, you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that people that are mainly abusing the quiting,DNF features would have mostly “wins and dnf’s” in their game history not an equal mixture of wins and losses. And this is last halo game I will ever buy. You people with your “richy rich” internet can have halo all to yourself if you want from this point forward; because im sure a game company this big knows that many people inflicted by a ban strike are actually experiencing internet connections that are not quite suitable for their halo guardians.

lastly: Please don’t come here to tell people to fix their internet or assume that people with internet below halo Guardians standards are poor people. Because like myself, many people own and live in areas where the best internet is affordable but not available. Again, read the little sign at the bottom that states 17+, for this content may not be appropriate for children.

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have no idea why I was banned. I very rarely quit a match, although I did quit one tonight. I finished losing match (I played horribly) and upon match completion was kicked to the Arena playlist selection screen and informed I was banned. This has happened to me once before since first buying Halo 5. I have no idea why. Would love an explanation if possible but I think it’s got to be a mistake.

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The bans are a little too strict. I was lagging like crazy in griftball (a social playlist where players are replaced if they leave) and ended up killing my own players on accident, so I quit the match to reset my internet connection. I get back on and I see a ban on my account. There should be something in place to tell if people are having network issues. It’s not hard to tell. If you magically move across the map, your having network problems. The computer can see this. Quitting one match isn’t that big of a deal, quitting multiple matches in a day is.

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It seems that this thread is not about helping people who feel they have been wrongfully banned. Proven that there are several posts replicating 1) a ban while in forge mode 2) banned because having internet connectivity issues 3) and/or failed to retrieve data. While no 343 representative has yet to acknowledge these ongoing issues, I have been thinking of a way to avoid this madness altogether. These people only use posted dnf’s to assume that bans are justified. DNFs Can be replicated by halo’s inability to retrieve data at the end of the game session (server issues). So this alone would be unthoughtful and unfair to ban all players over multiple dnf’s by mistakenly assuming they quit games early.

Don’t fret people Robin Hood is here, I have the Ultimate solution for wrongful bans. Please note: this method does not work and is not intended for people who intentionally rage quit and stand idle with Halo Guardians multiplayers sessions.

Follow these instructions:

  1. Use a secondary xbox family profile.

  2. Decent rewards from req packs are very scarce. im level 50+ and still have not received much special armor; just mainly different color variations of the same stuff. While req pack tanks and wraiths, ect are usually instantly blown away by opponents anyways. so there isn’t much to lose when starting a fresh new profile.

  3. Use profile 1 and 2 or 3 to enjoy non interupted play-time with halo. If you get banned for unjustified reasons (forge mode bans, failed retrieving data bans, internet connectivity bans, some resulting in excessive DNF), just use your other profile.

  4. People who abuse the quitting features because they don’t want to lose will not benefit from starting over. secondly, people who are constantly idle are typically not too engaged in this game to go through these extra step processes.

  5. Some people who just want to enjoy the game they purchased, without being held up by some worthless ban hammer rule that has been proven to be ridiculously unfair towards fair gamers. And if you rather enjoy having the pure unstoppable thrill and enjoyment from playing Halo over the value of some underwhelming req pack or being extremely obsessed with “win” ratings, then creating a new profile is for you.

This does in fact works because yesterday I replicated the forge mode ban under a new profile; that profile was banned for 21 minutes after leaving a (non online mp) bookmarked friends forge map. What does 343 have to say about this?

your welcome.

edited for reply below:
quoted fromCivilTub00166 "needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few…"
And WTF is with your statement of what a Hammer is. I hope you know it’s called a hammer for historical Halo reasons, not as an aggressive and harmful term, look it up."

Okay class, the definition of a “hammer” is when you create multiple gamer profiles just to go onto the mp game in rouge fashion. While doing so, you purposely quit or just leave your character standing idle in sessions; rinse and repeat until the people are upset. The purpose for this hammer is to deliver a message when all reasoning has been exhausted. for an instance, people have been ridiculed for not having the best internet service, discriminating against your gamer profile with a ban (not nice). Therefore, some angry people who paid for this game will begin to rebel against your cause rxr j3st3r/CivilTub00166, making your game session even more miserable to deal with. Is that what you want CivilTub00166? Because it sure as heck seems like you are all for throwing fire at others, but could you handle if it is returned back to you. rxr j3st3r or CivilTub00166 it is people like you that will anger others to go rouge and ultimately cause more problems with intentional quitting and idling because they refuse to conform to your false reality “needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few…” that comment is nothing more than “WAR” fuel.

Like I stated, the Ultimate Solution steps will end all your discriminatory implants; YOINK that.

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> This is a serious joke… but hey no wonder xbox is being outsold 2 to 1 by the PS4. Which one has some weird “automated policy?” hmmmm.

This is a Halo thing, not and Xbox thing

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> > 2533274906308237;263:
> > To all the people complaining it’s unfair they’ve been banned for “unintentional disconnections” rather than “intentional quitting”, sorry but you still deserve the ban. IF you’re telling the truth about accidental network disconnects, that’s unfortunate, but the effect on the other players in the game (they’re now down a player) is the same. So, you need to figure out how to fix your network connection. It’s true that the servers are glitchy sometimes, but not enough to get you banned unless you’re also doing something else bad.
> >
> > People need to realize something – the banhammer isn’t a “punishment” for unsporting behavior. It’s a tool to discourage quitting or disconnections, whatever the cause, and therefore MAKE THE GAME MORE FUN FOR THE OTHER PLAYERS WHO DIDN’T QUIT.
> >
> > In short - the banhammer is to HELP those players who stay in every game, play like good sports, and actually try to win, whatever their skill level. It ruins the game for those players when other people quit, betray, idle, disconnect, etc.
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> To all you people who think All dnf’ers deserve to be banned. fact is that I had dnf’s under my profile, but also finished those games and no one had to deal with any early quitting. It was at the results menu after game was over that I had the “failed to retrieve data” message and it resulted in posted dNf on the official boards. RzR J3ST3R you claim “the BAN HAMMER is there to help…” I strongly dissagree, a hammer is used to strike and inflict destruction and in this case used as a weapon. how does it help everyone? some of you people seriously need to educate yourself more on what is really going on with these problems, if you are not experiencing these problems, how do you know how it feel? and how can you judge? only a child would think in that way imo. Sadly you think you know everything, a sensible adult would stop and use critical thinking to analyze the situation with true reason and not with a bias (hurt some to help others) attitude.
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> [play full halo session+ failed to retreive data at end results menu = posted DNF / you telling us we deserved to be banned because you misunderstood it for early quiting. gt(fudge)o]I think you just want to stand over others to belittle/anger them; typical childhood behavior. see down at the bottom of this page, there is a pending rating for 17+ mature audience.
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> if it is not an immature issue then this whole operation programed to halt/ban customers with bad internet connections is a form of discrimination and should be dealt with extreme caution. my advice to anyone is to be aware of future games that impliment systems to silently discriminate against internet connectivity. 343, it is no secret that this is all about eliminating players with possible laggy internet. all these pages of reported problems, yea that is what i assume is going on. secondly, you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that people that are mainly abusing the quiting,DNF features would have mostly “wins and dnf’s” in their game history not an equal mixture of wins and losses. And this is last halo game I will ever buy. You people with your “richy rich” internet can have halo all to yourself if you want from this point forward; because im sure a game company this big knows that many people inflicted by a ban strike are actually experiencing internet connections that are not quite suitable for their halo guardians.
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> lastly: Please don’t come here to tell people to fix their internet or assume that people with internet below halo Guardians standards are poor people. Because like myself, many people own and live in areas where the best internet is affordable but not available. Again, read the little sign at the bottom that states 17+, for this content may not be appropriate for children.

I have had plenty “did not retrieve data” at the end of games, IDK if i have a DNF on my stats for them, but have never been banned once for it. I.E. last week i had three-four games in a row it didn’t load (first time that’s happened to me, weird) never got banned. That’s happened here and there. SO to people saying they dot banned for that, i find it hard to believe you. The three four times i have been I knowing left to help family in the middle of the game or quit some. I took my chances knowing it would happen and accept my punishment like a man and an adult with reasoning abilities knowing i just pulled a -Yoink- move and harmed my team of now 3 people and made the game less fair for them . As you claim. And if you are having issues due to your internet problems and what not, i do feel bad for you i am sure all of us have be it while playing halo or not. But you are still harming more players than just you who are trying to play and be competitive while playing the game. But stop being selfish and only thinking about urself, why not be an adult and not a child and work to fix the issues your having with your connectivity . as you claim

“the needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few…”

And WTF is with your statement of what a Hammer is. I hope you know it’s called a hammer for historical Halo reasons, not as an aggressive and harmful term, look it up.

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I wonder how many times you can quit in are a before being banned?

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This is a terrible design, the person in charge should be fired!

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I really hate the ban hammer.
I don’t betray teammates over a power weapon ever.
I don’t quit games because my team isn’t going to win.

But last night it was really late and I was about to fall asleep mid-game. So, I shut off my Xbox and went to bed.

I woke up to the very start of a 12-hour ban.

Please lift the ban, I planned on actually playing some Arena today.

My Game History will show DNFs in Custom Games. Thats it. I quit one Team Slayer game on 2/29 and got banned.

When you look even further, there are pages of completed games in the arena for weeks with a few DNFs here and there. If that warrants an all day ban from my favorite game, than i would appreciate it if i got my money back.

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> This is a terrible design, the person in charge should be fired!

Yes of course, the individual with free time during normal working hours, implying a young age or lack of business experience, says someone should be fired because he didn’t like how something happened. Classic.

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I’ve never been banned lol I don’t understand why this is such a problem

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> I’ve never been banned lol I don’t understand why this is such a problem

It’s really not. Almost everyone who does got banned for a reason. I’m sure there are a few cases where someone shouldn’t have gotten banned, but its not as bad as all of the people who have been banned try to make it seem

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I still get this server disconnects right after my matches are over which is leaving me with leaves or win/losses that counts as leaves. Now I am banned again because of losing connection to the server… Anyway to fix this? Can’t really understand why this keep happening me.

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> I really hate the ban hammer.
> I don’t betray teammates over a power weapon ever.
> I don’t quit games because my team isn’t going to win.
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> But last night it was really late and I was about to fall asleep mid-game. So, I shut off my Xbox and went to bed.
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> I woke up to the very start of a 12-hour ban.
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> Please lift the ban, I planned on actually playing some Arena today.
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> THE FACT THIS IS MY 2ND POST TO THIS FORUM SHOULD SHOW I WOULDN’T BE HERE TO LIE ABOUT HOW I GOT BANNED

You know we can see your game history, filled with DNF’s right?
3/1 - 1 DNF
2/29 - 2 DNF
2/28 - 1 DNF
2/27 - 4 DNF
2/22 - 2 DNF
2/21 - 1 DNF

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Awesome! I was banned for 30 minutes for leaving a game AFTER someone else left first… Such bs.

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Awesome! I was banned for 30 minutes for leaving a game AFTER someone else left first… Such bs.