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If people buys? Did you mean buy moron? If you buy a car and violate the law for a simple parking ticket or speeding does the car company come and take the car? That is a big fat no so this is not only wrong but should be illegal. I payed 60$ for this product you cannot just tell me I canât use it.
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> This has gone too far I will be very cautious on how to spend my money on halo from this point moving forwardâŚ
No one has called you a liar that I am aware of. We have merely pointed out your game history, reminded you of the appropriate place to post your complaints, and pointed out that the rules include excessive disconnects. Youâve been given advice on how to find information on how to improve your connection and reduce disconnects. Others and I have all repeatedly tried to help you and youâve proceeded to rant endlessly.
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> If people buys? Did you mean buy moron? If you buy a car and violate the law for a simple parking ticket or speeding does the car company come and take the car? That is a big fat no so this is not only wrong but should be illegal. I payed 60$ for this product you cannot just tell me I canât use it. like I said if this continues to happen I will file a lawsuit and get my money back.
No, but if you lease a car and violate the terms of your contract then you will have your car removed. There isnât any need to insult whomever you were aiming at with that. As I said before you bought a license to play on-line. 343 are within there rights to remove it whenever they see fit. They set out rules; no afking, no quitting, no excessive disconnects, and no griefing. If you fail to live up to those standards, then the resulting ban is the consequence for your action. If you think you have ground for a lawsuit that is your right, however I think you will find difficulty finding a lawyer willing to take your case (unless you pay them in advance) and imo it likely wonât end in your favor.
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> I keep getting lag banned and itâs really frustrating. Some times it says that I disconnected from game server and thatâs OK because I donât think it counts against you. Very recently I. E. The last three days my connection seems to be garbage. Iâve done all the self test diagnostic things on xbox. Anyone else getting this problem lately. Also is there a way to check how long a ban lasts? Sorry for the long post
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You may wish to use the search feature to find other threads about improving your connection or reducing disconnects. I know Live itself was having issues a couple of days ago, however there is a chance that there is something local with your ISP. I occasionally have issue when people attempt to illegally tap into the cable line in my area which leads to a reduction in signal strength and it takes me a bit to get the guilty parties disconnected.
Hi Halo,
So I recently decided I wanted to play Halo again after a few hours, and I come back to realize I had been banned for three days. I didnât do anything, I literally had just signed in. I have video proof of what happened, so I hope Halo would contact me on this.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > Hey. So I just bought an xbox one and Halo 5 last night. After I spent all evening and most of the night downloading and installing updates, I played a couple matches. I went to bed and passed the controller to my brother who went on to play several matches and quit a good portion of them. I didnât play at all today since I was out of the house. I got on this evening I find myself with a 3 hour ban. Apparently he played even more while I was out today and got banned a few more times.
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> > > > > > > > > What we know about the system is that it is supposed to look for patterns of infractions that arenât likely to be accidental (habitual quitting, suicides, betraying, etc.). According to the info on the first page, occasional infractions shouldnât trigger. Myself, for instance: Iâve never been banned, but Iâve been booted twice from Grifball for too many betrayals. However, after getting booted from those games (the boots were months apart), I was more careful in subsequent games, and even if I got another betrayal, it didnât boot me again. I can only assume something similar occurs with the banhammer.
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> > > > > > if you are not sure then you need to stop defending something you are not sure about: All these detection algorithms you claim or heard from someone is totally absurd. All halo5 do is âlookâ at the rate of DNFâs then strike bans and there is nothing sophisticated about that, you need to stop trying to trick the community into thinking otherwise. Anyone with good common sense would know better.
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> For someone who, according to what you said earlier, has only ever had a 15 sec ban, you are getting worked up over nothing. I mean, anyone can read the posts you and I have made and see who is being rude to whom. I canât tell if you are trying to instigate or are legitimately unable to fully comprehend the meaning of my words, so Iâll just recap my points from my last post as plainly and clearly as I can:
> 1) Only one of your videos worked.
> 2) The working video showed severe lag before you disconnected; probably not a purposeful quit.
> 3) Cross referencing the video with your game history shows only 2 people did not finish that game. This suggests that it was not a major server problem.
> 4) The video did not prove anything about the pattern-detecting nature of the banhammer. It was just a video of someone lagging and then disconnecting.
> 5) Waypoint users are limited in what we can do. Banned players come here thinking they can get the bans reversed. This is not the case. For the most part, users here are only able to view history and draw conclusions based in limited info to keep each other honest. That doesnât mean Iâm calling you a liar; that means, in general, the first thing we check when someone has claimed an unjust ban is their game history to see if it checks out with what they say in their post. Sometimes, there are contradictions between what someone posts here and what their history looks like. Other times, the game history appears normal and without infraction.
> Is the banhammer perfect? No, of course not. It seems pretty strict when it ought not be and not strict enough in other times. Iâm not âdefendingâ the banhammer; I am merely using what information is available to try to determine the logic that could be behind why someone got banned. I do this because, while the banhammer isnât perfect, neither are people, and I am skeptical about anyone who posts here claiming that their ban is entirely not their fault.
> I suggest before responding (if youâre going to) that you take a deep breath and carefully, carefully, read over this reply a second time, and if you find anything Iâve said to be confusing, let me know.
folks, what we have here is a legitimate complaint from the ban system. However, chimera would rather write an entire essay in order to mask the obvious flaws in this ban system instead of simply acknowledging the flaws up front. I do understand the ban policy and also know that some players want to abuse the system. The ban hammer must be revised in order to accurately punish the real abusers (habitual quitters). however it currently destroys the gameplay for both quitters and victims as well. the sad way to handle this situation is to send regular members such as chimera and comedy here to act as âBan Policeâ with no solid proof for their accusations. and while you two think you are working for the greater good, you are actually destroying the halo community. I urge you two to gain knowledge and stop now, yes we want functional running servers, full teams with no quitters; but at the same time we donât want to diminish the halo community. Chimera, remember you came to me with that âkeep you honestâ -Yoink- âwell designed inaccurate accusations.â is a sophisticated category of âfoolish wrongful blameââŚ
I did not lease this game is payed for it in full! You can assume whatever you want. Preventing me from using something I own doesnât stand a chance in court. I did not physically sign anything or was informed otherwise when I purchased the game.
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Never have been anything wrong with my Internet connection, as i have stated before, I played uncharted on ps4 and forza6 on xbox with absolutely no interruption; but you disappeared with no response after i said that. Im very well knowledgeable on how my internet works especially when one game only has problems staying connected consistently. This has nothing to do with bandwidth (2mb is all that is required), you want these gamers to go into the ISP service router and open ports for this game. this is a very dangerous procedure and 343i would never recommend this -Yoink-. Again, what you are trying to convey here is nonsense. But you proceed to do it but; I warn Folks, donât be tricked to tamper with your router opening port because this game failed to meet compatibility with recommended settings. this may help connections with halo but risks serious harm to the security of your home network.
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> So I recently decided I wanted to play Halo again after a few hours, and I come back to realize I had been banned for three days. I didnât do anything, I literally had just signed in. I have video proof of what happened, so I hope Halo would contact me on this.
Trust me they wonât do anything because the customer is worthless to them. If they were concerned you wouldnât have to deal with this. They have single handedly destroyed the Halo franchise by turning it into an authoritarian dictatorship.
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> > > This has gone too far I will be very cautious on how to spend my money on halo from this point moving forwardâŚ
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Again weâve tried to help you. If you fail to utilize that help it is an issue with you, not anyone else. I have never given any direct advice on how to improve your connection or reduce disconnects, Iâve directed people to search for it themselves. I do my best not to make statements outside of my areas of expertise. You are welcome to continue moaning about the issue, but that wonât change anything. The rules are set. If you fail to meet those standards you have to deal with the consequence that follow.
Truth here: learn and be informed
folks if you are having connectivity issues it is not necessarily your fault.
The largest cause of multiplayer connectivity issues is ânoiseâ this internet noise is uncontrollable by the user. it is considered traffic overload that occurs from your ISP. your ISP, miicrosoft and 343i all were aware of this before they delivered this game to youâŚ
So, when someone tell you to fix your internet; they are just being funny or they are uninformed and need to educate themselves before making those absurd accusations.
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You have DNFS for 7 our of your last 30 matches (Discounting your customs) that is likely why you were banned. Finish your matches and you shouldnât get banned in the future.
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How exactly are you trying to help me? You say that you never given any direct advice to improve connections, well lets just keep this 100, honest okay.
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/e0d9938206f04a598ce84f2c8cadce02/topics/the-official-halo-5-why-was-i-banned-thread/19fa6556-e0b1-4248-b817-b3a99d0af5bf/posts?page=130#post2599"In the future either tag me or actually quote me if you want my attention, please. Iâve had a handful of disconnects since launch and I live in a fairly rural area. I certainly have not had a number of disconnects equivalent to 4 out of thirty matches. As I said if you believe that those were all disconnects and not quits, then I would work to resolve that problem. There are many threads that relate to improving your connection to the servers. There are many things you can do. You say you have a wired connection. You should make sure the port you are using is the best option, make sure your nat is open, make sure that you arenât experiencing issues on your connection that are transitory. As I said there are many threads on this topic with people who offer better solutions than I could in this case.".
You see comedy, you are not an official representative from 343i so it is best for you not to encourage people to open ports that would damage their network system. and stop trying to change the subject to try and label me as someone who doesnât understand the rules, you are being rude and inconsiderate again!
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folks here is true advice: if your nat is open then traffic is safe, if your nat is moderate then noise traffic is semi safe, if your nat is closed then traffic is not safe. do not tamper with your nat! these people that tell you to do so have no credibility and have no clue what they are talking about.
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Where did I tell you to open a port? Where did I tell you how to do any of that? I gave you someone a few options, not direct advice.
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Again Where did I say to open a port? Reading Is fundamental.
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âmake sure your nat is open,â yes reading is fundamental, also writing something you have no clue about is sad. comedy I shall volunteer to give you a lesson here. opening ports is required to open your nat. The safety of this procedure has been debunked even by Game developers themselves. Users have no control when the internet traffic or ânoiseâ gets congested. When this happens the nat will automatically close for security reasons. Closed nat will likely cause game disconnects in halo5; not because your internet lost connection but it takes more time for data to pass the added security check and ultimately unable to keep pace with live multiplayer sessions. We then get lag + game disconections+ ban+ dnf+ then uninformed comedyshermit pointing wrongful blame at the victims. Hey I know that some people abuse the system, but comedy you need to learn how to accurately address the issues properly.
Hello,
Iâve been playing Halo a lot this week and have received multiple bans for no reason, Iâve had issues during matches were the game has lagged me out of the match, or, Iâve finished a match and then received a ban after the match had finished when I havenât left any matches.
Please sort this out as this has happened everyday this week that I have played and I am now banned for 8hrs.
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> I did not lease this game is payed for it in full! You can assume whatever you want. Preventing me from using something I own doesnât stand a chance in court. I did not physically sign anything or was informed otherwise when I purchased the game.
You didnât buy the software though. You may own a physical disc or digital data, but the copyrights of the software belong to 343 and Microsoft. You buy a software licence to use the software, in this case a game [No different to the software agreement you accept when you install and use Windows or Photoshop or other software]. The licence comes with a set of terms you agree to and 343 / Microsoft are well within their rights to terminate that agreement if you violate any of those terms. This also means they are within their rights to ban you from the game if you break their rules, as noted by the matchmaking rules pinned in various forums and the ban details the released before the game launched.
To everyone else - the ban system is basically the same system that Bungie had in operation for years. They did not intervene on the ban hammer, if it dropped it was likely just. The main difference now is that tech is more sophisticated on all fronts. That means from both player and developer perspective. The amount of data we send has increased probably more than tenfold. Sure mistakes will likely happen, no system is or can be perfect, but most likely scenario with the increase in ban complaints these days is that people are finally being caught foe their misdeeds that they used to get away with and arenât happy.
We are limited to know in depth knowledge about the ban system because the more that is released, the higher chance it has of being exploited and ruining the game for others.
<mark>edit: added some additional info, fixed typos</mark>
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> Will being disconnected by lagging out of a game cause a ban, or count against me, aside from losing whatever XP or RP boost I had used?
Oh yeah it does. Even if the crash is on their side. Because 343 donât care about gamer. Real -Yoink-.
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> I canât believe these people can look at my history of DNFs after receiving a 15 second ban and call me a liar! âkeep me honestâ?!?!?! with no proof of a lie!!! (yet you admit that you donât believe Iâm a habitual quitter; well that doesnât me a -Yoinking!- liar then?!?) some in community are very disrespectful
> This has gone too far I will be very cautious on how to spend my money on halo from this point moving forwardâŚ
If youâre going to bite the hand thatâs trying to help you, maybe youâre better off not spending money on Halo.
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> > > > Again weâve tried to help you. If you fail to utilize that help it is an issue with you, not anyone else. I have never given any direct advice on how to improve your connection or reduce disconnects, Iâve directed people to search for it themselves. I do my best not to make statements outside of my areas of expertise. You are welcome to continue moaning about the issue, but that wonât change anything. The rules are set. If you fail to meet those standards you have to deal with the consequence that follow.
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Having an open nat is recommended by Microsoft for xbox live. You should know that. For more info Try here. It goes over some of the problems you get when you have a moderate or strict nat.
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> > > > In the future either tag me or actually quote me if you want my attention, please. Iâve had a handful of disconnects since launch and I live in a fairly rural area. I certainly have not had a number of disconnects equivalent to 4 out of thirty matches. As I said if you believe that those were all disconnects and not quits, then I would work to resolve that problem. There are many threads that relate to improving your connection to the servers. There are many things you can do. You say you have a wired connection. You should make sure the port you are using is the best option, make sure your nat is open, make sure that you arenât experiencing issues on your connection that are transitory. As I said there are many threads on this topic with people who offer better solutions than I could in this case.
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The part you donât understand is that residents are not supposed to open the ports if it is closed (moderate or strict nat settings). Microsoft never encouraged us to open our nat!!! Even in the link you provided it only state the benefit of open nat. You need to go back and carefully read the link you sent. However âyouâ telling people to make sure nat is open in order to avoid bans is absurd especially when they are warned from their ISP not to tamper with router settings. As I stated before 343i nor Microsoft would never tell their customers to open their closed nat settings; however you have no credibility from your misguided misinformed statements about open nat settings.
Edited: A little more information to whom it may concern. in the past we were able to open NAT settings in the fort forwarding and universal plug and play UPNP section in our routers. Now ISP companies have designed routers to not include this option for many residential users; so in many cases opening ports are not optional for many users. The only thing you can do is restart your xbox console cross fingers and hope NAT opens, but that doesnât prevent you from getting banned while in a multiplayer session. Also note, that if you have open NAT at the time of turning on your console the nat settings can automatically reset back to strict at any time.