The official Halo 5 "Why was I banned?" thread

Why is leaving forge part of the ban system. Or single player campaign.

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> Why is leaving forge part of the ban system. Or single player campaign.

It’s not, or at least shouldn’t be. What makes you think leaving Forge/campaign leads to bans?

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> Why is leaving forge part of the ban system. Or single player campaign.

If you received "the banhammer strikes’ message at that time it was due to an earlier incident. It takes the system a bit to catch up.

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> Good God the cheating and trolling and absence of rank in BTB is enough to make you just not want to play or quit and take the ban with pride. Lmfao
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> 343 You have dropped the ball big time. It’s worse than the Halo 2 cheating days.
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> Congradulations

Trolling maybe, but what cheating are you claiming? I’ve yet to see any. As far as I’m aware the one hasn’t been modded yet and therefore you aren’t going to run into anyone hacking. If you want to take your ban with pride that is fine.

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> I didn’t do anything wrong. But, y’all need to fix your crappy server because while I was playing the game on multiplayer, it keeps on disconnecting me while I was playing and it said I was banned. So fix y’all’s server idiots. Here’s my email to reply me back:

You might want to delete your e-mail. It isn’t a good idea to put that out there for everyone to see. I notice you aren’t posting on the account you actually play with.

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> > Why is leaving forge part of the ban system. Or single player campaign.
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> It’s not, or at least shouldn’t be. What makes you think leaving Forge/campaign leads to bans?

Step aside and allow the person whose two week Xbox Live trial account has not expired to be more useful than you. =P

  1. The ban system is often one game behind what you see as a user. If you have received a ban recently, it was more likely caused by some of the DNF from those games of infection catching up to you. If you saw a ban when you were leaving forge, its more likely that your time just came. You could have been playing anything multiplayer and it would have triggered.

  2. Forge, to my knowledge, is not and should not be part of the ban system. The same goes for SINGLE PLAYER campaign. However, receiving a ban can prevent you from participating in COOP campaign, despite there being no matchmaking for it.

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> Your servers are still broken… They are giving us players about a 10% DNF… You need to go ahead and ban your servers.
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> Thanks from us whom are frustrated

That criticism may be a bit harsh. The servers can issues with syncing on large maps during peak hours but they are certainly functional.

I would suggest checking your internet connection. XBox support here (http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/networking/slow-performance-solution) suggest a minimum of 3 mbps connection for gaming. You can check your internet speed here (http://www.speedtest.net/).

If that doesn’t work, try turning off automatic updates on your XBox. Microsoft likes to stream things in the background so you may be downloading system updates or patching games while playing. This would definitely affect performance.

Good luck. Hopefully you can figure things out.

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> > > Why is leaving forge part of the ban system. Or single player campaign.
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> > It’s not, or at least shouldn’t be. What makes you think leaving Forge/campaign leads to bans?
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> Step aside and allow the person whose two week Xbox Live trial account has not expired to be more useful than you. =P

Heh! I’ve had a good chuckle over that one.

Ok I just got banned for 22 hours. 22 HOURS and I did nothing wrong. Gamer DVR - Xbox clips, Twitch clips and streams, Xbox screenshots, Xbox videos, Xbox DVR and more on Gamer DVR!
I recorded it so I have proof that I did nothing wrong to deserve a ban that lasts almost a whole day. I even got the Arena Daily Win pack from the match but still got banned.

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> Ok I just got banned for 22 hours. 22 HOURS and I did nothing wrong. Gamer DVR - Xbox clips, Twitch clips and streams, Xbox screenshots, Xbox videos, Xbox DVR and more on Gamer DVR!
> I recorded it so I have proof that I did nothing wrong to deserve a ban that lasts almost a whole day. I even got the Arena Daily Win pack from the match but still got banned.

So the ban system in this game for leavers is often one game behind. The video you uploaded showing you finishing a round of super fiesta on molten was one game after you left another round of super fiesta on eden. This game was your 5th DNF in your last 50 games or around 10%. When your ban is over, decreasing your DNF rate will reduce the chance of future bans.

Here is a link of a turtle eating strawberries to make you feel better.

I have gotten banned countless times. I never quit my games and always finish them out. Sometimes I experience lag and disconnect from the servers and I get banned. Sometimes 45 minutes at a time and it ruins my gaming experience. Lately I will be in a party, and right as the match is deploying, my game will disconnect and kick me from the servers and will result in a hefty ban. Never had these issues on 360… I’m just saying.

HOLA

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> > Your servers are still broken… They are giving us players about a 10% DNF… You need to go ahead and ban your servers.
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> > Thanks from us whom are frustrated
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> That criticism may be a bit harsh. The servers can issues with syncing on large maps during peak hours but they are certainly functional.
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> I would suggest checking your internet connection. XBox support here (http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/networking/slow-performance-solution) suggest a minimum of 3 mbps connection for gaming. You can check your internet speed here (http://www.speedtest.net/).
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> If that doesn’t work, try turning off automatic updates on your XBox. Microsoft likes to stream things in the background so you may be downloading system updates or patching games while playing. This would definitely affect performance.
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> Good luck. Hopefully you can figure thin

Tried all the solutions and to no avail I’m still playing on broken servers. It would be one thing if it was every game I own… But it’s only Halo 5. Which shows the problem isn’t on my end yet on the end of the server I’m connecting too

Here’s another suggestion for the game in which no one is monitoring the other unacceptable behaviors like boosting accounts, team shooting but not killing, trolling, ect ect ect.

Hiw is about ban those players instead of the ones whom get frustrated and want to quit? I understand you may have overlooked this idea… Lol It’s another example that the system is broken and trolls are always gonna be trolls. I’ve lost about 95% of my Big Tram Battle games due to trolls, boosters, KDwhores, quitters, non playing people, under skilled as bullies like to play in teams to beat up other players. So many ways this could be fixed as well… Yet your doing NOTHING!!!

And it shows…

maps Just look at my game history… It doesn’t lie
on average I have between 2-8 people quit on my team in BTB… Or should I say get dropped by YOUR servers

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> Here’s another suggestion for the game in which no one is monitoring the other unacceptable behaviors like boosting accounts, team shooting but not killing, trolling, ect ect ect.
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> Hiw is about ban those players instead of the ones whom get frustrated and want to quit? I understand you may have overlooked this idea… Lol It’s another example that the system is broken and trolls are always gonna be trolls. I’ve lost about 95% of my Big Tram Battle games due to trolls, boosters, KDwhores, quitters, non playing people, under skilled as bullies like to play in teams to beat up other players. So many ways this could be fixed as well… Yet your doing NOTHING!!!
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> And it shows…
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> maps Just look at my game history… It doesn’t lie
> on average I have between 2-8 people quit on my team in BTB… Or should I say get dropped by YOUR servers

You are attempting to deflect from the issue. First by claiming that some things go unpunished (which is partially true and largely false.) and then by claiming that people have quit on your team which is irrelevant. Someone else’s actions do not cause yours. It is still the case that you have a large amount of DNFS. You cannot claim that they were ‘dropped by the servers’ as you have no idea why they left the match. 343 have been very clear with what was considered ban worthy even before the game was released. This includes; betraying, afking, quitting, and having a poor connection.

Just out of curiosity do you do this in real life as well? When you do something wrong or when something bad happens to you try this hard to deflect blame from yourself?

Also You’re means you are. Your means owned by you.

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> You mean the part where you blame the system and compare 343i’s banhammer to oppression? Yeah, I read that.

Simply put the banhammer as of now does not function. It is to weak against those who quit a lot as it happens a lot to me to remain alone doing 1v4 games and to hard against those who have “needs”. You can’t just ban someone who quits 2 games in a row or x games over y games hoping that there will not be any quitters… in fact that is not working. I would have made something like you have 1 quit per day after that it is a 24 hours ban to extremely punish quitters…
The banhammer as of now is an half measures and as Offensive Bias once said: half measures will not suffice.
Either have it very soft or very hard but this middleground means that those who did not quit beacuse of being quitters are punished harsly and those that are the real quitters are punished too lightly. And anyway, a personal curiosity of mine: We had to quit a game but when we quit only him received the ban notification and then we went doing some coop campaign for about 2 hours but after we stopped playing coop I received the ban message that said that i was banned well for the next 7 hours… Is it possible for the hammer to have such a long delay or was there anything else wrong?

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> > Here’s another suggestion for the game in which no one is monitoring the other unacceptable behaviors like boosting accounts, team shooting but not killing, trolling, ect ect ect.
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> > Hiw is about ban those players instead of the ones whom get frustrated and want to quit? I understand you may have overlooked this idea… Lol It’s another example that the system is broken and trolls are always gonna be trolls. I’ve lost about 95% of my Big Tram Battle games due to trolls, boosters, KDwhores, quitters, non playing people, under skilled as bullies like to play in teams to beat up other players. So many ways this could be fixed as well… Yet your doing NOTHING!!!
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> > And it shows…
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> > maps Just look at my game history… It doesn’t lie
> > on average I have between 2-8 people quit on my team in BTB… Or should I say get dropped by YOUR servers
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> You are attempting to deflect from the issue. First by claiming that some things go unpunished (which is partially true and largely false.) and then by claiming that people have quit on your team which is irrelevant. Someone else’s actions do not cause yours. It is still the case that you have a large amount of DNFS. You cannot claim that they were ‘dropped by the servers’ as you have no idea why they left the match. 343 have been very clear with what was considered ban worthy even before the game was released. This includes; betraying, afking, quitting, and having a poor connection.
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> Just out of curiosity do you do this in real life as well? When you do something wrong or when something bad happens to you try this hard to deflect blame from yourself?
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> Also You’re means you are. Your means owned by you.

No where did you justify the logic of the ban system… Also thanks for the correction on You’re* lol I hope you sleep better at night for in no way helping solve the issue at hand. By the words and response you used you have shown that you favored exploits and poor behavior.

It’s ok not everyone can be a Liberal like you. :slight_smile:

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> > Here’s another suggestion for the game in which no one is monitoring the other unacceptable behaviors like boosting accounts, team shooting but not killing, trolling, ect ect ect.
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> > Hiw is about ban those players instead of the ones whom get frustrated and want to quit? I understand you may have overlooked this idea… Lol It’s another example that the system is broken and trolls are always gonna be trolls. I’ve lost about 95% of my Big Tram Battle games due to trolls, boosters, KDwhores, quitters, non playing people, under skilled as bullies like to play in teams to beat up other players. So many ways this could be fixed as well… Yet your doing NOTHING!!!
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> > And it shows…
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> > maps Just look at my game history… It doesn’t lie
> > on average I have between 2-8 people quit on my team in BTB… Or should I say get dropped by YOUR servers
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> You are attempting to deflect from the issue. First by claiming that some things go unpunished (which is partially true and largely false.) and then by claiming that people have quit on your team which is irrelevant. Someone else’s actions do not cause yours. It is still the case that you have a large amount of DNFS. You cannot claim that they were ‘dropped by the servers’ as you have no idea why they left the match. 343 have been very clear with what was considered ban worthy even before the game was released. This includes; betraying, afking, quitting, and having a poor connection.
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> Just out of curiosity do you do this in real life as well? When you do something wrong or when something bad happens to you try this hard to deflect blame from yourself?
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> Also You’re means you are. Your means owned by you.

Our actions are defined by those of others as well as if you remain the only one in your team you are being damaged your kd will lower your csr etc. in real life when someone does you some kind of damage he does get punished indeed but the damaged person receive some kind of compensation for the damage he was dealt. In halo 5 you just get to either loose kdr csr or to risk a ban yourself which does indeed for some players incite quitting in certain situations however this is a minority of course.
And the servers seriously have problems, they don’t drop you the 99% of the time but sometimes it just starts lagging and no it wasn’t on my end i was playing with my friends and it lagged in the exact same moments to them as well. While the servers issues are not major they should be dealt with since 343 policy is to consider every dnf to contribute towards your ban.

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> Here’s another suggestion for the game in which no one is monitoring the other unacceptable behaviors like boosting accounts, team shooting but not killing, trolling, ect ect ect.
>
> Hiw is about ban those players instead of the ones whom get frustrated and want to quit? I understand you may have overlooked this idea… Lol It’s another example that the system is broken and trolls are always gonna be trolls. I’ve lost about 95% of my Big Tram Battle games due to trolls, boosters, KDwhores, quitters, non playing people, under skilled as bullies like to play in teams to beat up other players. So many ways this could be fixed as well… Yet your doing NOTHING!!!
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> And it shows…
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> maps Just look at my game history… It doesn’t lie
> on average I have between 2-8 people quit on my team in BTB… Or should I say get dropped by YOUR servers

There is a reason if they don’t punish team shooting are some kinds of trolling… the reason being that the trollers and griefers would then report innocent people and cause them to be banned… So would you rather have some games with an idiot that gets you killed or risk the possibility of being banned because an idiot decides to falsely report that you do shoot your team. I do however agree that in some cases the punishing of the frustrated players is wrong since some times it is caused by flaws in the game such as matchmaking sometimes putting you with players with too different skill or like the game spawning you in front of 3 foes… But the right thing would be to address those flaws and overhaul the game current state to cause less frustration so that they can really justify their policy of considering any dnf.
In the end I think it was our fault we should have checked first what the ban system was like… If I knew the game was in this “state” i would have not bought it even though i love halo. The game as it is is unbalanced, the things that I see usually are in games alphas or betas at worst.

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> > Here’s another suggestion for the game in which no one is monitoring the other unacceptable behaviors like boosting accounts, team shooting but not killing, trolling, ect ect ect.
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> > Hiw is about ban those players instead of the ones whom get frustrated and want to quit? I understand you may have overlooked this idea… Lol It’s another example that the system is broken and trolls are always gonna be trolls. I’ve lost about 95% of my Big Tram Battle games due to trolls, boosters, KDwhores, quitters, non playing people, under skilled as bullies like to play in teams to beat up other players. So many ways this could be fixed as well… Yet your doing NOTHING!!!
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> > And it shows…
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> > maps Just look at my game history… It doesn’t lie
> > on average I have between 2-8 people quit on my team in BTB… Or should I say get dropped by YOUR servers
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> There is a reason if they don’t punish team shooting are some kinds of trolling… the reason being that the trollers and griefers would then report innocent people and cause them to be banned… So would you rather have some games with an idiot that gets you killed or risk the possibility of being banned because an idiot decides to falsely report that you do shoot your team. I do however agree that in some cases the punishing of the frustrated players is wrong since some times it is caused by flaws in the game such as matchmaking sometimes putting you with players with too different skill or like the game spawning you in front of 3 foes… But the right thing would be to address those flaws and overhaul the game current state to cause less frustration so that they can really justify their policy of considering any dnf.
> In the end I think it was our fault we should have checked first what the ban system was like… If I knew the game was in this “state” i would have not bought it even though i love halo. The game as it is is unbalanced, the things that I see usually are in games alphas or betas at worst.

You do realize that your last post makes no sense absolute and after reading I understand you don’t get why the system is bias and messed up already. It’s ok to ban quitters but not team shooters, betrayers, exploiters, boosters, unranked bullying. It’s all the same boat of banning quiters. Except the ones mentioned are getting off pretty lightly compared to the ones quitting games that are horrible.

Recheck your logic

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> > > Here’s another suggestion for the game in which no one is monitoring the other unacceptable behaviors like boosting accounts, team shooting but not killing, trolling, ect ect ect.
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> > > Hiw is about ban those players instead of the ones whom get frustrated and want to quit? I understand you may have overlooked this idea… Lol It’s another example that the system is broken and trolls are always gonna be trolls. I’ve lost about 95% of my Big Tram Battle games due to trolls, boosters, KDwhores, quitters, non playing people, under skilled as bullies like to play in teams to beat up other players. So many ways this could be fixed as well… Yet your doing NOTHING!!!
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> > > maps Just look at my game history… It doesn’t lie
> > > on average I have between 2-8 people quit on my team in BTB… Or should I say get dropped by YOUR servers
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> > There is a reason if they don’t punish team shooting are some kinds of trolling… the reason being that the trollers and griefers would then report innocent people and cause them to be banned… So would you rather have some games with an idiot that gets you killed or risk the possibility of being banned because an idiot decides to falsely report that you do shoot your team. I do however agree that in some cases the punishing of the frustrated players is wrong since some times it is caused by flaws in the game such as matchmaking sometimes putting you with players with too different skill or like the game spawning you in front of 3 foes… But the right thing would be to address those flaws and overhaul the game current state to cause less frustration so that they can really justify their policy of considering any dnf.
> > In the end I think it was our fault we should have checked first what the ban system was like… If I knew the game was in this “state” i would have not bought it even though i love halo. The game as it is is unbalanced, the things that I see usually are in games alphas or betas at worst.
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> You do realize that your last post makes no sense absolute and after reading I understand you don’t get why the system is bias and messed up already. It’s ok to ban quitters but not team shooters, betrayers, exploiters, boosters, unranked bullying. It’s all the same boat of banning quiters. Except the ones mentioned are getting off pretty lightly compared to the ones quitting games that are horrible.
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> Recheck your logic

My logic is fine. I do agree that they need punishment. The point is how do you identify this guys?
While it would be very good to have all of those guys punished the resources needed to do that would be monumental… how would 343 even make money?
Seeing if a player completes a match does not require much code as it is a binary variable (either he finished or not) while the number of variants to consider to understand if a player is trolling or not for example are nearly endless.

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> No where did you justify the logic of the ban system… Also thanks for the correction on You’re* lol I hope you sleep better at night for in no way helping solve the issue at hand. By the words and response you used you have shown that you favored exploits and poor behavior.
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> It’s ok not everyone can be a Liberal like you. :slight_smile:

Again you try to deflect with whataboutism and a poorly constructed ad hominem in place. I have in no way ‘favored exploits and poor behavior’ by pointing out that it was irrelevant to the case. When the system doesn’t work that doesn’t take away from when it does work as in your case. Try to take some responsibility for your actions. The system is designed to detect DNFS that reach certain benchmarks and deal with those who have them. You met those benchmarks and were banned.

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> > > Here’s another suggestion for the game in which no one is monitoring the other unacceptable behaviors like boosting accounts, team shooting but not killing, trolling, ect ect ect.
> > >
> > > Hiw is about ban those players instead of the ones whom get frustrated and want to quit? I understand you may have overlooked this idea… Lol It’s another example that the system is broken and trolls are always gonna be trolls. I’ve lost about 95% of my Big Tram Battle games due to trolls, boosters, KDwhores, quitters, non playing people, under skilled as bullies like to play in teams to beat up other players. So many ways this could be fixed as well… Yet your doing NOTHING!!!
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> > > And it shows…
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> > > maps Just look at my game history… It doesn’t lie
> > > on average I have between 2-8 people quit on my team in BTB… Or should I say get dropped by YOUR servers
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> > You are attempting to deflect from the issue. First by claiming that some things go unpunished (which is partially true and largely false.) and then by claiming that people have quit on your team which is irrelevant. Someone else’s actions do not cause yours. It is still the case that you have a large amount of DNFS. You cannot claim that they were ‘dropped by the servers’ as you have no idea why they left the match. 343 have been very clear with what was considered ban worthy even before the game was released. This includes; betraying, afking, quitting, and having a poor connection.
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> > Just out of curiosity do you do this in real life as well? When you do something wrong or when something bad happens to you try this hard to deflect blame from yourself?
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> > Also You’re means you are. Your means owned by you.
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> Our actions are defined by those of others as well as if you remain the only one in your team you are being damaged your kd will lower your csr etc. in real life when someone does you some kind of damage he does get punished indeed but the damaged person receive some kind of compensation for the damage he was dealt. In halo 5 you just get to either loose kdr csr or to risk a ban yourself which does indeed for some players incite quitting in certain situations however this is a minority of course.
> And the servers seriously have problems, they don’t drop you the 99% of the time but sometimes it just starts lagging and no it wasn’t on my end i was playing with my friends and it lagged in the exact same moments to them as well. While the servers issues are not major they should be dealt with since 343 policy is to consider every dnf to contribute towards your ban.

No. You and you alone are responsible for your actions. Real life crimes often go unpunished.

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> There is a reason if they don’t punish team shooting are some kinds of trolling… the reason being that the trollers and griefers would then report innocent people and cause them to be banned… So would you rather have some games with an idiot that gets you killed or risk the possibility of being banned because an idiot decides to falsely report that you do shoot your team. I do however agree that in some cases the punishing of the frustrated players is wrong since some times it is caused by flaws in the game such as matchmaking sometimes putting you with players with too different skill or like the game spawning you in front of 3 foes… But the right thing would be to address those flaws and overhaul the game current state to cause less frustration so that they can really justify their policy of considering any dnf.
> In the end I think it was our fault we should have checked first what the ban system was like… If I knew the game was in this “state” i would have not bought it even though i love halo. The game as it is is unbalanced, the things that I see usually are in games alphas or betas at worst.

My understanding is that damage to your teammates is tracked by the system and so if you repeatedly shoot your own teammates you will be more likely to be kicked and possibly banned for greifing when you do betray someone. The games is not unbalanced, but at least you realize you have the choice to either abide the rules or be banned.

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> > > Here’s another suggestion for the game in which no one is monitoring the other unacceptable behaviors like boosting accounts, team shooting but not killing, trolling, ect ect ect.
> > >
> > > Hiw is about ban those players instead of the ones whom get frustrated and want to quit? I understand you may have overlooked this idea… Lol It’s another example that the system is broken and trolls are always gonna be trolls. I’ve lost about 95% of my Big Tram Battle games due to trolls, boosters, KDwhores, quitters, non playing people, under skilled as bullies like to play in teams to beat up other players. So many ways this could be fixed as well… Yet your doing NOTHING!!!
> > >
> > > And it shows…
> > >
> > > maps Just look at my game history… It doesn’t lie
> > > on average I have between 2-8 people quit on my team in BTB… Or should I say get dropped by YOUR servers
> >
> >
> > There is a reason if they don’t punish team shooting are some kinds of trolling… the reason being that the trollers and griefers would then report innocent people and cause them to be banned… So would you rather have some games with an idiot that gets you killed or risk the possibility of being banned because an idiot decides to falsely report that you do shoot your team. I do however agree that in some cases the punishing of the frustrated players is wrong since some times it is caused by flaws in the game such as matchmaking sometimes putting you with players with too different skill or like the game spawning you in front of 3 foes… But the right thing would be to address those flaws and overhaul the game current state to cause less frustration so that they can really justify their policy of considering any dnf.
> > In the end I think it was our fault we should have checked first what the ban system was like… If I knew the game was in this “state” i would have not bought it even though i love halo. The game as it is is unbalanced, the things that I see usually are in games alphas or betas at worst.
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> You do realize that your last post makes no sense absolute and after reading I understand you don’t get why the system is bias and messed up already. It’s ok to ban quitters but not team shooters, betrayers, exploiters, boosters, unranked bullying. It’s all the same boat of banning quiters. Except the ones mentioned are getting off pretty lightly compared to the ones quitting games that are horrible.
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> Recheck your logic

Griefers are banned. Those who are caught using exploits may be banned. Please check your facts before you attempt to deflect from your own offences.