The New Threat

Who do you think the Cheif will be blasting away this time? If I were to take a wild guess, I might be inclined to say he could be fighting Spartan 4’s. It would certaintly put 343’s “multiplayer fictional integration” into an interesting perspective.

I like that idea, it would be a real twist considering all the speculation on Forerunners/Precursors. Though we can’t forget about “the ancient evil”, which leads me to believe it’s one of the afore mentioned enemies.

I can’t deny, Spartans fighting Spartans would seem like a possibility. but I prefer to think of a multi-team attempt at enemies: an ancient evil, forerunners (as last I checked, they really didn’t get along too well), factions of the covenant loyal to the prophets, and potentially Spartan III’s, IV’s, and ODST’s.

Important story information to know for Halo 4. Spartan-IVs don’t make much sense as an enemy. Nothing is to be gained by killing Chief. Now the Precursors, that is a valid threat as my linked thread explains.

I think 343 have ruined the canon enough without introducing a civil war within the UNSC.

> Important story information to know for Halo 4. Spartan-IVs don’t make much sense as an enemy. Nothing is to be gained by killing Chief. Now the Precursors, that is a valid threat as my linked thread explains.

Well, there is a bit of rivalry between Halsey’s SII’s and ONI’s SIII/IV’s. Maybe more so for Halsey, who (in her mind) was betrayed.

> > Important story information to know for Halo 4. Spartan-IVs don’t make much sense as an enemy. Nothing is to be gained by killing Chief. Now the Precursors, that is a valid threat as my linked thread explains.
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> Well, there is a bit of rivalry between Halsey’s SII’s and ONI’s SIII/IV’s.

No there isn’t. At all.

its precursors for def. 1 they are alot more technologically advance that the forerunner so they probably survived even though the prisoner was the last known. 2 the image at the end of the concept art trailer looks like the description of the precursors unless its forerunner machines that look similar.

Huh, maybe I read Grasslands wrong. Ah well, at any rate there’s no denying that Halsey, the “mother” of Spartan II’s, is bitter of the whole fiasco. I wonder how John would do if he reunited with Halsey before knowing about the other Spartan programs.

> Huh, maybe I read Grasslands wrong. Ah well, at any rate there’s no denying that Halsey, the “mother” of Spartan II’s, is bitter of the whole fiasco. I wonder how John would feel if he reunited with Halsey before knowing about the other Spartan programs.

Not a huge surprise. However, the Spartan-IIs don’t serve Halsey. They may respect her, but she has no real influence over them.

True, they’re bred to ensure humanity’s survival after all.

Most likely Precursors. Though Frankie did say we will fight Covenant in one way or another, but they’ll be the least of Chief’s worries.
You should definitely check out the very helpful aforementioned thread by Cobra.

I am honestly hoping we have to fight a Forerunner splinter faction. Like maybe they protected themselves from the Halo activation and are now taking their hatred for the main Forerunner branch out on Humanity :smiley:

> I am honestly hoping we have to fight a Forerunner splinter faction. Like maybe they protected themselves from the Halo activation and are now taking their hatred for the main Forerunner branch out on Humanity :smiley:

That makes no sense. If their hatred was that great, they had over 100,000 years to wipe out humanity while we were in a primitive state. Even with the UNSC, Forerunner technology beats humans any day of the week.

Spartan IVs wouldn’t make sense. This new enemy is something unlike John was ever faced before. John indeed has faced humanity before, the Insurrectionists.

> > > Important story information to know for Halo 4. Spartan-IVs don’t make much sense as an enemy. Nothing is to be gained by killing Chief. Now the Precursors, that is a valid threat as my linked thread explains.
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> > Well, there is a bit of rivalry between Halsey’s SII’s and ONI’s SIII/IV’s.
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> No there isn’t. At all.

you saying Halsey getting punched by a Spartan III is not showing S-II’s having a little bit of a rivalry? Given the nature of the dialogue in the books, especially from Primordium, it’s more then a bit of potential that someone will set lose a firecracker for that to happen… btw, my bet is on the S-II’s dropping S-III’s…

> Spartan IVs wouldn’t make sense. This new enemy is something unlike John was ever faced before. John indeed has faced humanity before, the Insurrectionists.

I don’t think that Chief ever fought the Insurrectionists. Spartan II’s were made to, but the Covenant came along before training was complete, and the Insurrectionists were the least of their worries.

> you saying Halsey getting punched by a Spartan III is not showing S-II’s having a little bit of a rivalry? Given the nature of the dialogue in the books, especially from Primordium, it’s more then a bit of potential that someone will set lose a firecracker for that to happen… btw, my bet is on the S-II’s dropping S-III’s…

Ah, that’s the part of the book I was thinking about! Thanks for the confirmation.

> you saying Halsey getting punched by a Spartan III is not showing S-II’s having a little bit of a rivalry?

No. None of the Spartan-IIs did anything after the fact. They might be sore at Lucy, but they aren’t immature enough to hate all of the S-IIIs.

> Given the nature of the dialogue in the books, especially from Primordium, <mark>it’s more then a bit of potential that someone will set lose a firecracker for that to happen</mark>… btw, my bet is on the S-II’s dropping S-III’s…

Such as…? Got any supporting evidence?

I think will start out by fighting Forerunner sentinels and any builders that work under the Master Builder, or at one point did. The Didact will most likely be an enemy, but things will change like it did in Halo 2 and throughout the trilogy both the Chief and Didact realize they have bigger problems such as the Flood, Precursors. This would have the Didact assume the role of the arbiter in the first trilogy, (first enemy, then ally). Just my general idea, but I have not thought too much about the details of events.