The negativity in Gamespot and IGN...

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Well we know the reason they are smack talking Halo. Its due to biast fools sucking that destiny c©ck, I mean seriously gamespot has two addicted people, who can’t even give an honest review of destiny because they are fanboys. The same goes for ign. Im afraid their opinions aren’t worth -Yoink-, so let them grind on destiny forever getting nowhere…
In the mean time we shall be enjoying Halo 5, which also provides free dlc. Goodluck getting anything from Destiny and Bungievision :slight_smile:

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> > I have moved on to independent reviewers like Angry Joe.
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> As much as I like Angry Joe, there are quite a few of his reviews that cannot be taken seriously (at least from my PoV) because of some strange criteria he imposes that have nothing to do with the game itself. I still remember ODST getting a 6/10, for the sole reason of the game’s launch price, even though he admitted that the game itself is exceptional. Now while the price of the game has significantly dropped since, was the review score corrected to reflect it? Nope.

I like Angry Joe aswell. At least he hit the nail on the head with Destiny… No more studio invites from Bungie. Lol :slight_smile:

We’re complaining about someone complaining about a series…which we do all the time >_>

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> > > > Negativity is not a feature of gaming, or of a console war, or of classic Halo vs. modern Halo, or of Halo vs. CoD. It’s a feature of humanity. And the internet is the most powerful negativity amplifier ever created. If you hold an ant under the comments section of youtube on a sunny day it will fry. Ignore it all, at all times, and forever. Unless it’s constructive negativity. Which also abounds, but which is not entirely useless. Which one is which only you can decide. But since you hang on youtube anyway you should check out Favyn and BDobbinsFTW. People love to hate on them, but they’re both what I would call “constructively critical.”
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> > > Seriously though, they make controversial videos, have clear cut views, and seem very passionate. Unfortunately, both of them like to speak that their version of what they speak about is true. Too bad that sometimes they offer conflicting videos, and have since found major success with clickbait titles. Favyn, for example, started out as a decent anti-new Halo with fair points and only slight misuse of statistics and facts, and very few instances of false or misleading facts used. Then he realized how many views he got, and started putting videos out like “Why Warzone will be dead in a month” which proceeded to get him wrecked in the comments, mostly by his own subscribers. Look, anti-new Halo has a strong voice. Its just that 9/10 times, people will love to say things like “Halo 3 had good player retention, Halo 4 had bad player retention. Halo 3 didnt have sprint, Halo 4 had sprint, ergo, sprint in Halo is why everyone doesnt play anymore”. While that may be true for quite a few fans, it is in no way an accurate blanket statement for the entire Halo population.
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> > Yes I agree on the Favyn part.
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> > His initial videos were great thus I subscribed to him.
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> > But overtime I saw how he came across more of an anti-new Halo trilogy everything. He just like anti-Slide this, anti-Clamber that, anti-Sprint here.
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> > What I find fascinating is that Halo 5 has a chance, after 5 years and 3 major Halo titles, to ensure Sprint is properly integrated into Halo. People like him do not see that, but somehow neglect the fact that Halo 5 is probably going to be the first Halo game with proper non-BR starts, with the current AR & Pistol. First Halo game after 6 major Halo titles & 14 years.
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> > BDobbins still isn’t too bad, for now. Out of all the original trilogy Halo games, I find myself liking Halo 3 the best. But after getting used to Sprint in modern shooters and so far, Halo: CE now seems to be the best for me despite its lack of Sprint. I just find games without agility abilities to be rigid, and as a former anti-Sprint advocate, I now see the wisdom in ensuring Sprint is properly integrated into the Halo franchise.
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> I feel like BDobbins has gone down the same road too. Similar story, he started out good and with a good intention. His early Destiny videos were great, but then I stopped watching him out of laziness more than anything, and a few months later I learn he claimed 343i would make Halo 5 bad on purpose if their pre-orders kept up, literally suggesting that pre-orders incentivze developers to make games bad deliberately, which is utter bollocks if you know anything about game design.
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You really seem to be really misinformed regarding the intentions of batman. The claim about halo 5 being bad if preorders climbed now seems to be silly, but keep in mind that destiny did this on its launch.
Seeing how you don’t watch his videos, it is kind of expected for people to make the claim of “If you don’t like it, don’t play it” mentality. The thing is, batman wants to come out as credible so he plays only the bare minimum of the content in destiny which in this case is dlc. Not to mention that any of the gameplay he posts while talking about destiny is from a friend of his, Dr. Leatherwood. If you pay attention to the killcams, you’ll notice that most if not all of the gameplay comes from someone other than batman. The reasons why he persists on playing these games is that he wants these games like CoD and destiny to be successful legitimately through its content and not the marketing campaign. He acts as a gaming journalist to spread his opinion regarding the new dlc or game that releases because he knows that many people including my friends will have already preordered the game without any real reviews.
The reason why he bashes The Taken King is that while it addresses many issues present within launch of destiny, it basically shows that bungie and activision admit that destiny was a beta, no more than that. That expansion should’ve been what the game launched with but it was a YEAR late. Even so, people still gobbled up the dlc and batman predicted that if you hold off buying ny future dlc, activision will bundle the game and its dlc within a reduced price. That legendary edition of destiny would have saved you $60 compared to how much year one players spent.

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> Let’s be real here. People loved Halo (past tense), meaning they love the older games (CE-3). Once ODST came out, people were mad that there was no Master Chief. REACH, people were mad with all the armor abilities. H4, the same people were mad because it was “too similar to Call of Duty”. These are the people who cannot except CHANGE! Sure I’ve loved the older games, but I also really enjoyed every game that the others complained about.
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> There’s always going to be people complaining. I say let them! As someone put it above, more Halo for us. As long as you enjoy the games and have friends you play with that do the same…that’s all that matters. Plain and simple…

You need to distinguish the difference between good and bad change. The people who have complained of the things you just mentioned obviously know what halo should and shouldn’t be.

i love how in the comments of IGN, to top their hate comment off, they put: “And yes I have played the original trilogy, i am a true halo fan since 01”, but when you click their youtube you see a squeaker defending the atrocious beta that was BLOPS 3.

Seeeems Legit

It’s impossible to please everyone. Praise and criticism will come with any AAA game or any game for that matter.
What I miss about the old days is the freedom that studios had for creativity and risk. Many AAA games are starting to look all the same. Nowadays, the gaming industry is much bigger, big publishers dictate a lot of the content which is usually geared to please the majority or to try to please everyone. Pressure to generate large revenues seems paramount, artistic integrity is lost with so much emphasis on frame rate and online gaming. Networking alone can take a huge chunk in your budget.
Excited to watch indies starting to produce AAA games. The technology is now more affordable even for the little guys which may allow creativity to be a part of the equation again.
Hoping 343 delivers a solid game, can’t wait to try it.

This what I imagine what everyday YouTubers try to make halo classic.

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> This what I imagine what everyday YouTubers try to make halo classic.

Lmao so true.

All these fanboys on here getting so upset over IGN and YouTube comments… Like really. They gave halo 4 a 9.7/10 and expect to be taken seriously. Halo 5 is going to suck just like 4, and that’s the harsh truth. 343 doesn’t know how to make a halo game.

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> All these fanboys on here getting so upset over IGN and YouTube comments… Like really. They gave halo 4 a 9.7/10 and expect to be taken seriously. Halo 5 is going to suck just like 4, and that’s the harsh truth. 343 doesn’t know how to make a halo game.

Ha. >.< If that isnt the most sincere subjective wrong line of thinking I don’t know what is.

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> All these fanboys on here getting so upset over IGN and YouTube comments… Like really. They gave halo 4 a 9.7/10 and expect to be taken seriously. Halo 5 is going to suck just like 4, and that’s the harsh truth. 343 doesn’t know how to make a halo game.

Now I’ll say that Halo 4 probably shouldn’t have gotten any more than an 8.0 - 8.5 at most. But Halo 5 was born of those mistakes. If you think it’s going to do as poorly as Halo 4 did, then Perhaps you haven’t been keeping up. If you had been, you’d know that Halo 5 is turning out to be fairly awesome. In more ways than one.

No, to be honest I could say the same about some of the users on IGN and Gamespot white knighting Halo 4. Halo 4 was the worst multiplayer based Halo there was. I didn’t like Halo Reach’s changes at first but eventually it grew on me. When Halo 4 came out I honestly preferred Halo Reach a lot more than Halo 4. For the loads of different reasons.
Some of them being that Halo Reach kept the traditional style of play even with the newly created armor abilities. Just the difference between the older games and Reach was the fact that players could decide the starting spawned match types. A being team slayers with assault rifle and handgun while b was handgun and DMR. If you didn’t know depending what was chosen would be a difference in playstyles and often times you could tell the bad players from the good players from distinguishing from the two.

The Arena game mode is also something else that was new. This was a mode dedicated to Halo players that wanted a competitive game mode that was strictly related to high levels of team slayer styled play. With often times the DMR and assault rifle being the starting loadouts with the addition of there being no scanner. What was great about this is the fact that it was based upon the player’s K/D and consistent winnings of games. Doing this would lead to getting into higher leagues in play depending upon your own skill level.
Frankly, for some reason this was a mode that wasn’t well liked and often times didn’t see much players even when Arena officially started. I think it’s because people still have this idea that Halo is still one of those games to just play more fun. Unfortunately, that ended with Halo 2. Halo generally ever since Xbox Live started has been only getting bigger in the competitive gaming scene. It’s about time to acknowledge that and embrace that fact and accept That was one of the reason’s why on the Xbox 360 Halo 4’s multiplayer population died fast and not far off from release.
I can say that I preferred the changes from Halo Reach a lot more than the changes from Halo 4.
Halo 5 I am excited for. But only because I played the beta and saw first hand that Halo 5 is getting rid many of the bad decisions that plagued Halo 4.

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> > All these fanboys on here getting so upset over IGN and YouTube comments… Like really. They gave halo 4 a 9.7/10 and expect to be taken seriously. Halo 5 is going to suck just like 4, and that’s the harsh truth. 343 doesn’t know how to make a halo game.
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Care to explain? 343 has been given so many chances to keep the player base interested in halo and they tossed halo 4 out with the dumbest mechanics and look where that got them… Barely anyone plays that piece of junk anymore. What makes you think they won’t ruin halo 5? Better yet, what does halo 5 have that halo 3 and reach don’t have? Split screen? Online Co-op?.. they can’t even give enough -Yoink- to add in those little features because they are dead set on their own vision of what they think halo should be like instead of going back to the original mechanics. Heck, they don’t even release BTB on the games launch, why not add the playlist that, well I don’t know, the majority of halo players actually play on every halo game… Halo 3 and Reach both had a huge population of players on BTB. For a company that loves halo, I’m not seeing what’s so special about this one.

If anything, it looks more like halo 4 characters with noob friendly mechanics. Theres a reason why people abandoned halo 4 and it’s not because " it was 343’s first halo" bull crap excuse. It’s obvious people don’t like halo 5 and I’m willing to bet it’s going to turn out to be just like H4. Maybe the microtransactions will be the deal breaker for some.

There will always be negativity no matter what.

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> > All these fanboys on here getting so upset over IGN and YouTube comments… Like really. They gave halo 4 a 9.7/10 and expect to be taken seriously. Halo 5 is going to suck just like 4, and that’s the harsh truth. 343 doesn’t know how to make a halo game.
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How do you know it’s awesome? People only played the beta and to put this mildly, halo 5 has nothing going for it that makes it stand out compared to other shooters. no split screen/no online co-op doesn’t seem very modernized for a 2015 game when I can do all those things on halo 3-Reach, let alone halo was known for being a great split screen game too. Also, microtransactions don’t seem like something that should be in a halo game either, it’s like they know the game has a high percent chance of failing so they throw in another way to try and collect money before the ship sinks.

No BTB at launch? Wasn’t halo 1 famous for blood gulch BTB? It’s like these guys don’t want to please halo fans. War zone instead of firefight? So let’s just scrap the gamemodes ODST and halo reach had to make our own game type that’s essentially like BTB and call it war zone. The changes in armor customization is just boring and the looks of the armor are just bland. What ever happened to the great customization reach had? Why not add that in there? Because 343 is dead set on their vision on what they think halo should be rather than staying true to what halo has always been about, and most of it isn’t in halo 5. Way to stay true to halo’s roots!

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> There will always be negativity no matter what.

Ok? What are you trying to get across? There will always be positivity no matter what. The people “complaining” I’m sure somewhat care about where halo is heading and maybe looking at it as negativity maybe it’s just called giving feedback or criticsm…

Don’t know if this was posted yet, but the comments matter not: Halo 5 Arena Multiplayer Commentary: Capture the Flag on Fathom - IGN[/

What matters is what the PLAYERS are saying.

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> So I’m looking at these environments, skybox and just these really cool depictions of ancient Sangheili structures. When people go on about bland or whatever, I’m really questioning if we’re seeing the same things here. Even using ‘bland’ as hyperbole doesn’t even work.

Such comments mystify me as well.

It is almost as if they are playing Halo and complaining about the colour and design of their TV casing.

Dam this must be a real issue :stuck_out_tongue: