Fast tech and Vehicle spam is slowly dying as people adapt new strategies and continue to try out new things even without a patch coming out.
Fact is we might be heading in the direction of nerfing Vehicles and tech 2 to hard.
Still Pavium, Voridus and Forge need nerfs.
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> Fast tech and Vehicle spam is slowly dying as people adapt new strategies and continue to try out new things even without a patch coming out.
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> Fact is we might be heading in the direction of nerfing Vehicles and tech 2 to hard.
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> Still Pavium, Voridus and Forge need nerfs.
Usually how it goes. But its still the effective meta thats just as effective even if its abit slower or delayed, or dying.
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> Fast tech and Vehicle spam is slowly dying as people adapt new strategies and continue to try out new things even without a patch coming out.
>
> Fact is we might be heading in the direction of nerfing Vehicles and tech 2 to hard.
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> Still Pavium, Voridus and Forge need nerfs.
Your a joke Pavium and voridus have already been nerfed they or balanced and forge’s early game is the same thing as everyone else’s map control is what you need to get ASAP and try to cancel expansions also and counter accordingly the reason some leader powers wreck you is because some players spent their leader powers on more offensive moves like rain of fire which is pavium’only offensive leader power and don’t forget people that play as vordius always get infusion tech as it increases infusions dps but I would like to hear why you think I am wrong go ahead I dare you
I really don’t see how it’s changing. Please elaborate.
You are right to say we shouldn’t nerf the vehicles to much. It will make them useless. But the meta is alive and well and takes a whole lot of skill to stop it with another strategy. With a slight time increase to upgrading the base and such, this will help.
I watched a bit of yodas stream (1v1 series between I dont remember) last night. The matches were almost boring as the few I saw were straight to hogs and then it was a case who could kill more hogs than the other.
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> > Fast tech and Vehicle spam is slowly dying as people adapt new strategies and continue to try out new things even without a patch coming out.
> >
> > Fact is we might be heading in the direction of nerfing Vehicles and tech 2 to hard.
> >
> > Still Pavium, Voridus and Forge need nerfs.
>
> Your a joke Pavium and voridus have already been nerfed they or balanced and forge’s early game is the same thing as everyone else’s map control is what you need to get ASAP and try to cancel expansions also and counter accordingly the reason some leader powers wreck you is because some players spent their leader powers on more offensive moves like rain of fire which is pavium’only offensive leader power and don’t forget people that play as vordius always get infusion tech as it increases infusions dps but I would like to hear why you think I am wrong go ahead I dare you
Sorry but this is actually the most retarded post I have ever read.
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> > 2533274845021192;1:
> > Fast tech and Vehicle spam is slowly dying as people adapt new strategies and continue to try out new things even without a patch coming out.
> >
> > Fact is we might be heading in the direction of nerfing Vehicles and tech 2 to hard.
> >
> > Still Pavium, Voridus and Forge need nerfs.
>
> Your a joke Pavium and voridus have already been nerfed they or balanced and forge’s early game is the same thing as everyone else’s map control is what you need to get ASAP and try to cancel expansions also and counter accordingly the reason some leader powers wreck you is because some players spent their leader powers on more offensive moves like rain of fire which is pavium’only offensive leader power and don’t forget people that play as vordius always get infusion tech as it increases infusions dps but I would like to hear why you think I am wrong go ahead I dare you
I severely hope that you aren’t being serious. But just in case you are, I’ll correct you.
-Node control is not going to allow you to get T2 as fast as someone who goes Gen 1st.
-Keeping down expansions will be impossible when Hogs can be triple pumped off of a single base and a few minis.
-If Rain of Fire is Pavium’s only offensive leader, then I guess Ultra Mines and Lich Support have just been a figment of my imagination this whole time.
-You never refuted any of the many points that show Pavium, Voridus, and Forge to be OP/broken. You just assumed that ASConviction had no idea what he was talking about and responded in a nearly incomprehensible jumble of words.
I haven’t played 1s much lately because of the hog meta. But, if anything is changing, I’d say it’s more out of players getting bored with the standard. It’s not so much fun to win with the one meta strat constantly, and no one is impressed or interested in anyone getting W’s by playing only Forge.
But you can get some bragging rights by winning outside of the hog spam.
I don’t think that makes it any less of a sure thing, however.
As as someone else said, I don’t think vehicles should be nerfed so much as AV should be picked back up and T2 should take a little longer. But there’s already a massive thread about that going on so…
The Meta…it’s…ITS ALIVE. ITS ALIVE ITS ALIVE ITS ALIVE. (Frankenstein’s Monster Reference)
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> > 2533274845021192;1:
> > Fast tech and Vehicle spam is slowly dying as people adapt new strategies and continue to try out new things even without a patch coming out.
> >
> > Fact is we might be heading in the direction of nerfing Vehicles and tech 2 to hard.
> >
> > Still Pavium, Voridus and Forge need nerfs.
>
> Your a joke Pavium and voridus have already been nerfed they or balanced and forge’s early game is the same thing as everyone else’s map control is what you need to get ASAP and try to cancel expansions also and counter accordingly the reason some leader powers wreck you is because some players spent their leader powers on more offensive moves like rain of fire which is pavium’only offensive leader power and don’t forget people that play as vordius always get infusion tech as it increases infusions dps but I would like to hear why you think I am wrong go ahead I dare you
“Your a joke”, is highly unreasonable to call ASConviction. Voridus and Pavium would be Meta if they were UNSC. They are the best Banished besides arbiter, just because of Phantoms. Voridus infusion still OP and Cata can still wipe out armies. Voridus’s first leader point also gives supplies to Vordi as well so he “would” benefits for playing agressive if he had Hogs. Paviums economy is not as strong as Forge’s eco but he has impressive leader abilities along with an above average eco.
Instead of nerf everything why not make the UP units/ leaders more powerful.
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> > > 2533274845021192;1:
> > > Fast tech and Vehicle spam is slowly dying as people adapt new strategies and continue to try out new things even without a patch coming out.
> > >
> > > Fact is we might be heading in the direction of nerfing Vehicles and tech 2 to hard.
> > >
> > > Still Pavium, Voridus and Forge need nerfs.
> >
> > Your a joke Pavium and voridus have already been nerfed they or balanced and forge’s early game is the same thing as everyone else’s map control is what you need to get ASAP and try to cancel expansions also and counter accordingly the reason some leader powers wreck you is because some players spent their leader powers on more offensive moves like rain of fire which is pavium’only offensive leader power and don’t forget people that play as vordius always get infusion tech as it increases infusions dps but I would like to hear why you think I am wrong go ahead I dare you
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> I severely hope that you aren’t being serious. But just in case you are, I’ll correct you.
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> -Node control is not going to allow you to get T2 as fast as someone who goes Gen 1st.
>
> -Keeping down expansions will be impossible when Hogs can be triple pumped off of a single base and a few minis.
>
> -If Rain of Fire is Pavium’s only offensive leader, then I guess Ultra Mines and Lich Support have just been a figment of my imagination this whole time.
>
> -You never refuted any of the many points that show Pavium, Voridus, and Forge to be OP/broken. You just assumed that ASConviction had no idea what he was talking about and responded in a nearly incomprehensible jumble of words.
So why not go generator first, too? Why not attack your opponent’s generator? Why not attack their mini bases? Why not harass them in the early stages of the match?
I play solo 3v3 more often than any other game mode. I’ve taken quite a few losses. Other than newbs who don’t build units or do anything constructive, more often than not, the losses occurred from waiting for the opponent to attack.
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> > > > 2533274845021192;1:
> > > > Fast tech and Vehicle spam is slowly dying as people adapt new strategies and continue to try out new things even without a patch coming out.
> > > >
> > > > Fact is we might be heading in the direction of nerfing Vehicles and tech 2 to hard.
> > > >
> > > > Still Pavium, Voridus and Forge need nerfs.
> > >
> > > Your a joke Pavium and voridus have already been nerfed they or balanced and forge’s early game is the same thing as everyone else’s map control is what you need to get ASAP and try to cancel expansions also and counter accordingly the reason some leader powers wreck you is because some players spent their leader powers on more offensive moves like rain of fire which is pavium’only offensive leader power and don’t forget people that play as vordius always get infusion tech as it increases infusions dps but I would like to hear why you think I am wrong go ahead I dare you
> >
> > I severely hope that you aren’t being serious. But just in case you are, I’ll correct you.
> >
> > -Node control is not going to allow you to get T2 as fast as someone who goes Gen 1st.
> >
> > -Keeping down expansions will be impossible when Hogs can be triple pumped off of a single base and a few minis.
> >
> > -If Rain of Fire is Pavium’s only offensive leader, then I guess Ultra Mines and Lich Support have just been a figment of my imagination this whole time.
> >
> > -You never refuted any of the many points that show Pavium, Voridus, and Forge to be OP/broken. You just assumed that ASConviction had no idea what he was talking about and responded in a nearly incomprehensible jumble of words.
>
> So why not go generator first, too? Why not attack your opponent’s generator? Why not attack their mini bases? Why not harass them in the early stages of the match?
>
> I play solo 3v3 more often than any other game mode. I’ve taken quite a few losses. Other than newbs who don’t build units or do anything constructive, more often than not, the losses occurred from waiting for the opponent to attack.
People do go generator first too, or gen 3 and 5 based on preference. That gets stale quick though. Between the effectivness of AI turrets, how quick T2 can be achieved, and the effectiveness of hogs there’s not a better strategy out there. T1 has become almost irrelevant because you can’t punish a quick tech enough without a blind barracks 3, 4 HB rush.