The Mangler Poll

  • Nerf
  • Buff
  • No change

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The polls can now close. 100% voted for no change.

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Think you should expand to separate the one shot melee and the actual kill time of using bullets only.

I know a lot of people are split on the two

I think it’s kinda stupid we’re nerfing a weapon that isnt OP. It’s good but miss 1 shot you lose, not to mention is TTK is just over base spawn weapons like the sidekick

Why nerf anything, HOW ABOUT BUFF THE RAVENGER.

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id actually like it buffed and turned into a power weapon by im also the type of person that wants the plasma pistol to be like it was in halo reach

i hate most of the non human weapons they are annoying to play with and play against the cinder shot is a perfect example of that

with something like the needler i wish it shot slightly faster and the explosion would be stronger to help with multiple targets kinda like fire fly in destiny 2

Wait. It’s actually gonna be nerfed?

The ā€˜pros’ are complaining it’s OP and asking for it to be changed.

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I see, but it’s not been stated from 343 that it’s being considered?
Well, the kill time is slower than both the AR and the Sidekick, and just slightly faster than the BR (and much harder to control the accuracy), plus it’s a pickup weapon, so I don’t quite get what they mean.
Sure it’s 1 shot + melee to kill. But so it the Bulldog, Ravager, Heatwave and probably more weapons.

Either way, if it’s only pros that have an issue with it, it should be removed from pro tournaments.
If it’s a larger amount of competitive players who think it’s OP too, then it could be debated how suitable it is for the competitive playlist I guess.
But nerfing it further will just make it useless and more or less ā€œremoveā€ a part of the sandbox, since most casuals would stop using it entirely in mp.

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I’m not sure if there has been a response from 343 as of yet, I kinda hope not given the lack of response on far bigger issues.

If ā€˜influencers’ make enough noise though I’m sure 343 will need to provide something of a response regardless of its a yes, no, we’ll consider it.

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I don’t think the pros are really asking for it to be ā€œnerfedā€, per say.

It is currently a competitively unbalanced weapon for 2 main reasons, which are where I’m seeing the most complaints from pros:

  1. Unbalanced spawn points. Specifically Live Fire, where one team has the Mangler at spawn and the other team doesn’t. This can be fixed by simply removing the Plasma Pistol from Live Fire and putting a Mangler on that rack instead.

  2. 30 second repawn timer. A new Mangler respawns in the weapon rack every 30 seconds, regardless if there is already another in play. It should simply be like the heatwave and other weapons that are shaded red in the weapon rack until the current one is no longer in play.

If they change those 2 things, I think most pros would be happy.

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Mangler is fine how it is. Its not a starting weapon. So i expect that it is more powerful than the starting weapon. Otherwise, why should i pick it up?

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  • Buff the Ravager. .
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This is basically it. There isn’t anything specifically wrong with the mangler, its just these two points. The two sides of the player base have different ideas of ā€œNerfā€.

I’m pleasantly surprised by these results.

I voted nerf, but only because it needs a longer spawn timer.

The Mangler is fine in terms of gameplay, but it should be less prevalent.

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