The leader powers are ruining this game for me

The leader powers in this game are absolutely ridiculous. I am so sick of losing my entire army of 80-100 units at the click of a button. It makes it nearly impossible to make a comeback because the moment I show my face it gets wiped off the face of the Earth. The leader powers are cheap (resource-wise), have relatively short cooldowns, and are mostly unavoidable. How am I supposed to re-take ground and compete when I have to blow all of my resources on units just to lose them in a span of 5 seconds?

Nerf superweapons plz

EDIT:
I’m no game developer, but there are a few ways you can remedy this.

  1. Decrease the speed of cleansing so units can actually outrun it
  2. Increase the cool down for super weapons
  3. Increase the delay between activation and effect
  4. Decrease the lasting effects of certain powers (i.e. the stupid sentinel swarm)

etc.

Leader powers in their current state need some serious adjustment.

I can agree - some commander powers are a tad strong.
I like the HW1 powers very limited but useful :slight_smile:

I like the variety and upgrade system, but I agree they refresh too fast and some are too powerful.

yes,some power are too powerful

+1

My game was still installing, so I decided to play some Skirmish while waited. When I went up to the enemy base with 7 scorpions and 6 wolverines, and all of them got destroyed by a bunch of archer missiles.

wtf?

343 is lucky that this game came out now of else of would canceled my preordered of this -Yoink-.

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> My game was still installing, so I decided to play some Skirmish while waited. When I went up to the enemy base with 7 scorpions and 6 wolverines, and all of them got destroyed by a bunch of archer missiles.
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> wtf?
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> 343 is lucky that this game came out now of else of would canceled my preordered of this -Yoink-.

When you compare archer missiles with the carpet bomb from Halo Wars it really shows just how much more powerful the leader abilities are in this game. I’m definitely not a big fan of this change.

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> My game was still installing, so I decided to play some Skirmish while waited. When I went up to the enemy base with 7 scorpions and 6 wolverines, and all of them got destroyed by a bunch of archer missiles.
>
> wtf?
>
> 343 is lucky that this game came out now of else of would canceled my preordered of this -Yoink-.

lol, are you mad because you lost ONE game?

You can keybinds units now, why do you have all 80 of your units clumped together. That’s just asking for trouble.

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> My game was still installing, so I decided to play some Skirmish while waited. When I went up to the enemy base with 7 scorpions and 6 wolverines, and all of them got destroyed by a bunch of archer missiles.
>
> wtf?
>
> 343 is lucky that this game came out now of else of would canceled my preordered of this -Yoink-.

lol, are you mad because you lost ONE game?

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> You can keybinds units now, why do you have all 80 of your units clumped together. That’s just asking for trouble.

When your opponent has all 80 of their units on your doorstep, what else can ya do?

I agree the coodowns are too fast and and some are too powerful

No whats ruining the -Yoinking!- game is the condor. Its obnoxious as -Yoink- that someone can get decimated then get that and faceroll.

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> No whats ruining the -Yoinking!- game is the condor. Its obnoxious as -Yoink- that someone can get decimated then get that and faceroll.

i have played about 10 standard games and all i see is condors or mass Banshee/Hornet rush.

the Hornet rush is completely rediculous because anti-air takes power but Hornets do not.

they need to make Uber units in a tech 4 because every match you see ubers and in the first game seeing a scarab was rare and risky to use.

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> > 2533274809411028;13:
> > No whats ruining the -Yoinking!- game is the condor. Its obnoxious as -Yoink- that someone can get decimated then get that and faceroll.
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> i have played about 10 standard games and all i see is condors or mass Banshee/Hornet rush.
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> the Hornet rush is completely rediculous because anti-air takes power but Hornets do not.
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> they need to make Uber units in a tech 4 because every match you see ubers and in the first game seeing a scarab was rare and risky to use.

Not to mention not having a power made to combat air like cryo-bomb just causes air to steam roll and as soon as they see ground troops they use there power to wipe them out.

Thats what Isabel should have instead of that weak -Yoink- hack skill that only lasts a few seconds. (the cryo-bomb)

Yeah just experienced this for myself, build up an army went to take a base and bam out of nowhere all gone, I suppose you can divide your Army etc but still its a cheap tactic. I going to try the next go with them turned off!

Leader powers are just fine,theirs an counter for everything. Scout early and build your tiers for your specific leader is unlock. Upgrade, upgrade, and upgrade. Play with a team you can talk to, and work with.

I’ve Noticed, that Hornets are way too effective against everything so spamming them is such a no brainer they probably should get nerfed.

And the Condor has way too many advantages over the scarab,
1: It doesn’t need to face the unit to shoot it,
2: It flies so its immune to hunters/cyclops,
3: the condor is extremely tanky and is a pain to take down,
4: finally the condor can kite scarabs to oblivion due to its speed and range.

I feel like the scarab needs a buffs to put it on par with the condor and to make it up for having all these weaknesses.

like its lack of range on its main gun, health, armor and damage it does.

and some leader powers are straight up absurd, i feel like mainly cool-downs should be tweaked cause having super weapons every minute is just annoying maybe try making abilities like Atriox’s Eradication, and Cutters close air support should be exceptionally longer cause they are way too game changing for the current cool-downs they have.

Rushing is -Yoinking!- this game, ive not seen a game go past 10-15mins -.- If you dont rush you will be rushed