The “Lack of Content” Talking Point is Hypocritical

the vanguard one, the game is unplayable now

Every match I drop in, and the frames drop to about 5 fps for no discernible reason when any enemy is nearby. Only when enemies are nearby.

Oooh right…yeah I refused to buy Vanguard and it sounds like a pile of :poop::poop::poop: by all accounts. The crap they pulled disrespecting Modern Warfare with Cold War pissed me off no end. I used to watch COD Warzone streams and keep up to date with it, but I honestly haven’t got a clue what’s going on with it now and couldn’t care less until the MW2 is released.

It’s not hypocritical to criticize the game for lack of content. And I am not comparing it to MCC. I am comparing it to the amount of content games like Halo 3 and Halo Reach had at launch from over a decade ago.

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Name any video game in history that had more content at launch than Halo 3 though

I know Warframe pretty well, I started playing it when it launched on Xbox One back in 2013 and let me tell you there was nothing there. No story to speak of, pretty much every tileset felt the same (and there were only like 3 factions and maybe 5 or 6 tilesets each to them with the exception being the Infested who only had 1 or 2 tilesets from what I remember.), you had to rely on stamina which drained incredibly fast, and the game crashed or booted you from the session about every 20 or so minutes. (and that’s just a few of the issues I remember. The bosses didn’t even have unique models for awhile, most of the Corpus bosses all looked like Tech Crewman.)

To this day they still rely on player to player connection, meaning that if even one person has buggy or cruddy internet, everyone is gonna feel it. If they don’t get removed from the session that is.

Not to mention we’ve been getting a drip feed of content that is more than $80 Prime packs or a new Warframe and some weapons. It took us about a year and a half to get more than just a short cutscene (possibly because of Covid but idk, I don’t work for DE).

So yeah, issues aren’t exclusive to Halo: Infinite. I used to also play Neverwinter…until the devs got super greedy and started sacrificing fun for profit.

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Why defend them? You worked for them?
When a product does not meet expectations
It is definitely not the consumer’s fault

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Why do so many people want the game to fail? Is it just an obsession they have?

They don’t really want it to fail, but quite the opposite. They’re just upset/annoyed that Halo Infinite wasn’t the best it could be. Halo Infinite is kind of bare right now in terms of gameplay. I find the customisation to be pretty okay, but I kind of agree with other people when they say Halo Infinite has too few modes. Halo Infinite only has, what, 4 modes and a bonus from an event (i may be wrong about this number, so please correct me if I am)?

I’m pretty neutral about this conversation and about Halo Infinite in general, so please don’t come after me with pitchforks and knives.

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Elder Scrolls Morrowind and Oblivion
Warcraft 3
Starcraft 2
Arcanum
Fallout 2
Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2
Deus Ex 1
No one Lives Forever 1, probably 2 as well
Mechwarrior 4
Total War: Warhammer 2
Mech Assault 1 maybe
Mech Assault 2 maybe
Giants Citizen Kabuto possibly
Sacrifice
Team Buddies

To name a few games I can recall.

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Whaddabout Halo Wars 1/2, Fireteam Raven, and Spartan Assault/Strike?

Borderlands 3 is just one, and like others I could list many more too.

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And this justifies a sequel in the same franchise not living up to its predecessor how?

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You know, you talk an awful lot of smack for someone in Close Air Support distance.

Vanguard launched with more content in a shorter time and on a tighter budget-
No open world campaign but I mean. An empty open world vs a fleshed out multiplayer and campaign?
It’s just hard to find excuses for Infinite with the corporations that are producing it.

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For me it’s the fact that they had 6 years to make this game with several support studios and it came out the way it came out. It’s honestly embarrassing. I didn’t think they could release a game with less content than H5 did but here we are, and that game was made in half the time. Even with H5 they at least added content relatively quick… in Infinite we’ve gotten a couple game modes and LTM’s. At least the campaign is good overall unlike H5. It’s just very obvious to me that they had a failed development cycle and still don’t have their **** together and I’m not sure why people defend it, what good does it do for them? It’s totally fine to enjoy what is there but I don’t get it why people get defensive when someone expresses wanting better.

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This is a could watch for anyone that feels the need to defend 343i and the lack of content…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b3jP_unnA2g

If I had to sound harsh, this is really the same avenue that 343 does. over promise and under sells on launch. but over the years they’ll continue working on the current halo game until it functions and is decent. I think the only halo that wasnt like this was 4, as it came out of the box with everything available. 5 came out bare with too much lootbox hungry issues, but now is…ok (multiplayer wise).

Infinite right now is where 5 was when it came out; not many games, low amount of customization currently (I’ve seen leaks of what will be out in regards of content prior to launch, and there are a lot of items. probably no cross coring and everything will be behind a paywall). in regards to customization, what could make everyone says there is a lack of content on that end is no progression or a show of skill. if you have none of that, you get no reward for playing. and with no reward from play, means no content, hence “lack of content”.

Nah. Halo 3 had 3 new maps by this point in its life. Your outlook forgets how well halo was managed by Bungie in contrast to 343’s incompetence.

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Not at launch, not at all. Most of those games had dlc you paid for each go, and the game wasn’t complete without all the dlc

I’ve never played any of those but I’m sure someone likes them

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Nah. Halo 3 had 3 new maps by this point in its life. Your outlook forgets how well halo was managed by Bungie in contrast to 343’s incompetence.
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I don’t recall the first map pack dropping until quite a while into the halo 3 lifespan. It seems like it was almost a year iirc

Wait I’m thinking of the second map pack, I honestly forgot that the first 3 dlc maps weren’t shipped with the game

Either way they cost money so that’s another factor to consider