Don’t get me wrong. This is possibly my favourite Halo to date. However arena is quickly getting annoying, due to the fact that there is no BR starts. I like that the AR is no longer useless and has it’s place, but the skill gap just isn’t there when we can’t start with a BR.
Discuss.
Br, Supressor, Storm Rifle, Ar, pistol, bolt shot, Carbine
what else do you need?
pistol serves it purpose and the br has it’s purpose. durring the beta the people playing preferred the Ar/pistol over br/pistol starts. the pistol is the new starting utility weapon, though the br still has it’s place.
the BR isnt the end all to all starting weapons.
it was the pistol then the br now it’s back to the pistol, deal with it.
PS there should be a BR starting playlist, in the future. I still toss away my Ar first chance i get.
Why are you using the M6 as a backup?
The M6 appears to have 0 spread and the BR has a spreading burst shot. Meaning perfect aim will net you a hit with the M6, the BR may not register a full hit, at mid-range. They both have a x2 scope. I have yet to confirm the exact points at which red reticle kicks in.
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Draw your pistol.
The Assault Rifle is a pretty good weapon for Mid-to-Long Range.
Agreed there is really no weapons for mid range combat. The BR could be used but if you don’t have precision accuracy it probably won’t go well for you, especially if they have an AR.
No BR starts for anything other than SWAT. That’s how it should be. There are mid-range weapon pickups. Get them and use them.
The range on every weapon is nice and can fit into mid range there’s more mid range weapons then any other as far as I’m concerned.
pistol is a great starting weapon is why. it is balanced for mid and close but does not dominate any. The game also has some BR starts already. They will make more I am sure.
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> No BR starts for anything other than SWAT. That’s how it should be. There are mid-range weapon pickups. Get them and use them.
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> The range on every weapon is nice and can fit into mid range there’s more mid range weapons then any other as far as I’m concerned.
When used right almost any weapon is useful up to mid range, except the shotguns and sword of course. Just have to use your weapons the right way and you will be fine. And the pistol is a spectacular mid range weapon, yet not quite as good as the BR, which is how It should be imo
It would not be so bad if the maps were not absolute trash.
Ar pepper spray from across the map on 3 sides is ruining competitive.
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> Ar pepper spray from across the map on 3 sides is ruining competitive.
This.
This apparent ‘esports’ game is literally just a modernised Halo 3 social slayer.
Halo should be guns-grenade-melee balance, as it always has been. The fact that there isn’t a single ‘rewarding’ gun in the game is ruining that. We need BR start playlists. Even br/ar would work. Just do something to fix this ar spraying mess.
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> This apparent ‘esports’ game is literally just a modernised Halo 3 social slayer.
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> Halo should be guns-grenade-melee balance, as it always has been. The fact that there isn’t a single ‘rewarding’ gun in the game is ruining that. We need BR start playlists. Even br/ar would work. Just do something to fix this ar spraying mess.
After quite a few more games today, I really can’t change my mind, this game will die very quickly unless BRs are implemented as starts. The AR has removed skill from arena. The game has so much potential, but it won’t be realised until we are starting with a skill based weapon (or there is a lot more BRs/Carbines/DMRs on the map).
Surely someone agrees, you can’t be blind to this.
You do realize the AR has a skillgap, right?
Just like how people who can’t aim miss headshots with the BR, bad players will just hold down the trigger on the AR and will miss and won’t land headshots with it. Good AR players will burst and aim and go for headshots now that it has a headshot bonus.
I don’t know why people act like the BR takes so much skill, getting headshots with it has never been hard, it’s really not that much more skillful compared to bursting with the AR, both are about as easy as each other, though I would agree currently simply holding down the trigger is so effective that bursting is often not neeeded, which could be mitigated by reducing bodyshot damage, but by bringing back the headshot bonus on shields like in the beta.
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> You do realize the AR has a skillgap, right?
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> Just like how people who can’t aim miss headshots with the BR, bad players will just hold down the trigger on the AR and will miss and won’t land headshots with it. Good AR players will burst and aim and go for headshots now that it has a headshot bonus.
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> I don’t know why people act like the BR takes so much skill, getting headshots with it has never been hard, it’s really not that much more skillful compared to bursting with the AR, both are about as easy as each other, though I would agree currently simply holding down the trigger is so effective that bursting is often not neeeded, which could be mitigated by reducing bodyshot damage, but by bringing back the headshot bonus on shields like in the beta.
The AR takes as much skill as a BR? Seriously?
Look Halo 5 has awesome movement and map control, but it just doesn’t work when you can hit people from across the map with an AR. t’s simply far too overpowered to play in arena multiplayer. Halo 5 really needs to ditch it, it’s frankly painful to watch.
Everything about AR starts is horrible, from the constant noise to the little guy spraying at you from 500 metres away when you are trying to have a postil battle. The skill gap just isn’t there anymore without BR starts.