The Halo Community is in shambles

Theres the hidden reply let me guess its something like sbmm is good and not a issue

Not going to reveal it tho lol also if im correct please tell me so i could buy myself a lottery ticket for the lols

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You have literally no idea what I think because you are unwilling to read up and educate yourself.

Enjoy your blocking dude - you can join that other dweeb who keeps harassing me across forum topics and I won’t be bothered by you anymore

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Inb4 they respond saying something like thats not true at all i obviously care about others you just want to stomp people excuse or something about harrasing people

Lol - I’ve just noticed all these hidden replies.
You are funny - keep talking and I’ll keep ignoring you

Beeing open and transparent is not 343s strong side, they rather pee on their fans before admitting they failed with the product. I mean 343 had the best chance with that massive userbase, but all they did was blaming the users for cheating and using things like geofilter ruining the experience for others.
When they fixed geofilter they ruined the experience for all users.
They lied so many times man.
Why would I play a game based on lies and lies.
There are no fair matches in Halo Inifinte because you are forced to play players on the other side of the world with 200 ping.

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This is the biggest problem, exclusing desync. I don’t care if it’s sbmm’s fault, the matchmaker’s fault, trueskill 2’s fault, this situation needs to change

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Going to unhide this one and say this warning people about your bs isn’t harassment also its ironic you say people should educate themselves when you think games should put people into laggy matches if all the players are around the same skill level

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If you are on the same skill level but one team has 140 ping, good luck winning. When people quit theese 140 ping games you also screw the skill levels with noobs coming in to join the game.

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Also let me add on to this sbmm, true skill,mmr are all basically the same thing as they all look for matches with people that have the same rank/skill as you

Heck sbmm and mmr based matchmaking are pretty much interchangeable

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Why was the game released in this state?

Because big daddy Microsoft wanted their Halo cash cow out NOW

It doesn’t matter to them if the game is far from ready, execs and investors are getting impatient and pleasing top dogs is far more important than pleasing customers.

That’s just the sad reality of the AAA game industry as a whole.

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I’d actually say the bigger issue was treating Halo Infinite as a single product: the Single Player and Multiplayer are totally separate experiences in effect sharing a launcher. They should have been treated as such

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I agree to this.
Make the perfect Halo multiplayer experience, we dont need Halo 7.
But I think this Halo is doomed.
If the game focused on multiplayer only then I think the game would have lots of players online.
People dont care much about the single player.

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Because this is not a tournament? This is an online video game played for fun. Not every game session is the same. If a player wants a fair test they should go to ranked. Otherwise, social was always the place where you could have a less stressful experience.

Good players should be good players and bad players should be bad. Artificially using a mathematical system to force a good player to as close to a 1kd and a 1.1 WL ratio as you can is bound to create frustration. You don’t play a game constantly, get good at it and invest your time just to have the game manipulate your matches so that you can never progress.

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Not every game needs to be a sweat fest, that should be reserved for ranked.

The primary focus of social should be fun which sbmm doesn’t support.

Games like Battlefield do it best where there is no sbmm but rather it divides the skill evenly between the two teams.

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Fair arguments that I don’t agree with. If you’re good you should have a challenge. A challenge is fun in a competitive 4v4 shooter. I do not want to come up against a team of 4 onyx’s on social when my squad are not onyx - that is not fun.

Remove SBMM and you will have easier matches whilst someone else has harder ones. That is not fair and SBMM levels the playing field

The fact the current one works on team average - which produces this issue - is a separate issue to the fact that teams should be evenly matched.

I wouldn’t want to fight a 5 year old. Without SBMM you get just that

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343 has a multitude of problems, I can’t even cover them all in this. But their major three flaws are:

  1. They need more community transparency, and I think they’ve done somewhat okay… but they need to do even better.

  2. They’re understaffed for a AAA gaming company, they bit off more than they can chew. They had 6 years to make this game, and even then it’s in shambles.

  3. They don’t understand casual gaming. Their game is way too sweaty, and some of you will disagree with this (most of which are newer halo fans), but BR only starts do not belong in a casual playlist. Bloom is a trash RNG mechanic that should never be in halo, it rewards the gambling someone takes when they mash the trigger faster. The AR being too good, along with the assassination of projectile shooting like halo 3’s lowers the skill gap and makes everyone better with weapons in HI, thus making the game incredibly sweaty. Vehicles are also made of tissue paper, the ghost flips easy and can’t navigate any terrain successfully. In general, their sandbox balancing is abysmal and meets the bear minimum.

They have disappointed us time and time again. I’m not sure who’s being held accountable for the state of the community and game. I don’t understand how people can get away with thrusting this franchise further into death. I haven’t touched the game in almost 2 months, and I’ve never taken a break like this from halo so early on, I’ve played halo since I was 5 when CE came out and I haven’t ever felt this way about a halo game before. Microsoft hired people that hated halo to make new halo games, I guess they got what they wanted, a divided audience that can’t see eye to eye on issues. A game that is a husk of its former self, nostalgia aside. Care about your game, become who you were when you fixed MCC, there’s a template right there if how to do right by your fans 343.

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Okay damn sound off and speak the truth.

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You hit the nail on the head with this one. It’s Unfortunate it’s come to this.

343 had many opportunitys to tell us what was going on, as early as the flights, The community was practically begging for transparency.

Which leads me to believe

A: they have lost all control and are desperately trying to steer back on track.

B: they know telling us the truth would’ve impacted their sales and thus the bottom line.

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If I’m to be blunt, the community has been insufferable for much longer, far before Halo Infinite was even announced.

Online activity affords great anonymity so it’s easier to be someone you aren’t when you sit behind a keyboard.

The people that are left are people that either don’t care or are ignorant of the state of the game and the franchise.

My suggestion, just give it up. Come back if it improves. There’s plenty else to do other than to let your concerns fall on deaf ears and be a target for overzealous “fans”.

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In some ways I dont blame microsoft for this. 343 had 6 years. Its not like they weren’t given time. While microsoft has vast sums of money, it doesn’t mean they like tossing it into a bottomless hole.

6 years should have been plenty of time for an engine revamp and for them to make the game. There’s other much more ambitious titles that have done the same in the same time or less.

Given the stories of 343’s messy development, I’m sure Microsoft just wanted a hard deadline to force 343 to get its act together.