THE HALO 4 DMR - OP?

the dmr in halo 4 is a great weapon. to great. this gun needs to be changed now. nothing can stad up to it other than another dmr. it shoots quicker than all the other rifles (save the carbine) and has the acurracy of a sniper rifle. the BR carbine and light rifle are completly underpowered compared to the dmr. the scoped in lightrfle is the ony rifle that can actually make a dmr user lose their shields. the dmr needs some serious balancing work done to make it more fair.

Your thoughts on this uber weapon, the destroyer of both people and vehicles, the most dangerous weapon in the game?

It’s fine. Buff the BR and Carbine ever so slightly, and we’ll be good.

The automatic weapons and vanilla Light Rifle already work well with the DMR in play.

Another one? Lol, the weapons are fine… it’s the players skill vs player error. Simple.

Just when I thought that DMR threads were done…

The only rifle that needs a buff is Carbine. BR, LR, and DMR are fine for now.

I agree 100% this gun is incredibly overpowered!

It isn’t so much over powered as the other starting rifles just seem week when compared to it.

You know you’re being trolled when the OP doesn’t reply to anyone.

A simple solution would be to take out the scoped rifles and put them back into the spawning system like previously implemented. Everything from the DMR to Light Rifle make it almost a necessity in this game. You chose a Assault Rifle? Ok, hope you like camping or staying crouched, because the second you walk out of cover your are going to die in 3 headshots. I don’t even know what to say about the suppressor and Plasma gun, they seem to have no use whatsoever. Figuratively and literally, I don’t think I have seen 1 person use either yet.

The DMR is overpowered, it outclasses all the other long range rifles easily. What can be done is either to nerf the DMR or fix the other 2. Regardless of your choice, the DMR will be the most accurate, highest damage output, and longest range efficiency out of the 4 med-long range weapons. This may be why 15/16 people use it in Big Team Battle, or Everyone in Team Slayer. The practically is just ridiculous. I have found no reason to use any other gun, when all I gotta do is slowly aim towards the head, as a soft auto aim assists me in killing in 3 shots at any range.

This is a long list of problems I have had with this game, compared to other Halos. Beyond the fact they are abusing the COD setup, and making Vehicles extremely vulnerable to everything. Why get in a tank, mantis, ghost, or anything when a pistol can kill you with enough shots. Or the fact you can start with a plasma pistol, charge it then walk up and hijack. But I think the funnest is just harassing them with a DMR till after 2-3 clips, you actually just downright kill a vehicle. Because you know, Tanks are supposed to be weak toward assault rifle fire right?

Kinda makes the rockets and Laser useless, when you can just direct fire with rifles at the vehicle. And the ghost, boy that thing came a long way. Guess 343 must have been run over one too many times by a ghost cause they flip if you hit a pebble. And die if you punch the dam thing.

I think if they want to salvage anything, the long range rifles should return to what they were before. Spawn point weapons. Then we could continue to go back to using a mid range rifle, and work more toward that system. Far more enjoyable than hiding behind cover the entire game, because you can’t move across the map without being lit up. Wouldn’t be so bad, if the dam DMR wasn’t accurate across the full Valhalla or w/e that map is. Sure everyone can start with it. I do myself, doesn’t make this weapon justifiably balanced to be this powerful. It’s pretty much spawning everyone with a fast firing semi-auto low caliber sniper, with a larger clip, faster rate of fire, and low recoil.

I enjoy this game to an extent, but it is getting to the point where I ask myself, why don’t I play COD? I will die in just as many shots, but atleast I have more guns I can choose from. I thoroughly miss the fights over power weapons in Halo 1-3. It was what made me know I was playing a Halo game. This is way too much like COD, and not in a positive way. I understand vehicles were powerful when they couldn’t die, but making a tank vulnerable to a magnum pistol, or just about any other just made their purpose irrelevant. Well there will no longer be those scorpion rampages. Because now the scorpion will die from a rain of DMR fire, before a killing spree could be conceived.

It is a shame, because alot of this Spartan armor looks interesting, and some of the new weapons are interesting as well. Graphics are vastly improved, and the engine is pretty smooth. I just don’t know why 343 had change the formula so drastically.

The DMR is not over-powered, the bad players are under-powered and can’t handle it.

> It’s fine. Buff the BR and Carbine ever so slightly, and we’ll be good.
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> The automatic weapons and vanilla Light Rifle already work well with the DMR in play.

I think its pretty gnarly

The DMR is fine the way it is so let’s instead buff the other guns.

Right now the DMR can shoot twice for every one time the BR does so make the BR’s fire rate the same as the DMR. The DMR will still dominate at long range but will no longer be able to out shoot the BR in short to mid.

The Carbine as it sits right now does have a quick kill time, but its an 8sk so it’s a little unforgiving and difficult to get to its optimal KT. So lets reduce the shots to kill to 7. I think that would give a little more leeway without making it the dominate weapon.

The Light Rifle, it’s scoped function is beautiful, works just fine, and can compete with the DMR at long range. But it’s burst fire function is underwhelming so let’s change that part of the gun. I think increasing the fire rate of the hip fire and tightening its spread (beacuse right now it seems like it has more spread than the BR, if not, then I was wrong and its spread doesn’t need changed) would help and the LR isn’t hitscan so you must lead your shots where the other weapons you don’t, so I think this will balance any change made to the LR.

> …but atleast I have more guns I can choose from.

Right there

Yup, gun is op. People defending it don’t know what they are talking about.

When a rifle made for mid-long range combat outclasses a rifle made for mid-close range combat, in close quarters, something is wrong.

> When a rifle made for mid-long range combat outclasses a rifle made for mid-close range combat, in close quarters, something is wrong.

Yeah, because in reality guns designed for longer ranged combat don’t work at shorter ranges…bullets doing damage? Ridiculous!

The DMR is destroying the fun of the game for me - it outclasses every other weapon.

There’s a reason why 80% of players I’ve encountered have the DMR as their favourite weapon. It’s not a skill vs skill based problem some of these clueless elitists blest on about, the DMR is by the far the easiest starting weapon to rack up kills with. Long range, accurate, large clip, fast rate of fire, and immensely powerful. There is literally no reason not to take it.

Well, there is one reason not to take it - if you don’t want to be a boring little sheep.

BR needs to be 4 shots again. that is all

Disagree - there’s TOO much of a heavy emphasis on precision weaponry on this game, with the load outs and large maps, they need to make other weapons viable.

Halo 4 is a different Halo.

Playing with the DMR since launch and now moving to other weapons, let me tell you, DMR is THE gun to use. You have NO shot with the BR 9 times out of 10 1v1. Lets not even get into if you run into 2v1 problems.

If you don’t have a buddy with you when using the BR, you might as well put the controller down. I’ve tried so hard over the past few days to use the BR, but it is just so underpowered compared to the DMR, and I’m a huge fan of the DMR (never was a BR person).

they definitely need to do some balancing…what I do? I have no idea, but something needs to be done. The BR sucks and theirs no reason to use it over the DMR…period…I’ve tried and I’m going back to the DMR lol