The Halo 4 Designated Marksmen Rifle (DMR)

A lot of People on these Forums are talking about the DMR.I have decided to make yet another post on the Subject but from a Halo story Prospective.Now for a moment lets forget Multiplayer.The DMR Is a Long range rifle.It might be just me but I think it makes perfect since for a Army 500 years in the future to have a long ranged rifle.Yes the BR has always been in Halo but does it not also make since for the UNSC To have another main rifle ? Now on the Multiplayer prospective every since Halo CE the MP weapons of Halo have been based in Campaign and put into Multiplayer.If the DMR Is overpowered it is because the UNSC Had a long range rifle and it was placed in Multiplayer.On another Story prospective the DMR is only in War games so that the Spartans can get better training with it before they are deployed on Requiem.Now go ahead and post your Opinions below but remember.Halo weapons have always been Campaign first then placed in Multiplayer.It has always been and it always will be .

What the -Yoink- are you trying to say? I didn’t understand ANYTHING.

What a compelling argument he has going on.

I’m going to start off by talking about your last point there. In Halo 1, the weapons were made for campaign to then be ported into multiplayer, but at least for Halo 4, it’s been confirmed that the multiplayer balance was designed first, to then be put into campaign.

Secondly, yes, it does make sense for the UNSC to have a long-ranged rifle. But does that mean that it needs to be in-game? No, since gameplay should be the main focus of the game. There are plenty of other weapons in the Haloverse that are never seen or mentioned in the game, such as the M99 Stanchion or the M6J/C Carbine. Just because a weapon exists in the lore, that doesn’t mean that it needs to be in the games.

> A lot of People on these Forums are talking about the DMR.I have decided to make yet another post on the Subject but from a Halo story Prospective.Now for a moment lets forget Multiplayer.The DMR Is a Long range rifle.It might be just me but I think it makes perfect since for a Army 500 years in the future to have a long ranged rifle.Yes the BR has always been in Halo but does it not also make since for the UNSC To have another main rifle ? Now on the Multiplayer prospective every since Halo CE the MP weapons of Halo have been based in Campaign and put into Multiplayer.If the DMR Is overpowered it is because the UNSC Had a long range rifle and it was placed in Multiplayer.On another Story prospective the DMR is only in War games so that the Spartans can get better training with it before they are deployed on Requiem.Now go ahead and post your Opinions below but remember.Halo weapons have always been Campaign first then placed in Multiplayer.It has always been and it always will be .

If you’re going based on the story, the DMR shouldn’t be in Halo 4. The only game it was in was Reach, which was based before Halo CE, Halo 2, and Halo 3 in the story timeline. The DMR isn’t in any of the games after Reach, so why should it suddenly reappear in Halo 4?

> > A lot of People on these Forums are talking about the DMR.I have decided to make yet another post on the Subject but from a Halo story Prospective.Now for a moment lets forget Multiplayer.The DMR Is a Long range rifle.It might be just me but I think it makes perfect since for a Army 500 years in the future to have a long ranged rifle.Yes the BR has always been in Halo but does it not also make since for the UNSC To have another main rifle ? Now on the Multiplayer prospective every since Halo CE the MP weapons of Halo have been based in Campaign and put into Multiplayer.If the DMR Is overpowered it is because the UNSC Had a long range rifle and it was placed in Multiplayer.On another Story prospective the DMR is only in War games so that the Spartans can get better training with it before they are deployed on Requiem.Now go ahead and post your Opinions below but remember.Halo weapons have always been Campaign first then placed in Multiplayer.It has always been and it always will be .
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> If you’re going based on the story, the DMR shouldn’t be in Halo 4. The only game it was in was Reach, which was based before Halo CE, Halo 2, and Halo 3 in the story timeline. The DMR isn’t in any of the games after Reach, so why should it suddenly reappear in Halo 4?

Assault Rifle?

The unsc have always had a long range rifle. Its called a sniper rifle. There is no need for a second long range rifle.

The DMR’s purpose as a weapon in the unsc is totally redundant.

> I’m going to start off by talking about your last point there. In Halo 1, the weapons were made for campaign to then be ported into multiplayer, but at least for Halo 4, it’s been confirmed that the multiplayer balance was designed first, to then be put into campaign.
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> Secondly, yes, it does make sense for the UNSC to have a long-ranged rifle. But does that mean that it needs to be in-game? No, since gameplay should be the main focus of the game. There are plenty of other weapons in the Haloverse that are never seen or mentioned in the game, such as the M99 Stanchion or the M6J/C Carbine. Just because a weapon exists in the lore, that doesn’t mean that it needs to be in the games.

Only weapon I wish was in the game is that specialized Assault Rifle the spartans had, I mean the ODST had a specialized SMG.

Bravesrule10:

> If you’re going based on the story, the DMR shouldn’t be in Halo 4. The only game it was in was Reach, which was based before Halo CE, Halo 2, and Halo 3 in the story timeline. The DMR isn’t in any of the games after Reach, so why should it suddenly reappear in Halo 4?

By that logic, none of the weapons should be in the story.

AR wasn’t in Reach, wasn’t in ODST.
BR wasn’t in H1.
Flamethrower came and went.
Etc, Etc.

> Bravesrule10:
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> > If you’re going based on the story, the DMR shouldn’t be in Halo 4. The only game it was in was Reach, which was based before Halo CE, Halo 2, and Halo 3 in the story timeline. The DMR isn’t in any of the games after Reach, so why should it suddenly reappear in Halo 4?
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> By that logic, none of the weapons should be in the story.
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> AR wasn’t in Reach, wasn’t in ODST.
> BR wasn’t in H1.
> Flamethrower came and went.
> Etc, Etc.

  • AR WAS in Reach AND ODST, are you on something?
  • In Halo 1, you were pretty much isolated from any other weapons
  • Flamethrower was only for the flood

Maybe they brought the DMR back because they realized it out performs the BR?

“Uhm, sir. According to our data, the DMR can shred covenant vehicles, and eliminate a elite’s shield with only four rounds. While our battle rifle takes around three times as many.”

“Why the hell did we stop making these things?”

“People found it hard to use.”

“Well, we won the war. Bring that bad boy back and fix whatever was causing the problem with out enhanced engineering capabilities thanks to those Huragok.”

The DMR was phased out because it lacked power, it fires the exact same round as the AR however in this game it manages to multiply the power of that single round by a factor of 3 (somehow).

As already mentioned the UNSC has the long range covered by the Sniper Rifle, the mid-range with the Battle Rifle, the DMR is just out of place and OP.

IMO it needs to become a little more like the carbine, increased RoF but a 6SK (overall kill time slightly longer then the BR), it retains its mag size but it becomes a 2.3kill mag the same as the BR - not the current 2.8kill it currently has.

It gets to keep its 3X zoom scope - and therefore becomes the range weapon it is supposed to be and a 6SK will keep it in the hands of true marksmen who can consistantly get 6 hits with a headshot at range, its slightly slower killing time will mean its effectiveness will diminish the more the range is reduced.

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Killtime equal to the BR, then make it a 7sk. That way it will be good at range and not shred the others in CQC.

> DarkPengi
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> Bravesrule10:
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> If you’re going based on the story, the DMR shouldn’t be in Halo 4. The only game it was in was Reach, which was based before Halo CE, Halo 2, and Halo 3 in the story timeline. The DMR isn’t in any of the games after Reach, so why should it suddenly reappear in Halo 4?
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> By that logic, none of the weapons should be in the story.
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> AR wasn’t in Reach, wasn’t in ODST.
> BR wasn’t in H1.
> Flamethrower came and went.
> Etc, Etc.
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> - AR WAS in Reach AND ODST, are you on something?
> - In Halo 1, you were pretty much isolated from any other weapons
> - Flamethrower was only for the flood

I meant H2 for the AR, not Reach.
Guess I can’t make a mistake without some condescending jerk-off online trying to insult me, huh?

What does it matter if The DMR Should be in the story or not?Simple truth is that it it in the Halo story so any discussion on why it should not exist is pointless.Also it has been 4 years since the war ended there is no reason why they would not begin making the DMR again.Notice you don’t find it in Campaign until you meet Marines from Infinity?

> What does it matter if The DMR Should be in the story or not?Simple truth is that it it in the Halo story so any discussion on why it should not exist is pointless.Also it has been 4 years since the war ended there is no reason why they would not begin making the DMR again.Notice you don’t find it in Campaign until you meet Marines from Infinity?

The scoped pistol, new br and new warthog model were on the Dawn in halo 4 despite the fact that they were nowhere to be seen on the Dawn in halo 3. So it’s really not pointless at all to question the canon. 343i’s rookie mistakes are pretty easy to spot.

I dont recall being able to get the scarab gun in multiplayer in halo 2, your point is invalid :wink:

I’d use the DMR if it worked like the machine gun. I don’t like these single fire guns.

The M395 DMR needs a nerf.