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The magnum hurts the game in the following ways:
Lowers skill gap
The magnum takes lower skilled players and gives them a tool that allows them to have equal chance of beating a player who has played the game longer and is more skilled with anything other than the magnum.
It isn’t attractive to new players coming into the game
What’s cooler, a fully automatic assault rifle with 32 - 60 rounds with a good sound, good looks or a tiny handheld pistol that sounds like you’re opening a bunch of cans of Coke when it fires? It just isn’t cool. And because of this weapon’s obvious low-skill and OP status it makes other weapons that are cool worthless ie AR, SMG, SAW etc.
It’s not even what the majority of people want
Half or more of the players I see use the AR because A, it’s logical to use the magnum, and B, point #2. And no one except people like Greenskull and the “pro teamers” actually storm the offices of the lead MP designer and demand a pistol that kills in four shots.
It’s in here for the wrong reasons
The Magnum isn’t democratically voted in to an OP status, “leaders of the community” do pressure for it but I do not believe that is what the majority of players want because I hear people complain about it all the time.
It’s a crutch weapon
Watching some of the popular YouTubers using anything but a precision weapon is laughable. I’ve seen them attempt it before, it’s pathetic to watch them try any weapon other than their precious four shot kill weapon. That’s the definition of a crutch weapon.
It takes the entire skill based label of Arena and throws it in the trash
343 took a large chunk of the development time into making sure everything down to thrust distance and movement speed were finely tuned and then in walks the magnum and mocks all of that. It’s no different that giving them a more accurate BR on start. No one would understand if in the main competitive mode every played spawned with a Shotgun, would they?
I whole heartedly believe the Magnum shuts out new players and just is an ugly little thing that has no real world logic at all behind it. I think 343’s want to please the community has lead more to pleasing the loudest voice. 343 has listened to select voices and has tried to out-Halo Halo. Look at H3 (One the vast, vast majority of fans consider to be the best of MP), every weapon has a use and a place and while headshots and precision weapons still mattered, they didn’t dominate in the hands of every player that used them. That’s the issue here really. It isn’t my choice if I want to use the AR and let my own skill and practice pick up the slack, the choice of using the Magnum is shoved down my throat. My skill can’t pick up the slack when the weapon I like more is built to lose. This I believe is the secret that is making Halo less fun. There is no fun in being forced to see the same weapon do the same thing in the same way again and again. There is no variety anymore, it’s all magnum spammers. The majority of gamers will always use the easiest way to get kills regardless of real skill involved. And that’s the real kicker in all this: Halo isn’t a skill based game anymore. That’s right, I’m saying it.
The main weapon on all of the marketing, the choice weapon of the head of the franchise, one of gaming’s move recognizable characters… sucks. Why? Why does the main weapon of the united human military that built the Spartans suck?
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Haha, you’re all so pathetic. I can go on mad rampages with the magnum if I want to, but I don’t because I have real skill and choose to use something that doesn’t do all the work for me.
Is the OP serious. How does using a precious weapon lower the skill gap, if anything it raises it. Another point that you made that doesn’t make sense is that brand new players will automatically go for the magnum, wrong they will go for the AR.
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> Is the OP serious. How does using a precious weapon lower the skill gap, if anything it raises it. Another point that you made that doesn’t make sense is that brand new players will automatically go for the magnum, wrong they will go for the AR.
Yes, they will and get destroyed by anyone that can land 5/12 shots. Ooo, scary accuracy there
This post could have been summarized as saying that the Magnum’s effectiveness (or lack of in some cases) increases the balance and gives both good players and bad players the capability and creativeness to win a match by way of skill.
I think that’s a good thing though. It just needs a slightly more revealing advantage over the AR, so autos are not rewarded so much.
The magnum had such a skill gap are you kidding me? Play against some onyx kids you bad kid then you’ll see haha. You’re raging about having magnum starts and it being the only weapon when the balancing in this game is unreal and every weapon is now useful unlike H3 where if you didnt have a BR you get raped.
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> This post could have been summarized as saying that the Magnum’s effectiveness (or lack of in some cases) increases the balance and gives both good players and bad players the capability and creativeness to win a match by way of skill.
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> I think that’s a good thing though. It just needs a slightly more revealing advantage over the AR, so autos are not rewarded so much.
Ok, at point-blank - ten feet, the magnum can do what it does, that’s fine but it is outrageous to think it should be able to cross map. Which it does. All the time. Why do people forget the “r__ifle” in assault rifle?
And as a long time AR user that isn’t bad at all with it, it isn’t rewarded.
You asked for a logical response to your illogical post. Well here we go!
Halo 5 might be the most balanced, weapon wise, compared to any other Halo. Pretty much all the weapons have a use and a skill gap,. Magnum and every precision weapon in Halo increases the skill gap, rather than lower it. You have to actually aim and hit your last shot (5th shot for Magnum) to actually get a kill. I think it takes 8 or 9 shots to the body to kill someone, which you would be dead by the time you could shoot that many shots. With the AR, you can just hold down your trigger or do burst shots depending on your enemies strafe. The hitbox with the AR is much larger than the Magnum. Everyone spawns with the same weapon, meaning everyone is already at an equal chance of beating a player. In all honesty, if the matchmaking is working in arena, everyone should be equal skill. - Is this even a valid argument? I’m not sure how to even address this comment. All I can say is, holding that CE magnum for the first time, gives me goosebumps till this day. The magnum has and should always be apart of Halo. It’s been neglected since H:CE, and I’m glad it made a return. The AR looks plain and sounds plain. The magnum I think looks and sounds better. The AR/SMG/Storm Rifle/Suppressor work great in the context you should be using it. Meaning, they are mean for short range CQC, not mid to long range, which is what the precision weapons are for. - Actually, the majority wanted equal starts back and to have a precision weapon. I guess you haven’t seen the countless threads about AR/Pistol Starts Vs. BR starts. In which, both sides of the argument, people wanted a precision weapon at the start of the game. - I see people complain about a lot of things on this forum, on other forums and from people’s mouths. Does not mean they are the majority. In no way is the magnum OP, it gives people a fighting chance against the upper tier precision weapons. Do you not remember SMG/AR starts in H2 and H3 and the team who won the initial battle usually won the game since you can’t fight a BR with an SMG or an AR. - So you are basing your assumption on youtube players? That’s very illogical. If you took any type of statistics, you would know this sample size is not conclusive to the entire population, since you are only looking at one portion of the population.The beta the Magnum I think was 6 shots to kill and people provided feedback that the pistol was outclassed by every weapon on the field. It need to be a valid weapon to start with. The BR compared to the past BRs is very easy to use. I think the magnum has a higher skill gap than the BR. I’m so confused about your H3 statement. Are you serious? H3 was dominated by the BR and if you were using the AR in that game,then I feel sorry for you. The skill gap is here and alive in H5, just like it was in CE-3.
You do know that Arena gameplay has always been the same thing over and over again? Which is why people love it. Everyone starts with the same weapons and it’s usually the more skilled team who wins the game. Here is a breakdown of the most used weapon in each Halo.