Could the Covenant have gotten their glassing method from ancient humans? Perhaps the Forerunners got it from the Ancient Humans, and then the Covenant got it from them? This is not what I really think happened, but merely a discussion topic for everyone.
That’s definitely an interesting thought. Thinking about it now the way the Covenant glass planets seems very similar to the way the Ancient Humans did in one of the Halo 4 terminals.
It is a strange irony that ancient Humanity would raze Forerunner worlds in the same manner that the Covenant would later glass Human worlds.
Anyway, the beams the Covenant use to glass planets were originally developed for large-scale excavation (their proper names being “excavation beams”). They name have been influenced by Forerunners (who did raze entire worlds during the Forerunner-Flood war), but who knows. The general idea is to make a world uninhabitable, and in a way mock Humanity. Think of glassing as “kicking them when they’re down”.
Another piece of food for thought: In the Halo 3 terminals, the IsoDidact talks about how he will go on a “Great Journey”, and carry a record of “False Transcendence”. Makes you wonder where the Covenant got the idea of Forerunner Transcending, and that the Halos would propel believes on a Great Journey.
> It is a strange irony that ancient Humanity would raze Forerunner worlds in the same manner that the Covenant would later glass Human worlds.
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> Anyway, the beams the Covenant use to glass planets were originally developed for large-scale excavation (their proper names being “excavation beams”). They name have been influenced by Forerunners (who did raze entire worlds during the Forerunner-Flood war), but who knows. The general idea is to make a world uninhabitable, and in a way mock Humanity. Think of glassing as “kicking them when they’re down”.
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> Another piece of food for thought: In the Halo 3 terminals, the IsoDidact talks about how he will go on a “Great Journey”, and carry a record of “False Transcendence”. Makes you wonder where the Covenant got the idea of Forerunner Transcending, and that the Halos would propel believes on a Great Journey.
But doesn’t glassing release huge amounts of radiation and cause so much debris it clouds the sky potentially causing an ice age for the planet (depends on planet though)? Not sure if details explain otherwise, but judging off of known facts, glassing really seems to be something to screw over a planet rather than a mining tool (though that isn’t to say it never has been used that way).
> > It is a strange irony that ancient Humanity would raze Forerunner worlds in the same manner that the Covenant would later glass Human worlds.
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> > Anyway, the beams the Covenant use to glass planets were originally developed for large-scale excavation (their proper names being “excavation beams”). They name have been influenced by Forerunners (who did raze entire worlds during the Forerunner-Flood war), but who knows. The general idea is to make a world uninhabitable, and in a way mock Humanity. Think of glassing as “kicking them when they’re down”.
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> > Another piece of food for thought: In the Halo 3 terminals, the IsoDidact talks about how he will go on a “Great Journey”, and carry a record of “False Transcendence”. Makes you wonder where the Covenant got the idea of Forerunner Transcending, and that the Halos would propel believes on a Great Journey.
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> But doesn’t glassing release huge amounts of radiation and cause so much debris it clouds the sky potentially causing an ice age for the planet (depends on planet though)? Not sure if details explain otherwise, but judging off of known facts, glassing really seems to be something to screw over a planet rather than a mining tool (though that isn’t to say it never has been used that way).
As far as I’m aware, glassing has never resulted in a planet entering an ice age. Often, the afflicted worlds often turn into vast deserts (like Kholo or Reach), or in some cases, the glassing process can cause atmospheric destabilization, resulting the atmosphere of a planet to evaporate.
Yes, glassing is meant to screw a planet over (and demoralize enemy forces), but I was just bringing up the fact that the glassing beam was originally developed as a mining tool (canonically speaking).
Damn that is ironic.
The Convenant tend to bum a lot of ancient tech and incorporate it into theirs. Its a possibility considering ancient Human tech was close to rivaling the Forerunners.
> The Convenant tend to bum a lot of ancient tech and incorporate it into theirs. Its a possibility considering ancient Human tech was close to rivaling the Forerunners.
Judging they could of probably beat the Forerunners if they weren’t fighting Flood I’d say that statement is correct
> > The Convenant tend to bum a lot of ancient tech and incorporate it into theirs. Its a possibility considering ancient Human tech was close to rivaling the Forerunners.
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> Judging they could of probably beat the Forerunners if they weren’t fighting Flood I’d say that statement is correct
Eh, I don’t think so. There’s no doubt the war would’ve been much more costly for the Forerunners had Ancient Humanity not had to fight and sacrifice a 3rd of their population to the flood, but beating them? No. The Forerunner ecumene encompassed over 3 million worlds. Ancient Humanity in comparison encompassed 20,000+. The Forerunners massively outnumbered Ancient Humanity, even when the humans were at their peak.
> The Convenant tend to bum a lot of ancient tech and incorporate it into theirs. Its a possibility considering ancient Human tech was close to rivaling the Forerunners.
Most of Ancient Humanity’s technology and all evidence of their existence was wiped away by the Forerunners. The Covenant likely still got their excavation beam technology from the Forerunners, who would, much like Ancient Humanity, raze entire worlds to stop the Flood.
> > > It is a strange irony that ancient Humanity would raze Forerunner worlds in the same manner that the Covenant would later glass Human worlds.
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> > > Anyway, the beams the Covenant use to glass planets were originally developed for large-scale excavation (their proper names being “excavation beams”). They name have been influenced by Forerunners (who did raze entire worlds during the Forerunner-Flood war), but who knows. The general idea is to make a world uninhabitable, and in a way mock Humanity. Think of glassing as “kicking them when they’re down”.
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> > > Another piece of food for thought: In the Halo 3 terminals, the IsoDidact talks about how he will go on a “Great Journey”, and carry a record of “False Transcendence”. Makes you wonder where the Covenant got the idea of Forerunner Transcending, and that the Halos would propel believes on a Great Journey.
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> > But doesn’t glassing release huge amounts of radiation and cause so much debris it clouds the sky potentially causing an ice age for the planet (depends on planet though)? Not sure if details explain otherwise, but judging off of known facts, glassing really seems to be something to screw over a planet rather than a mining tool (though that isn’t to say it never has been used that way).
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> As far as I’m aware, glassing has never resulted in a planet entering an ice age. Often, the afflicted worlds often turn into vast deserts (like Kholo or Reach), or in some cases, the glassing process can cause atmospheric destabilization, resulting the atmosphere of a planet to evaporate.
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> Yes, glassing is meant to screw a planet over (and demoralize enemy forces), but I was just bringing up the fact that the glassing beam was originally developed as a mining tool (canonically speaking).
Actually, probably given Harvest’s small size, Harvest went into a planetwide Winter induced by the Glassing it received.
> > > > It is a strange irony that ancient Humanity would raze Forerunner worlds in the same manner that the Covenant would later glass Human worlds.
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> > > > Anyway, the beams the Covenant use to glass planets were originally developed for large-scale excavation (their proper names being “excavation beams”). They name have been influenced by Forerunners (who did raze entire worlds during the Forerunner-Flood war), but who knows. The general idea is to make a world uninhabitable, and in a way mock Humanity. Think of glassing as “kicking them when they’re down”.
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> > > > Another piece of food for thought: In the Halo 3 terminals, the IsoDidact talks about how he will go on a “Great Journey”, and carry a record of “False Transcendence”. Makes you wonder where the Covenant got the idea of Forerunner Transcending, and that the Halos would propel believes on a Great Journey.
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> > > But doesn’t glassing release huge amounts of radiation and cause so much debris it clouds the sky potentially causing an ice age for the planet (depends on planet though)? Not sure if details explain otherwise, but judging off of known facts, glassing really seems to be something to screw over a planet rather than a mining tool (though that isn’t to say it never has been used that way).
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> > As far as I’m aware, glassing has never resulted in a planet entering an ice age. Often, the afflicted worlds often turn into vast deserts (like Kholo or Reach), or in some cases, the glassing process can cause atmospheric destabilization, resulting the atmosphere of a planet to evaporate.
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> > Yes, glassing is meant to screw a planet over (and demoralize enemy forces), but I was just bringing up the fact that the glassing beam was originally developed as a mining tool (canonically speaking).
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> Actually, probably given Harvest’s small size, Harvest went into a planetwide Winter induced by the Glassing it received.
I know Halopedia says that Harvest was turned into an arctic tundra, but I cannot find a source for that. Is it in Fall of Reach, or some other book?
> It is a strange irony that ancient Humanity would raze Forerunner worlds in the same manner that the Covenant would later glass Human worlds.
And that once we were allied with the Prophets, when they would later become our (arguably) greatest enemy.
> > > > > It is a strange irony that ancient Humanity would raze Forerunner worlds in the same manner that the Covenant would later glass Human worlds.
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> > > > > Anyway, the beams the Covenant use to glass planets were originally developed for large-scale excavation (their proper names being “excavation beams”). They name have been influenced by Forerunners (who did raze entire worlds during the Forerunner-Flood war), but who knows. The general idea is to make a world uninhabitable, and in a way mock Humanity. Think of glassing as “kicking them when they’re down”.
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> > > > > Another piece of food for thought: In the Halo 3 terminals, the IsoDidact talks about how he will go on a “Great Journey”, and carry a record of “False Transcendence”. Makes you wonder where the Covenant got the idea of Forerunner Transcending, and that the Halos would propel believes on a Great Journey.
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> > > > But doesn’t glassing release huge amounts of radiation and cause so much debris it clouds the sky potentially causing an ice age for the planet (depends on planet though)? Not sure if details explain otherwise, but judging off of known facts, glassing really seems to be something to screw over a planet rather than a mining tool (though that isn’t to say it never has been used that way).
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> > > As far as I’m aware, glassing has never resulted in a planet entering an ice age. Often, the afflicted worlds often turn into vast deserts (like Kholo or Reach), or in some cases, the glassing process can cause atmospheric destabilization, resulting the atmosphere of a planet to evaporate.
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> > > Yes, glassing is meant to screw a planet over (and demoralize enemy forces), but I was just bringing up the fact that the glassing beam was originally developed as a mining tool (canonically speaking).
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> > Actually, probably given Harvest’s small size, Harvest went into a planetwide Winter induced by the Glassing it received.
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> I know Halopedia says that Harvest was turned into an arctic tundra, but I cannot find a source for that. Is it in Fall of Reach, or some other book?
Halo Wars developer quotes and in game content such as black boxes and images.
> > > > > > It is a strange irony that ancient Humanity would raze Forerunner worlds in the same manner that the Covenant would later glass Human worlds.
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> > > > > > Anyway, the beams the Covenant use to glass planets were originally developed for large-scale excavation (their proper names being “excavation beams”). They name have been influenced by Forerunners (who did raze entire worlds during the Forerunner-Flood war), but who knows. The general idea is to make a world uninhabitable, and in a way mock Humanity. Think of glassing as “kicking them when they’re down”.
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> > > > > > Another piece of food for thought: In the Halo 3 terminals, the IsoDidact talks about how he will go on a “Great Journey”, and carry a record of “False Transcendence”. Makes you wonder where the Covenant got the idea of Forerunner Transcending, and that the Halos would propel believes on a Great Journey.
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> > > > > But doesn’t glassing release huge amounts of radiation and cause so much debris it clouds the sky potentially causing an ice age for the planet (depends on planet though)? Not sure if details explain otherwise, but judging off of known facts, glassing really seems to be something to screw over a planet rather than a mining tool (though that isn’t to say it never has been used that way).
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> > > > As far as I’m aware, glassing has never resulted in a planet entering an ice age. Often, the afflicted worlds often turn into vast deserts (like Kholo or Reach), or in some cases, the glassing process can cause atmospheric destabilization, resulting the atmosphere of a planet to evaporate.
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> > > > Yes, glassing is meant to screw a planet over (and demoralize enemy forces), but I was just bringing up the fact that the glassing beam was originally developed as a mining tool (canonically speaking).
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> > > Actually, probably given Harvest’s small size, Harvest went into a planetwide Winter induced by the Glassing it received.
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> > I know Halopedia says that Harvest was turned into an arctic tundra, but I cannot find a source for that. Is it in Fall of Reach, or some other book?
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> Halo Wars developer quotes and in game content such as black boxes and images.
I’ll have to review those black boxes again. It’s strange, as no other planet, as far as I know, ever encountered nuclear winter. Then again, I don’t think any other planet really had the chance.