For gods sake people does anyone actually do their research. It’s pistol starts and they basically give us a compact dmr. I out shot plenty of dmrs and brs during the beta. It’s glorious to have a good starting weapon that also encourages map movement. It might not have the range of the dmr or br but it’s pretty damn close. This is coming from someone who hates ar starts and loves the battle rifle.
Its AR/Pistol starts. Get off your high horse.
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> Its AR/Pistol starts. Get off your high horse.
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Nobody calls halo ce ar starts because the ar is worthless. It’s pistol starts.
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The AR in Halo 5 is not worthless, Also the AR in CE is a viable weapon and in no way useless. If you want to be really technical both CE and Halo 5 actually are AR starts because when you first spawn in without changing weapon you have the AR in hand.
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The weapon we choose to start with is the utility weapon technicalities never got anyone anywhere. The ar in halo 1 was the worst of all of the games with no melee bleed through. It was stupid easy to 3 shot a ar charging noob
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You don’t get to choose though you are given an AR at the start end of debate. Time for thread to be locked and move along.
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So any opinions that differ from yours needs to be locked ? That’s fair. Everyones just getting in a tizzy over how horrible ar starts are. When the truth is That you spawn with both an ar and a utility weapon.
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> So any opinions that differ from yours needs to be locked ? That’s fair. Everyones just getting in a tizzy over how horrible ar starts are. When the truth is That you spawn with both an ar and a utility weapon.
I’m not giving an opinion just facts from what I know of the game so far. You spawn with both but you start with the AR out so to be pedantic about the subject it is AR starts.
Calling it ‘AR’ Starts implies that the AR is somehow the most important of the two weapons. Most sensible people are going to switch to their Pistol off spawn and only switch back to the AR when the situation calls for it not the other way around.
I feel like a lot of people are setting themselves up for disappointment thinking ‘AR’ Starts are going to be something radically different from the Precision weapon starts of past games. The Pistol post-beta is almost identical in function to the BR and I would wager most people who are asking for it to be buffed already think its a solid weapon, they just want it to be better.
Pistol and friends are still going to be important to gameplay, the only difference is that the auto weapons are not crap anymore like they were in H2/H3/Reach.
What is the point of this thread?
H5G will be AR/Pitsol starts, autos have been greatly buffed compared to former Halos while percesion weapons didn’t change much, both starting weapons have the same TTK while the AR is much easier to use but lacks the ability to pull off long distance kill with auto map pick-ups killing faster, the pistol is the hard to use precision but can be “upgraded” by picking up BR/DMR which have the same TTK but are easier to use.
In the end pistols will dominate esport due to most players having prefering precision weapon but the AR will play a important role as well, “social” playlist will probably be a total AR fest due to it’s simplicity to shoot and it’s short-mid range strength
My perfect solution for this situation? Improve the pistol to make it more viable but even in the current state I like that 343 at least tries to have a starting weapon for both auto and precision fans
Even though there are a million AR/BR start threads I approve of this one because people seem to somehow forget this in discussion. All the complaints about AR starts and those people rarely even mention the fact that you have a pistol as an option that’s basically a DMR with a little less range (and maybe a slightly slower fire rate after the post-beta tweak). Most recent example is the AR/BR poll and people’s responses…it’s like come on dude, all of these arguments are completely null and void.
With that said, you’re understating the viability of the AR at close range in H5.
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> Calling it ‘AR’ Starts implies that the AR is somehow the most important of the two weapons. Most sensible people are going to switch to their Pistol off spawn and only switch back to the AR when the situation calls for it not the other way around.
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No it just implies that it is the weapon you start with off spawn not that it is the better of the two weapons. At the end of the day though it really shouldn’t matter what it is call as we spawn with both a precision and automatic weapon that should be all that counts.
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Clearly you and I played different versions of CE.
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To kill the last 30 minutes I have till weekend 
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I hate to be the one to tell you this, but any and all halo 5 esport will be BR starts
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I agree its ultimately a discussion over semantics, I have just found it silly that over the time in these forums people have been celebrating AR starts as if they will somehow be radically different from the BR starts they seem to hate so much since the Pistol fills virtually the same role. I would support calling them Pistol starts simply so people understand what they will be getting since an unfortunate number don’t seem to realize this.
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Don’t spread lies 343’s esport tourneys have been AR/Pistol starts for Halo 5. If MLG or other pro circuit groups pick up the game again things may change wait until the game is out though BR will not necessarily be the go to weapon of choice.
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Because??
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Agreed I however do not care, just let everyone get on with it and be happy, if they want to run around with AR’s spraying and praying let them. I for one will insta switch to my pistol off spawn and be popping their little head left, right and centre.