The battle pass and limited time challenges are really hurting the game. I kept saying the bp should go, and this is a good reason as to why. There’s nothing wrong with challenges. You can keep the challenges, but don’t make them time limited and the only way to rank up. Let us take our time with them. The luck factor has to go too.
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Sensible answer thank you, I just find it crazy that a player going afk is happening often enough to have any sort of impact. We all have terrible games here and there with trolling teammates, quite or AFK players but it is so few and far between.
It really feels like someone felt it was a good argument, came up with it and now people parrot it despite not even seeing it in game themselves.
Same deal with the “people aren’t playing objective, they’re just doing challenges” crowd.
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I have turned to playing Lawnmower simulator and having more fun with it than Halo Infinite lol.
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I found this post interesting when comparing Halo Infinite to Halo 3/Reach’s systems.
https://reddit.com/r/halo/comments/r5fo5l/_/hmmpezq/?context=1
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I recently completed the battlepass and can confirm, the game is 10 times funner when you dont have a ball and chain on your ankle.
that being said it hasnt taken me over 4 hours to get to the weekly ultimate challenge since they reworked the challenges in the first week.
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I’ve always hated any type of challenges that involves “kill x Spartans with a certain type of weapon” I’ve been saying it since 343 started doing it in Halo 4, All this does is make people play the challenge and not really the objective at hand. I can remember seeing kids run around with just a plasma pistol trying to kill people to complete a challenge… I’ve literally had people tell me during the game I don’t even care about winning I just want to complete the challenge… 
Absolutely hate it! I’m pretty much at the point where I can’t play Halo anymore unless I’m playing with people because this is the type of crap that I encounter all the time.
As far as the battle pass goes, I could care less about it. It’s just a super money grab. Yes 343 Battle pass is much better than other games battle passes, I’ll fully admit that. Their progression system is terrible and I know people want to get experience with medals which I think is ridiculous because winning should be what’s important not stupid medals! You’re already getting recognition for what you did hence you out of medal!!! 
I definitely don’t care about the battle pass I don’t care about challenges and the people I play with are the same and I agree with the OP it’s much better to play like that. If everyone did that they would force 343 / Microsoft to make some changes to the game.
Personally, I would just get rid of the battle pass system and have it so all colors are available like it was in past games and then you just make every piece of armor, stance, weapon skin whatever…between $1 to $5 in price and just let people buy what they want. I would then put focuses on special events that give exclusive stuff that only are available say at certain seasons, time of the year etc (kind of like what overwatch does) You could have these weekly, every couple weeks, monthly whatever… You get the idea. I would then have a progression system for EXP like Halo Reach.
I’m enjoying Halo infinite but they seriously need to fix the aiming or hit registry or whatever the hell it is…the progression system… And for the life of me I don’t understand why you would not have a full on four Slayer playlist right from the get-go! Slayer has been the most popular game mode since…well, forever!! Just seems a little… stupid. It’s things like that that make me go who’s calling the shots on this? Whose idea was it not to have a slayer playlist from the get-go… Boggles my mind.
To be perfectly fair, 80% of the players who load up into a match don’t even like the game mode they got thrown into in the first place.
That’s why you always have those 5 players on each team playing like it’s Slayer and getting double digit kill score while their objective score is a permanent 0.
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My favorite one so far, is that person in my last CTF game who repeatedly took the enemy flag back to the enemy base.
But that’s the disadvantage of F2P games, attracting all kinds of people. And for some it might be the first Halo game ever.
I feel like in BTB games, there is a higher chance to win since there are more players. And I always hope that there are at least 5 persons that know what they do.
But yeah, that is all kinda sad.
most challenges say play in PVP bot bootcamp is not pvp
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I’ve only made that mistake once myself cause I forgot what team outline color my flag was registered to lol
Just don’t look at your challenges if it’s bothering you like that. You’ll still complete it well before the next season starts.
Not to mention how the challenges are there regardless of the pass and they build up towards other rewards, so buying the pass is a psychological difference.
Participation trophies for everyone!!! Isn’t that what this world is turning to?
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Participation would imply he didn’t do anything. Even without challenges, not everyone is on to seriously chase objectives. People can play games for vastly different reasons, and no way is of any less value as long as they are enjoying it. If they want to complete their challenge, then that match was a win for them.
But that’s exactly it… you don’t have to do anything to get the exact same XP as everyone else.
In your scenario, he was focusing on the mangler to beat a challenge.
So, he was using a weapon to beat a challenge and earn more experience.
That’s not the same as not doing anything.
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The unfortunate thing is the battle pass is the only way to feel like you’re progressing. I don’t want to play a mindless game all day and it helps.
I will say, as I’ve said multiple times in multiple threads, they need MCCs system. It worked perfectly, you got xp based on performance and completion and the challenges supplemented it. They want to keep swaps the the weekly? Fine, keep the pass for $10 every few months? I don’t like it but ok. This current system just feels sad especially when the armor is lack luster in the pass, don’t get me wrong odst is on of my favorite sets, but there’s more filler than there is thriller in it, and the store is just awful.
The worst part is tho a bunch of us can abstain from it but people will still buy it and there’s no incentive to change it.
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totally you right.
Challenges must can complete by any game mode.
many player quit game, because it not my challenges game mode.
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yeah changing that should bring upa prompt asking you if you want to do it
outside of weekly challenges yeah you don’t’ have to participate, you can literally just join a game sit around and move around a little to not be kicked for inactivity and you’ll get that play a game challeng every time no matter what.