WARNING: Possible spoilers for anyone who has not yet read Halo: Cryptum! (I am not willing to put my entire post into a spoiler tag.)
I always knew since Halo: Combat Evolved that the Flood were based, gameplay-wise, off of zombies, but their backstory really just confirms that. I know that I am very late to the game (metaphorically speaking, since we are on a gaming forum site), but I have only this year started reading the Forerunner novels by Greg Bear (almost finished with Cryptum). As I was reading the scene where Bornstellar pieces together the history of the Flood while heading to the Forerunner capital world, the main thing that stood out to me was that it played out essentially the same way that most zombie stories do. Someone or something gets infected either deliberately or unknowingly by a mysterious source, signs start to show, then cannibalism sets in and the “disease” quickly spreads. In the case of the Flood, it was the mysterious canisters of powder on mysterious ghost ships (Cryptum (2015 paperback edition), 268) that started it all, and I can’t help but be reminded of the canisters of black (weaponized) goo found on the Engineer ship in the film Prometheus (hate me for it, but I actually really enjoy that movie). It’s the Pheru, animals used as pets, that begin the infection (269).
Now, I know I’ve said time and time again in these forums that I have a distaste for a majority of the Halo EU materials, but I thought that the Forerunner trilogy would be fun to read from a sci-fi novel perspective, and I still plan on reading Primordium and Silentium once I get my hands on them. However, I somehow am split on how I feel about the description of the origins (as ancient Humans and Forerunners knew it) of the Flood. On one hand, the backstory fits with the zombie theme that’s been there since Combat Evolved; but on the other hand, it seems too revealing and maybe too cliche (even if the source of the powder itself is unknown to the Humans, Forerunners, and San-Shyuum). There’s just something frightening about not knowing where the Flood came from - the vague explanation early on in the Halo universe materials that they simply came from outside of the Milky Way (I believe?) was foreboding enough. But to know that they (as we know them now) began as mutations in pets, of all things, which then infected Humans…takes away some of the creepiness. So you could argue that the genetic history of the Flood as we know them “today” can be traced back to…the Pheru (because I am sure that the Flood keep and pass on the DNA when they consume their hosts and move on to a new one).
So…those are my (late) feelings about it. What do the rest of you think about this development in the story? Does it change the way you view the Flood in the games at all? Would you have wanted a different explanation for their origin?
PS: I am aware that the dust came from Precursors. But this conversation is purely about how the Flood became “the Flood” and gained physical form after being sent out into the galaxy as canisters of dust.
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> WARNING: Possible spoilers for anyone who has not yet read Halo: Cryptum! (I am not willing to put my entire post into a spoiler tag.)
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> I always knew since Halo: Combat Evolved that the Flood were based, gameplay-wise, off of zombies, but their backstory really just confirms that. I know that I am very late to the game (metaphorically speaking, since we are on a gaming forum site), but I have only this year started reading the Forerunner novels by Greg Bear (almost finished with Cryptum). As I was reading the scene where Bornstellar pieces together the history of the Flood while heading to the Forerunner capital world, the main thing that stood out to me was that it played out essentially the same way that most zombie stories do. Someone or something gets infected either deliberately or unknowingly by a mysterious source, signs start to show, then cannibalism sets in and the “disease” quickly spreads. In the case of the Flood, it was the mysterious canisters of powder on mysterious ghost ships (Cryptum (2015 paperback edition), 268) that started it all, and I can’t help but be reminded of the canisters of black (weaponized) goo found on the Engineer ship in the film Prometheus (hate me for it, but I actually really enjoy that movie). It’s the Pheru, animals used as pets, that begin the infection (269).
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> Now, I know I’ve said time and time again in these forums that I have a distaste for a majority of the Halo EU materials, but I thought that the Forerunner trilogy would be fun to read from a sci-fi novel perspective, and I still plan on reading Primordium and Silentium once I get my hands on them. However, I somehow am split on how I feel about the description of the origins (as ancient Humans and Forerunners knew it) of the Flood. On one hand, the backstory fits with the zombie theme that’s been there since Combat Evolved; but on the other hand, it seems too revealing and maybe too cliche (even if the source of the powder itself is unknown to the Humans, Forerunners, and San-Shyuum). There’s just something frightening about not knowing where the Flood came from - the vague explanation early on in the Halo universe materials that they simply came from outside of the Milky Way (I believe?) was foreboding enough. But to know that they (as we know them now) began as mutations in pets, of all things, which then infected Humans…takes away some of the creepiness. So you could argue that the genetic history of the Flood as we know them “today” can be traced back to…the Pheru (because I am sure that the Flood keep and pass on the DNA when they consume their hosts and move on to a new one).
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> So…those are my (late) feelings about it. What do the rest of you think about this development in the story? Does it change the way you view the Flood in the games at all? Would you have wanted a different explanation for their origin?
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> PS: I am aware that the dust came from Precursors. But this conversation is purely about how the Flood became “the Flood” and gained physical form after being sent out into the galaxy as canisters of dust.
Actually, the dust is the corrupted Precursors that tried to preserve themselves. When the Forerunners started killing the Precursors, some of the Precursors turned themselves into a dust so that they could reform in the future. Somewhere in the timeline, the dust got corrupted and the flood formed from that corrupted dust.
I’m not sure this is correct, but I heard this from somewhere.
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> Actually, the dust is the corrupted Precursors that tried to preserve themselves. When the Forerunners started killing the Precursors, some of the Precursors turned themselves into a dust so that they could reform in the future. Somewhere in the timeline, the dust got corrupted and the flood formed from that corrupted dust.
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> I’m not sure this is correct, but I heard this from somewhere.
I have also heard this many times just by being in these forums. However, my original post is about people’s thoughts about this specific aspect of the Flood’s “emergence”, so to speak (the powder being used on the Pheru and then mutating them and so on and so forth).
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> > WARNING: Possible spoilers for anyone who has not yet read Halo: Cryptum! (I am not willing to put my entire post into a spoiler tag.)
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> > I always knew since Halo: Combat Evolved that the Flood were based, gameplay-wise, off of zombies, but their backstory really just confirms that. I know that I am very late to the game (metaphorically speaking, since we are on a gaming forum site), but I have only this year started reading the Forerunner novels by Greg Bear (almost finished with Cryptum). As I was reading the scene where Bornstellar pieces together the history of the Flood while heading to the Forerunner capital world, the main thing that stood out to me was that it played out essentially the same way that most zombie stories do. Someone or something gets infected either deliberately or unknowingly by a mysterious source, signs start to show, then cannibalism sets in and the “disease” quickly spreads. In the case of the Flood, it was the mysterious canisters of powder on mysterious ghost ships (Cryptum (2015 paperback edition), 268) that started it all, and I can’t help but be reminded of the canisters of black (weaponized) goo found on the Engineer ship in the film Prometheus (hate me for it, but I actually really enjoy that movie). It’s the Pheru, animals used as pets, that begin the infection (269).
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> > Now, I know I’ve said time and time again in these forums that I have a distaste for a majority of the Halo EU materials, but I thought that the Forerunner trilogy would be fun to read from a sci-fi novel perspective, and I still plan on reading Primordium and Silentium once I get my hands on them. However, I somehow am split on how I feel about the description of the origins (as ancient Humans and Forerunners knew it) of the Flood. On one hand, the backstory fits with the zombie theme that’s been there since Combat Evolved; but on the other hand, it seems too revealing and maybe too cliche (even if the source of the powder itself is unknown to the Humans, Forerunners, and San-Shyuum). There’s just something frightening about not knowing where the Flood came from - the vague explanation early on in the Halo universe materials that they simply came from outside of the Milky Way (I believe?) was foreboding enough. But to know that they (as we know them now) began as mutations in pets, of all things, which then infected Humans…takes away some of the creepiness. So you could argue that the genetic history of the Flood as we know them “today” can be traced back to…the Pheru (because I am sure that the Flood keep and pass on the DNA when they consume their hosts and move on to a new one).
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> > So…those are my (late) feelings about it. What do the rest of you think about this development in the story? Does it change the way you view the Flood in the games at all? Would you have wanted a different explanation for their origin?
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> > PS: I am aware that the dust came from Precursors. But this conversation is purely about how the Flood became “the Flood” and gained physical form after being sent out into the galaxy as canisters of dust.
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> Do you think the dust somehow mutated?
Of course, but the fact that the ships that the powder was stored in were described as unmanned and completely automated, and came into the Milky Way, is highly suspicious, seeming downright deliberate.
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> Of course, but the fact that the ships that the powder was stored in were described as unmanned and completely automated, and came into the Milky Way, is highly suspicious, seeming downright deliberate.
It was. I’d suggest you read the rest of the Saga. It was all deliberate.
I mean, it’s not like when people started turning into cannibals, they also lost the ability to rationally think. What’s truly terrifying about the cannibal stage of the dust is that people were going out of their way to infect others and cults formed where they fattened non-infected and then consumed them. Considering what the dust eventually transformed into, I’d rather not know what the infected’s logic for performing ritualistic cannibalism was.
That’s some nightmare-lovercraft end-of-times stuff.
Personally, now this is just me…I think the whole “dust” thing is pretty lame and pretty much ruined the Flood for me.
With how advanced and knowledgeable the Forerunners were, it’s reasonable to think they’d always be looking for new answers to old problems, to explain the unexplained. The most majorly controversial experiment in modern science is that of creating life; It’s often seen as a “taboo” of sorts and many see it as “playing God”. So I imagined the Flood were a product of the Forerunners kind of “overstepping their bounds” and going after the prize of creating a life form gone horribly wrong.
After seeing the poorly-written Librarian scene in Halo 4, I thought this was kind of the case when she was talking about the Forerunners trying to achieve immortality through digitization, and the supposed deformities it produced.
Needless to say I was pretty taken aback when I found that this was apparently the backstory for why the Didact became an angry warmonger instead, and as an added kick to the balls I later learned the Forerunners actually have NO problems with creating life as the Librarian could farm up a fresh batch of Humans whenever she damn-well pleased.
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> Personally, now this is just me…I think the whole “dust” thing is pretty lame and pretty much ruined the Flood for me.
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> With how advanced and knowledgeable the Forerunners were, it’s reasonable to think they’d always be looking for new answers to old problems, to explain the unexplained. The most majorly controversial experiment in modern science is that of creating life; It’s often seen as a “taboo” of sorts and many see it as “playing God”. So I imagined the Flood were a product of the Forerunners kind of “overstepping their bounds” and going after the prize of creating a life form gone horribly wrong.
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> After seeing the poorly-written Librarian scene in Halo 4, I thought this was kind of the case when she was talking about the Forerunners trying to achieve immortality through digitization, and the supposed deformities it produced.
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> Needless to say I was pretty taken aback when I found that this was apparently the backstory for why the Didact became an angry warmonger instead, and as an added kick to the balls I later learned the Forerunners actually have NO problems with creating life as the Librarian could farm up a fresh batch of Humans whenever she damn-well pleased.
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> > Actually, the dust is the corrupted Precursors that tried to preserve themselves. When the Forerunners started killing the Precursors, some of the Precursors turned themselves into a dust so that they could reform in the future. Somewhere in the timeline, the dust got corrupted and the flood formed from that corrupted dust.
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> > I’m not sure this is correct, but I heard this from somewhere.
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> I have also heard this many times just by being in these forums. However, my original post is about people’s thoughts about this specific aspect of the Flood’s “emergence”, so to speak (the powder being used on the Pheru and then mutating them and so on and so forth).
That wouldn’t make sense because the Precursors plan on using the Flood to test humanity if they are worthy of the mantle and to bring unity to the galaxy. Either way it seems Precursors want unity and peace, and they will achieve that through the flood. If humans continue there wreckless path (especially with ONI promoting civil war to keep the Elites weak) and do not join forces with other races we stand no chance against the flood. The flood will take over and unite everyone under the gravemind (s). But if we change our ways and do unite to combat the flood and some how do defeat them we are worthy of the mantle. But why would the Precursors want unity? It sounds dangerous, and how Forerunners were able to defeat them why would they risk it again?
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> > > Actually, the dust is the corrupted Precursors that tried to preserve themselves. When the Forerunners started killing the Precursors, some of the Precursors turned themselves into a dust so that they could reform in the future. Somewhere in the timeline, the dust got corrupted and the flood formed from that corrupted dust.
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> > > I’m not sure this is correct, but I heard this from somewhere.
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> > I have also heard this many times just by being in these forums. However, my original post is about people’s thoughts about this specific aspect of the Flood’s “emergence”, so to speak (the powder being used on the Pheru and then mutating them and so on and so forth).
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> That wouldn’t make sense because the Precursors plan on using the Flood to test humanity if they are worthy of the mantle and to bring unity to the galaxy. Either way it seems Precursors want unity and peace, and they will achieve that through the flood. If humans continue there wreckless path (especially with ONI promoting civil war to keep the Elites weak) and do not join forces with other races we stand no chance against the flood. The flood will take over and unite everyone under the gravemind (s). But if we change our ways and do unite to combat the flood and some how do defeat them we are worthy of the mantle. But why would the Precursors want unity? It sounds dangerous, and how Forerunners were able to defeat them why would they risk it again?
So…the Precursors are still alive as well? Just like the Forerunners? And are still actively shaping the galaxy? Because I notice you are speaking in the tense of the present, that the Precursors are doing these things, not that they did those things. I’d rather some things still remain a mystery in the Halo universe, and not over-explain the Precursors, the last remaining mystery of this franchise.
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> > Personally, now this is just me…I think the whole “dust” thing is pretty lame and pretty much ruined the Flood for me.
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> > With how advanced and knowledgeable the Forerunners were, it’s reasonable to think they’d always be looking for new answers to old problems, to explain the unexplained. The most majorly controversial experiment in modern science is that of creating life; It’s often seen as a “taboo” of sorts and many see it as “playing God”. So I imagined the Flood were a product of the Forerunners kind of “overstepping their bounds” and going after the prize of creating a life form gone horribly wrong.
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> > After seeing the poorly-written Librarian scene in Halo 4, I thought this was kind of the case when she was talking about the Forerunners trying to achieve immortality through digitization, and the supposed deformities it produced.
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> > Needless to say I was pretty taken aback when I found that this was apparently the backstory for why the Didact became an angry warmonger instead, and as an added kick to the balls I later learned the Forerunners actually have NO problems with creating life as the Librarian could farm up a fresh batch of Humans whenever she damn-well pleased.
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> Where is this coming from?
Halo 4 Terminals. I think she made Humans twice after the Didact destroyed them on two occasions.
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> Personally, now this is just me…I think the whole “dust” thing is pretty lame and pretty much ruined the Flood for me.
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> With how advanced and knowledgeable the Forerunners were, it’s reasonable to think they’d always be looking for new answers to old problems, to explain the unexplained. The most majorly controversial experiment in modern science is that of creating life; It’s often seen as a “taboo” of sorts and many see it as “playing God”. So I imagined the Flood were a product of the Forerunners kind of “overstepping their bounds” and going after the prize of creating a life form gone horribly wrong.
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> After seeing the poorly-written Librarian scene in Halo 4, I thought this was kind of the case when she was talking about the Forerunners trying to achieve immortality through digitization, and the supposed deformities it produced.
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> Needless to say I was pretty taken aback when I found that this was apparently the backstory for why the Didact became an angry warmonger instead, and as an added kick to the balls I later learned the Forerunners actually have NO problems with creating life as the Librarian could farm up a fresh batch of Humans whenever she damn-well pleased.
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For me, I just feel a little bit irked that there is a 100% solid explanation for the Flood’s emergence, instead of leaving it foreboding and unknown. And the whole “creation” of the Flood was explained in an expository piece via piecing together memories and information, of all things.
And I will admit, that scene in Halo 4 really could have been done much better. It kind of happened out of the blue, even though the Master Chief was being lead by friendly Sentinels, which hinted at something important. But it did feel very rushed, and I don’t think the Librarian’s “essence” is ever seen again the game, right? Only in those Escalation comics, which I have no interest in reading.
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> > > Personally, now this is just me…I think the whole “dust” thing is pretty lame and pretty much ruined the Flood for me.
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> > > With how advanced and knowledgeable the Forerunners were, it’s reasonable to think they’d always be looking for new answers to old problems, to explain the unexplained. The most majorly controversial experiment in modern science is that of creating life; It’s often seen as a “taboo” of sorts and many see it as “playing God”. So I imagined the Flood were a product of the Forerunners kind of “overstepping their bounds” and going after the prize of creating a life form gone horribly wrong.
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> > > After seeing the poorly-written Librarian scene in Halo 4, I thought this was kind of the case when she was talking about the Forerunners trying to achieve immortality through digitization, and the supposed deformities it produced.
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> > > Needless to say I was pretty taken aback when I found that this was apparently the backstory for why the Didact became an angry warmonger instead, and as an added kick to the balls I later learned the Forerunners actually have NO problems with creating life as the Librarian could farm up a fresh batch of Humans whenever she damn-well pleased.
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> Halo 4 Terminals. I think she made Humans twice after the Didact destroyed them on two occasions.
Ah, I remember in Cryptum it was explained that when Humanity got too powerful, they were genetically reduced back to a primitive state and the Librarian vouched to protect the Humans on Earth, or something to that effect. She also apparently took Humans and other races to the Ark as a kind of pet zoo or rehabilitation project (that’s how it sounded to me, at least). That’s the limit to my knowledge on that, as I haven’t been able to figure out how to watch the two terminals in H4 I actually did find.
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> > Of course, but the fact that the ships that the powder was stored in were described as unmanned and completely automated, and came into the Milky Way, is highly suspicious, seeming downright deliberate.
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> It was. I’d suggest you read the rest of the Saga. It was all deliberate.
I do plan on reading the rest of the books. Just need to buy them, cheaply preferably. Wish they had been released in the small paperback format that Cryptum was, so that they could be $10 instead of $16.
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> > > > Actually, the dust is the corrupted Precursors that tried to preserve themselves. When the Forerunners started killing the Precursors, some of the Precursors turned themselves into a dust so that they could reform in the future. Somewhere in the timeline, the dust got corrupted and the flood formed from that corrupted dust.
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> > > > I’m not sure this is correct, but I heard this from somewhere.
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> > > I have also heard this many times just by being in these forums. However, my original post is about people’s thoughts about this specific aspect of the Flood’s “emergence”, so to speak (the powder being used on the Pheru and then mutating them and so on and so forth).
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> > That wouldn’t make sense because the Precursors plan on using the Flood to test humanity if they are worthy of the mantle and to bring unity to the galaxy. Either way it seems Precursors want unity and peace, and they will achieve that through the flood. If humans continue there wreckless path (especially with ONI promoting civil war to keep the Elites weak) and do not join forces with other races we stand no chance against the flood. The flood will take over and unite everyone under the gravemind (s). But if we change our ways and do unite to combat the flood and some how do defeat them we are worthy of the mantle. But why would the Precursors want unity? It sounds dangerous, and how Forerunners were able to defeat them why would they risk it again?
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> So…the Precursors are still alive as well? Just like the Forerunners? And are still actively shaping the galaxy? Because I notice you are speaking in the tense of the present, that the Precursors are doing these things, not that they did those things. I’d rather some things still remain a mystery in the Halo universe, and not over-explain the Precursors, the last remaining mystery of this franchise.
I may be wrong so don’t take this as solid fact, but I believe the only “precursor” alive would be in the form of the primordial, otherwise known as the gravemind. I think his essence can be transferred around to new gravemind bodies when the one he’s inhabiting is destroyed. (At least that was the impression I’ve gotten from various vague sources…) there may also be some precursors left in another galaxy?
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> > > > Personally, now this is just me…I think the whole “dust” thing is pretty lame and pretty much ruined the Flood for me.
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> > > > With how advanced and knowledgeable the Forerunners were, it’s reasonable to think they’d always be looking for new answers to old problems, to explain the unexplained. The most majorly controversial experiment in modern science is that of creating life; It’s often seen as a “taboo” of sorts and many see it as “playing God”. So I imagined the Flood were a product of the Forerunners kind of “overstepping their bounds” and going after the prize of creating a life form gone horribly wrong.
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> > > > After seeing the poorly-written Librarian scene in Halo 4, I thought this was kind of the case when she was talking about the Forerunners trying to achieve immortality through digitization, and the supposed deformities it produced.
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> > > > Needless to say I was pretty taken aback when I found that this was apparently the backstory for why the Didact became an angry warmonger instead, and as an added kick to the balls I later learned the Forerunners actually have NO problems with creating life as the Librarian could farm up a fresh batch of Humans whenever she damn-well pleased.
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> Ah, I remember in Cryptum it was explained that when Humanity got too powerful, they were genetically reduced back to a primitive state and the Librarian vouched to protect the Humans on Earth, or something to that effect. She also apparently took Humans and other races to the Ark as a kind of pet zoo or rehabilitation project (that’s how it sounded to me, at least). That’s the limit to my knowledge on that, as I haven’t been able to figure out how to watch the two terminals in H4 I actually did find.
Oh ok. I guess that’s better, but yeah that scene came pretty much out of nowhere.
It was several minutes of pulse-pounding violence suddenly interrupted by a four-minute mind-numbingly confusing info dump, then she makes Chief into a Super Saiyan and sends him back into a finale of intense violence.
I just think 343 was taking it all too fast with throwing the curtain off of Halo’s pre-historic era. Some things are better without explanations (at least until near the end of the new Trilogy/Saga).
EDIT: Oh yeah, also that WAS the Librarian’s only appearance in the campaign, but she does appear in Spartan Ops in a similar fashion.
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> > > > > Personally, now this is just me…I think the whole “dust” thing is pretty lame and pretty much ruined the Flood for me.
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> > > > > With how advanced and knowledgeable the Forerunners were, it’s reasonable to think they’d always be looking for new answers to old problems, to explain the unexplained. The most majorly controversial experiment in modern science is that of creating life; It’s often seen as a “taboo” of sorts and many see it as “playing God”. So I imagined the Flood were a product of the Forerunners kind of “overstepping their bounds” and going after the prize of creating a life form gone horribly wrong.
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> > > > > After seeing the poorly-written Librarian scene in Halo 4, I thought this was kind of the case when she was talking about the Forerunners trying to achieve immortality through digitization, and the supposed deformities it produced.
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> > > > > Needless to say I was pretty taken aback when I found that this was apparently the backstory for why the Didact became an angry warmonger instead, and as an added kick to the balls I later learned the Forerunners actually have NO problems with creating life as the Librarian could farm up a fresh batch of Humans whenever she damn-well pleased.
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> > Ah, I remember in Cryptum it was explained that when Humanity got too powerful, they were genetically reduced back to a primitive state and the Librarian vouched to protect the Humans on Earth, or something to that effect. She also apparently took Humans and other races to the Ark as a kind of pet zoo or rehabilitation project (that’s how it sounded to me, at least). That’s the limit to my knowledge on that, as I haven’t been able to figure out how to watch the two terminals in H4 I actually did find.
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> Oh ok. I guess that’s better, but yeah that scene came pretty much out of nowhere.
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> It was several minutes of pulse-pounding violence suddenly interrupted by a four-minute mind-numbingly confusing info dump, then she makes Chief into a Super Saiyan and sends him back into a finale of intense violence.
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> I just think 343 was taking it all too fast with throwing the curtain off of Halo’s pre-historic era. Some things are better without explanations (at least until near the end of the new Trilogy/Saga).
I agree. I loved the mysterious feeling of the Forerunners (and Flood) in the original trilogy, and prefer if they were kept mysterious and the Forerunners still dead after their suicidal attempt to kill off the Flood (which obviously failed). That being said, I’m still going to be reading the rest of the Forerunner books, since they are interesting from purely a book-reading POV. I just hope that the Precursors don’t get over-explained either since they are relegated to the level of gods in the Halo mythos.
EDIT: Maybe one way they could have made the Librarian’s “appearance” (put in quotes since it’s not really her, she is dead) not so jarring is if they had had her voice and/or flashes of her presence as you progress through the campaign, much like Cortana’s psychic connection to MC in Halo 3. That way, you know there is someone else on Requiem pulling strings, who wants you to come to her so she can pass on her knowledge and help fight the Didact, but then not spoiling her identity until you finally reach her in “Reclaimer”.
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> > > I have also heard this many times just by being in these forums. However, my original post is about people’s thoughts about this specific aspect of the Flood’s “emergence”, so to speak (the powder being used on the Pheru and then mutating them and so on and so forth).
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> > That wouldn’t make sense because the Precursors plan on using the Flood to test humanity if they are worthy of the mantle and to bring unity to the galaxy. Either way it seems Precursors want unity and peace, and they will achieve that through the flood. If humans continue there wreckless path (especially with ONI promoting civil war to keep the Elites weak) and do not join forces with other races we stand no chance against the flood. The flood will take over and unite everyone under the gravemind (s). But if we change our ways and do unite to combat the flood and some how do defeat them we are worthy of the mantle. But why would the Precursors want unity? It sounds dangerous, and how Forerunners were able to defeat them why would they risk it again?
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> So…the Precursors are still alive as well? Just like the Forerunners? And are still actively shaping the galaxy? Because I notice you are speaking in the tense of the present, that the Precursors are doing these things, not that they did those things. I’d rather some things still remain a mystery in the Halo universe, and not over-explain the Precursors, the last remaining mystery of this franchise.
We just don’t know, we don’t know for fact how many Precursors are out there. The only way we could learn more information with out seeing one would be through the Organon (the domain). Which should be destroyed but some how in halo 5 exist my theory is its a portion of the domain that survived which is why cortana is rampent but that’s off topic. All we know is the Precursors said we will be tested by the flood when humanity is ready. But a different strain not like any we’ve seen on the Halo installations. Pure bred flood I am guessing, which should be terrifying.
love these deep lore convos!
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> the Forerunners actually have NO problems with creating life as the Librarian could farm up a fresh batch of Humans whenever she damn-well pleased.
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Where is this coming from?Halo 4 Terminals. I think she made Humans twice after the Didact destroyed them on two occasions.
There’s a 10000 year gap between batches, well, between the Didact devastating humans., as there arent actually 2 batches.
She makes the first ‘batch’ after the human-forerunner war, it prospers on earth for 10,000 years before she abducts a certain section of it preparation of the halo event. The didact then composed most of that group she abducted, but not all of it.
