The DMR is not acceptable for War Games!!

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So I would like to express my disappointment with 343i.

The DMR is an awesome weapon that looks nice and sounds incredible. But, it has come to my attention that the DMR drastically changes Halo 4 for the worst.

I’d like to start off by saying the DMR impedes map movement on every map IN THE GAME. Let that sink in for you. One primary gun in the entire Halo universe is able to disrupt map flow.

This is even more noticeable with the new Community Maps. Every map that 343i introduced can be ruined by people playing pekaboo with the DMR. This should not be happening in a Halo game where the main objective is MOVEMENT.

I assume most of you know the DMR is faulty and why it is that way. I’m hoping 343i acknowledges how detrimental the DMR is to the flow of gameplay.

Please be civilized when you post in this thread (biased Mods included).

inb4permaban
inb4fanboys
inb4modbias

P.S: If the mods do not agree with my post, please don’t act like children and ban anyone who expresses an opinion. You represent 343i and the Halo universe. So act like adults. Thank you.

i thanked you bro, but trust me, there are many threads mentioning this problem. Hopefully 343 will slow the rate of fire in a TU.

> i thanked you bro, but trust me, there are many threads mentioning this problem. Hopefully 343 will slow the rate of fire in a TU.

I’m aware of that.

Pestering 343i do to something about this is the best way to get it done. Maybe if we, as a community, badger 343i for long enough maybe they’ll add it in a the TU.

I hope I don’t get banned this time as well!

Methinks gameplay is being hampered more by the game design in rewarding button mashing style gameplay.

In real life regardless of shields and abilities one would be using cover and movement… Avoid being shot.

But the instant spawn means no pain, no caution or thinking needed, just hold down the trigger and mosh pit.

Boring.

why are you so scared of getting banned here?
the only Thread locks i’ve seen are given to threads that actually deserve it
they’re just mindless complaining/flaming of the game

you thread is just an opinionated statement. (which i 1/2 agree with)
i don’t see any reason why the mods would shut it down it

P.S, sorry to digress from the main point

P.P.S, for the record, saying “Please don’t lock this thread” will probably make the Mods take a closer look at it

OT: i feel like mostly on the large, open maps, the DMR is a problem, on smaller maps, it’s just fine

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> why are you so scared of getting banned here?
> the only Thread locks i’ve seen are given to threads that actually deserve it
> they’re just mindless complaining/flaming of the game
>
>
> you thread is just an opinionated statement. (which i 1/2 agree with)
> i don’t see any reason why the mods would shut it down it
>
> P.S, sorry to digress from the main point
>
> P.P.S, for the record, saying “Please don’t lock this thread” will probably make the Mods take a closer look at it
>
> OT: i feel like mostly on the large, open maps, the DMR is a problem, on smaller maps, it’s just fine

One mod said I got a 3 day ban for flaming and, after questioning his ban,I was given a 2 week ban. Then another mod messaged me saying “Your next ban will be a perma ban”.

Mind you, this is from an anti-dmr thread I made.

> > why are you so scared of getting banned here?
> > the only Thread locks i’ve seen are given to threads that actually deserve it
> > they’re just mindless complaining/flaming of the game
> >
> >
> > you thread is just an opinionated statement. (which i 1/2 agree with)
> > i don’t see any reason why the mods would shut it down it
> >
> > P.S, sorry to digress from the main point
> >
> > P.P.S, for the record, saying “Please don’t lock this thread” will probably make the Mods take a closer look at it
> >
> > OT: i feel like mostly on the large, open maps, the DMR is a problem, on smaller maps, it’s just fine
>
> One mod said I got a 3 day ban for flaming and, after questioning his ban,I was given a 2 week ban. Then another mod messaged me saying “Your next ban will be a perma ban”.
>
> Mind you, this is from an anti-dmr thread I made.

what did you say that the Mod accused as flaming?

and HOW did you “question” the mod’s decision? because if you just said; “I don’t understand why you banned me” he/she would have to explain
if you started bashing said mod, you kinda deserve another ban

again, i apologize for digressing from the main point of this thread

> i thanked you bro, but trust me, there are many threads mentioning this problem. Hopefully 343 will slow the rate of fire in a TU.

I’ve tested the fire rate with my friends and it works. If you decrease the ROF on the DMR it fits right in the role it’s supposed to and no other. But while they’re at it I think the DMR could use a decrease in aim-assist.

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> what did you say that the Mod accused as flaming?
>
> and HOW did you “question” the mod’s decision? because if you just said; “I don’t understand why you banned me” he/she would have to explain
> if you started bashing said mod, you kinda deserve another ban
>
> again, i apologize for digressing from the main point of this thread

I told him that Halo 4 was a PR disaster and I told him I’m only being banned because he sided with another member in that thread. Who, after looking at his post history, was not banned by the same mod even after he insulted me in my thread. Also, the whole “lol jk here’s a 2 week ban” is low.

I guess that mod in particular hates me :frowning:

But yeah. I’d rather not discuss the mods here.

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> So I would like to express my disappointment with 343i.
>
> The DMR is an awesome weapon that looks nice and sounds incredible. But, it has come to my attention that the DMR drastically changes Halo 4 for the worst.
>
> I’d like to start off by saying the DMR impedes map movement on every map IN THE GAME. Let that sink in for you. One primary gun in the entire Halo universe is able to disrupt map flow.
>
> This is even more noticeable with the new Community Maps. Every map that 343i introduced can be ruined by people playing pekaboo with the DMR. This should not be happening in a Halo game where the main objective is MOVEMENT.
>
> I assume most of you know the DMR is faulty and why it is that way. I’m hoping 343i acknowledges how detrimental the DMR is to the flow of gameplay.
>
> Please be civilized when you post in this thread (biased Mods included).
>
> inb4permaban
> inb4fanboys
> inb4modbias
>
> P.S: If the mods do not agree with my post, please don’t act like children and ban anyone who expresses an opinion. You represent 343i and the Halo universe. So act like adults. Thank you.

lol … I was suspended for the following:

a) stating that people who think this game is perfect aren’t realistic
b) once for a legitimate reason (with some flawed arguments, though)
c) for telling a moderator that he was doing a lousy job in a PM

The mods are here for comic relief as far as I’m concerned :slight_smile:

> > why are you so scared of getting banned here?
> > the only Thread locks i’ve seen are given to threads that actually deserve it
> > they’re just mindless complaining/flaming of the game
> >
> >
> > you thread is just an opinionated statement. (which i 1/2 agree with)
> > i don’t see any reason why the mods would shut it down it
> >
> > P.S, sorry to digress from the main point
> >
> > P.P.S, for the record, saying “Please don’t lock this thread” will probably make the Mods take a closer look at it
> >
> > OT: i feel like mostly on the large, open maps, the DMR is a problem, on smaller maps, it’s just fine
>
> One mod said I got a 3 day ban for flaming and, after questioning his ban,I was given a 2 week ban. Then another mod messaged me saying “Your next ban will be a perma ban”.
>
> Mind you, this is from an anti-dmr thread I made.

If I have learnt anything about mods in the past it’s better to to mention to other mods because some mods are more stricter than others, they don’t seem to understand temp/perma bans make it impossible to known why action was taken in the first place, to get an appeal.

Anyway I strongly agree that the dmr should be removed since it’s puts me off from playing online.

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> lol … I was suspended for the following:
>
> a) stating that people who think this game is perfect aren’t realistic
> b) once for a legitimate reason (with some flawed arguments, though)
> c) for telling a moderator that he was doing a lousy job in a PM
>
> The mods are here for comic relief as far as I’m concerned :slight_smile:

I did A and C.

Told someone who kept insulting me that he was being a blind fanboy and that this game needed work. I also called out the mod that banned me for his bias and I was threatened, by another mod, that I’ll get a perma ban.

The Moderation team for this site makes 343i look pretty ridiculous.

“Have criticism for our game? Get permabanned!” -343i

> Anyway I strongly agree that the dmr should be removed since it’s puts me off from playing online.

The DMR is pretty alright on a small map. But the DMR in BTB is unplayable. Valhalla turns into a camping, potshot, pekaboo, camo mess.

You realize the method for keeping guys from camping right? Grenades. They have a Grenadier mod. Use it. OR the resupply mod. (My fav) Or move in pairs and pick people off as you go. A buddy and I figured out a fun method involving the DMR and the Assault Rifle! Campers usually tend to be jumpers too and they seem to not realize that jumping does little good against a bullet hose. My buddy identifies a DMR user and shoots him once or twice (usually twice) while I charge forward with my AR. When the camper realizes I’m so close he usualy tries to jump and shoot and the end result is uaully a dead falling enemy and a +1 to my AR commendation. There are dozens of different methods for moving and keeping guys from camping. The primary problem, if there is one in the game, is the ridiculously long shield-recharge time compared to the instant respawn. I’ve picked up DOZENS of my own assists (by picking up my own assist I mean that I shoot a guy and he shoots me and he wins, but I respawn instantly sprint and get to him before his shield start recharging and finish off the kill) and especially with small maps almost makes weapon choice useless as people just shoot or nade away until they’re dead and then just rinse & repeat. There are SO many things to choose from BEFORE you get to DMR about the game being silly that I don’t even consider the DMR a weapon in need of fixing at this point in time.

P.S. It’s possible to keep a multikill going too, even after death. I’ve had four or five multikills going on SWAT when I get shot in the head. When I respawn instantly, I sprint and begin killing again before the 4 seconds is up the multikill keeps going. That’s just dumb.

> You realize the method for keeping guys from camping right? Grenades. They have a Grenadier mod. Use it. OR the resupply mod. (My fav) Or move in pairs and pick people off as you go. A buddy and I figured out a fun method involving the DMR and the Assault Rifle! Campers usually tend to be jumpers too and they seem to not realize that jumping does little good against a bullet hose. My buddy identifies a DMR user and shoots him once or twice (usually twice) while I charge forward with my AR. When the camper realizes I’m so close he usualy tries to jump and shoot and the end result is uaully a dead falling enemy and a +1 to my AR commendation. There are dozens of different methods for moving and keeping guys from camping. The primary problem, if there is one in the game, is the ridiculously long shield-recharge time compared to the instant respawn. I’ve picked up DOZENS of my own assists (by picking up my own assist I mean that I shoot a guy and he shoots me and he wins, but I respawn instantly sprint and get to him before his shield start recharging and finish off the kill) and especially with small maps almost makes weapon choice useless as people just shoot or nade away until they’re dead and then just rinse & repeat. There are SO many things to choose from BEFORE you get to DMR about the game being silly that I don’t even consider the DMR a weapon in need of fixing at this point in time.
>
> P.S. It’s possible to keep a multikill going too, even after death. I’ve had four or five multikills going on SWAT when I get shot in the head. When I respawn instantly, I sprint and begin killing again before the 4 seconds is up the multikill keeps going. That’s just dumb.

Your idea is good in theory.

But what if a full team is using DMRs? You’re screwed.

The AR is near useless against a DMR user on BTB maps.

EDIT: How do I into spelling?

The DMR is fine…as an on map pick up weapon. Kinda like a power weapon.

> The DMR is fine…as an on map pick up weapon. Kinda like a power weapon.

I like this idea. The DMR should be placed around the map.

> > The DMR is fine…as an on map pick up weapon. Kinda like a power weapon.
>
> I like this idea. The DMR should be placed around the map.

That’s exactly how MLG’s settings address the DMR problem.

I’m actually all for removing it, entirely.

I don’t think it’s getting fixed.

I’m all for the removal of the DMR, it shouldn’t be in this game canonically speaking anyway.

Also i have my own tactics against the “buddy buddy” system.

> > The DMR is fine…as an on map pick up weapon. Kinda like a power weapon.
>
> I like this idea. The DMR should be placed around the map.

On a side note, I think I was made a mod for a few minutes by accident : D