Hello,
Between the cyrptum, the Didact’s symbol,and the names of the new enemy - we pretty much know the Didact is the enemy. For those of you who’ve read Halo:Cryptum - you’ll know the Didact feels bitter remorse for devolving humanity, so it seems highly illogical for him to suddenly want to threaten our entire species. So, I’d like to discus what we think, assuming he is the enemy, his motives are. Also, we know the exsistance of the Ur-Didact, so do we think that there will be two Didacts, only one of which is the ancient evil? And there is also a level called the composer - what part do we think a machine/perso for turning sentients into monitors is doing in the game?
My personal opinion is that the Didact is the Bornstellar Didact, and that he has resolved to attack humanity based on what the Precursor told him (that Humans were to succeed the Forerunners) - out of a sort of religious jealousy and desire to return the Forerunners to the mantle. I think he will try to justify it by saying that Humans have not succeeded to uphold the mantle, and so need to be removed. Honestly though, I hope we see conflict over his motives in the character, as if the chief is to have a nemesis, let’s make it a good one. I also think the Prometheans are Forerunners converted into AIs by the Composer.
What are your thoughts?
I agree, except I think it might be the Ur-Didact instead.
Perhaps he thinks humanity becoming Reclaimers is a bad idea? I wouldn’t really blame him. Instead of advancing our knowledge, we are using their technology to advance our military might. That is a very dangerous thought.
And consider everything he has been though. The Ur-Didact fought a war that was based on ignorance, the humans were fleeing the Flood and the Forerunners cut them down, his civilization was destroyed considerably by the Flood and Halo Array and he was locked away on Requiem on purpose if Halo: Thursday War is to be considered.No doubt he was locked up for a reason, but I see him more as a tragic character. He lost EVERYTHING and now the race his wife “died” to save appears to be a threat to the galaxy.
> Hello,
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> Between the cyrptum, the Didact’s symbol,and the names of the new enemy - we pretty much know the Didact is the enemy. For those of you who’ve read Halo:Cryptum - you’ll know the Didact feels bitter remorse for devolving humanity, so it seems highly illogical for him to suddenly want to threaten our entire species. So, I’d like to discus what we think, assuming he is the enemy, his motives are. Also, we know the exsistance of the Ur-Didact, so do we think that there will be two Didacts, only one of which is the ancient evil? And there is also a level called the composer - what part do we think a machine/perso for turning sentients into monitors is doing in the game?
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> My personal opinion is that the Didact is the Bornstellar Didact, and that he has resolved to attack humanity based on what the Precursor told him (that Humans were to succeed the Forerunners) - out of a sort of religious jealousy and desire to return the Forerunners to the mantle. I think he will try to justify it by saying that Humans have not succeeded to uphold the mantle, and so need to be removed. Honestly though, I hope we see conflict over his motives in the character, as if the chief is to have a nemesis, let’s make it a good one. <mark>I also think the Prometheans are Forerunners converted into AIs by the Composer.</mark>
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> What are your thoughts?
my thoughts exactly.
I do disagree about the either of the Didacts being the ancient evil. for me, it feels to obvious.
I still have my mind open for Precursors, the Master Builder, the Composer and hell, a seriously Pissed Off Librarian would be awesome.
The problem with the Didact in Halo 4 being Bornstellar is that Born had even fewer (if any) reason to hate Humanity. In Primordium, he makes quite an effort to save Chakas and Riser.
I think we’ll have to wait for Halo 4 or Silentium to know which Didact is in Halo 4.
I have a feeling Jul 'Mdama got to the Didact before Chief did and painted a picture of humanity that the Didact didn’t exactly care for. Considering Jul knew the Didact’s location before anyone else did, and how he’s hunting down Requiem, and how the Covenant and Prometheans seem to be on the same side at some time during the game, I can only imagine he’s being influenced against the Humans for the time being.That’s just my take on it based on the information we’ve been given. I do feel that he’s going to be an enemy for sure, but it’s just a question of how long.
We certainly know the Prometheans will be the main enemy for the trilogy, but why? If the Didact is only our enemy for one game (I think), who controls the Prometheans after that?
> I have a feeling Jul 'Mdama got to the Didact before Chief did and painted a picture of humanity that the Didact didn’t exactly care for. Considering Jul knew the Didact’s location before anyone else did, and how he’s hunting down Requiem, and how the Covenant and Prometheans seem to be on the same side at some time during the game, I can only imagine he’s being influenced against the Humans for the time being.That’s just my take on it based on the information we’ve been given. I do feel that he’s going to be an enemy for sure, but it’s just a question of how long.
I doubt this. Historically, Sangheili always needed San’Shyuum help to operate Forerunner technology. In the case of Requiem, the Storm Covenant had to wait around 3 years before getting into Requiem, so I doubt they’d be able to get to the Didact and awaken him without Human help.
> We certainly know the Prometheans will be the main enemy for the trilogy, but why? If the Didact is only our enemy for one game (I think), who controls the Prometheans after that?
The Didact is the main enemy for Halo 4 only, but he may still be an secondary enemy in later games.
Thanks for the replies, but let’s discuss what the Didact’s motives could be rather than his role…
I’ve just had the thought that it could be something to do with the librarian - she gave her life to save the humans and from the Didact’s perspective they’ve done little in the way of inheriting the mantle. Years of waiting could lead him to believe that eradicating humans is the only way to save the galaxy. Also - we gather from Glasslands II that someone’s locked the Didact up - perhaps a Forerunner or an ancient Human who saw him as a danger. Maybe even the Ur-Didact imprisoned him to safeguard against his new found philosophy…
it wants to enslave everything and make us eat poo
> > I have a feeling Jul 'Mdama got to the Didact before Chief did and painted a picture of humanity that the Didact didn’t exactly care for. Considering Jul knew the Didact’s location before anyone else did, and how he’s hunting down Requiem, and how the Covenant and Prometheans seem to be on the same side at some time during the game, I can only imagine he’s being influenced against the Humans for the time being.That’s just my take on it based on the information we’ve been given. I do feel that he’s going to be an enemy for sure, but it’s just a question of how long.
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> I doubt this. Historically, Sangheili always needed San’Shyuum help to operate Forerunner technology. In the case of Requiem, the Storm Covenant had to wait around 3 years before getting into Requiem, so I doubt they’d be able to get to the Didact and awaken him without Human help.
While that’s true, I can’t help but wonder why the Prometheans seemed to suddenly stop caring about the Storm Covenant. Through the canon they’ve made a connection between
Jul and the Didact. Jul’s new purpose or even religion in a sense is to contact the Didact, and release hell on humans.I feel that they correlate in some fashion. Either way, we’ll find out soon enough I suppose. He could just be cranky from his ten-thousand-year-sleep for all we know.
I have been dwelling on this thought for quite a while. . . what role will the Didact play in Halo 4? Personally I think he is going to be an enemy at first but then whatever this ancient evil is will awaken and threaten both humanity and whatevers left of the forerunners and they will become ally’s to try and take this ancient evil down. Again no one will know anything about this until the game comes out but this is just my theory to throw in the mix.
> > We certainly know the Prometheans will be the main enemy for the trilogy, but why? If the Didact is only our enemy for one game (I think), who controls the Prometheans after that?
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> The Didact is the main enemy for Halo 4 only, but he may still be an secondary enemy in later games.
Probably just me, but i just can’t see the Didact staying as a permanent bad guy. Anyway, for his reasons to want to mush humanity into mush is probably that he just see’s this advanced race of humans, once again trying to dominate the galaxy.
> > > I have a feeling Jul 'Mdama got to the Didact before Chief did and painted a picture of humanity that the Didact didn’t exactly care for. Considering Jul knew the Didact’s location before anyone else did, and how he’s hunting down Requiem, and how the Covenant and Prometheans seem to be on the same side at some time during the game, I can only imagine he’s being influenced against the Humans for the time being.That’s just my take on it based on the information we’ve been given. I do feel that he’s going to be an enemy for sure, but it’s just a question of how long.
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> > I doubt this. Historically, Sangheili always needed San’Shyuum help to operate Forerunner technology. In the case of Requiem, the Storm Covenant had to wait around 3 years before getting into Requiem, so I doubt they’d be able to get to the Didact and awaken him without Human help.
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> While that’s true, I can’t help but wonder why the Prometheans seemed to suddenly stop caring about the Storm Covenant. Through the canon they’ve made a connection between
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> Jul and the Didact. Jul’s new purpose or even religion in a sense is to contact the Didact, and release hell on humans.I feel that they correlate in some fashion. Either way, we’ll find out soon enough I suppose. He could just be cranky from his ten-thousand-year-sleep for all we know.
One popular theory is that the orange Prometheans are under the Didact’s control, the Blue simply acting as defense AI. This would explain the “change of heart”, for lack of a better phrase.
It’s true that Jul wants to unleash the Didact, but only because he heard rumors that the Didact already had it out for Humanity. In the Thursday War, he learns that the Didact had waged a war against Humanity 110,000 years before.
> > > We certainly know the Prometheans will be the main enemy for the trilogy, but why? If the Didact is only our enemy for one game (I think), who controls the Prometheans after that?
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> > The Didact is the main enemy for Halo 4 only, but he may still be an secondary enemy in later games.
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> <mark>Probably just me, but i just can’t see the Didact staying as a permanent bad guy.</mark> Anyway, for his reasons to want to mush humanity into mush is probably that he just see’s this advanced race of humans, once again trying to dominate the galaxy.
I’m with you on that. I’m still holding out for the “corruption” theory, and that the Precursors will show up to “test” Humanity in Halos 5 and 6.
The Precursors coming to “test” is what I think and hope will happen also. The Didact conflict will probably be a whole misunderstanding on a huge scale.
The corruption theory is viable - but only if it’s the Bornstellar Didact (he’s left to ponder on his race’s replacement with humanity - and resolves to destroy them and exert the will of the Precursors as they have proved unworthy, elevating his own race to the place of the Precursors). A less credible theory is that the Didact is the Ur-Didact, who is unaware that the Precursors gave humanity the mantle, and sees them as violators of the mantle as they have taken it from the Forerunners and failed.
> The corruption theory is viable - but only if it’s the Bornstellar Didact (he’s left to ponder on his race’s replacement with humanity - and resolves to destroy them and exert the will of the Precursors as they have proved unworthy, elevating his own race to the place of the Precursors). A less credible theory is that the Didact is the Ur-Didact, who is unaware that the Precursors gave humanity the mantle, and sees them as violators of the mantle as they have taken it from the Forerunners and failed.
Yes the Ur-Didact would be unaware of the whole Humans as Reclaimers of the Mantle thing! He will probably just see them as taking the Forerunners birthright by force. The Librarian will get involved to sort it out, I’m sure.
My thoughts are all about how is portrayed in the Game I hope they do a good job with the Didact.