The Didact, Librarian and Spark in Halo 4?

Many of us have read the two installments in the Forerunner series (in my opinion, the only well written part of the extended lore, in the sense that it could stand up to the quality of books not written in contract from companies such as TOR), and have noticed the hints towards Halo 4s topics and content. One thing which intrigued me (and I haven’t quite finished the book yet) is that in Primordium, the UNSC is asking Chakas (whom I assume is some form of AI now) about the Didact, suggesting that they may have had a…run in…with him. This could suggest that the ‘rage’ mentioned in Terminal 10 from the Didact, has been unleashed on humanity. This would in turn suggest the Didact is present, perhaps even an enemy (although sustained aggression would be pointless and contradictory to Halo Lore on his part), in Halo 4. What are your thoughts? Do you agree that he could be in Halo 4? Do you think this is a good idea?

Secondly, one of the Halo Anniversary Terminals mentions that ‘a fragment of her brilliance’ has been ‘left’ to the galaxy, the her obviously referring to the Lbrarian. This would suggest that the Librarian is also still alive in some form, and that she could be present in Halo 4, perhaps wanting to nurture humanity after having seen to it that they survived.

Finally, the reconstruction of Installation 04 by the Ark could suggest that Spark could also be reconstructed in his death. This could suggest that he could also be in the Reclaimer Trilogy.

Do you agree with my suggestions? Do you want two Forerunners to be present in game?

This morning, I dreamed of having 2 Arbiters on The Storm.

I want to clone Didact. Make it happen 343!

After everything I’ve seen and read about the Didact, I can’t see him being the aggressor. It’s one thing to point to the CEA terminal with his symbol amidst some fire and say “That shows he is evil!” and then to look at all the other expanded content showign the exact opposite. So I’m sure we’ll see him, but I can’t see him as the enemy. I just can’t. The UNSC and ONI may think he could be a threat after reading about him in the Bornsteller Relation or other sources and are simply planning for the worst.

The Librarian has to have a role since Chakas states she is alive. How and why, that is to be determined.

We will not see 343 Guilty Spark though, he’s dead. It’s a big misconception that Chakas is Guilty Spark or that GS is Chakas. Plenty of reasons to explain this.

Everything but that one little quip in the last terminal suggests that didact is friendly with humanity.

Since 98% of the evidence points to him being an ally, if anything, I’m going to believe that.

Also, I have been re-reading glasslands, and I found it interesting that Halsey points out that she doesn’t really know why she knows how to activate some of the forerunner stuff, she just does. Mendez says she’s holding something back but Halsey says if she really knew why she knew what to do, she’d tell everyone. Similar to the way John magically knew various things about the halo rings/the ark.

More hints to a geas or perhaps…the librarian.

If Chakas did take over the infinity, and he apparently did give humanity a history lesson on everything forerunner, I could certainly foresee him being in the game.

343 would have a lot of explaining to do in game though, since apparently you won’t need to have read the books to know who these people are.

> Everything but that one little quip in the last terminal suggests that didact is friendly with humanity.
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> Since 98% of the evidence points to him being an ally, if anything, I’m going to believe that.

And even then, consider WHO was talking about the Didact in the terminal.

I want the ruthless Didact and the more gentle Librarian, but not Spark, since we already blew him up.

Didact, yes.

But not… I repeat… not as the Chief’s sidekick.

If Didact is in the game, then it should be shown that he is Chief’s greater. He is over 100,000 years wise, has armor 12x the strength of Master Chief’s, and could probably kill him with the snap of his fingers. This needs to be shown in some way in Halo 4, V, or the Final Chapter.

Otherwise I call money scam.

> After everything I’ve seen and read about the Didact, I can’t see him being the aggressor. It’s one thing to point to the CEA terminal with his symbol amidst some fire and say “That shows he is evil!” and then to look at all the other expanded content showign the exact opposite. So I’m sure we’ll see him, but I can’t see him as the enemy. I just can’t. The UNSC and ONI may think he could be a threat after reading about him in the Bornsteller Relation or other sources and are simply planning for the worst.
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> The Librarian has to have a role since Chakas states she is alive. How and why, that is to be determined.
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> We will not see 343 Guilty Spark though, he’s dead. It’s a big misconception that Chakas is Guilty Spark or that GS is Chakas. Plenty of reasons to explain this.

I don’t think the extended universe shows him not to be an aggressor, seeing as he hates humans, but I agree that it would be a bit stupid for him to start waging war on humans - he won’t be the main enemy. What I was thinking is that he is angry at the Chief for destroying Installation 04, and setting in motion a chain of events to releasing the flood again, and so would be aggressive for a time against him. However, I think he’ll eventually let it go to fight the main enemy - if he is indeed in the game

Also, do we know that the ‘bornstellar relation’ has actually been retrieved?

Only voted 2/3 because want 343i to keep some surprise for the last two games

343 Guilty Spark is about as dead as he can be. Then again, he IS an AI and could probably find some way of uploading himself to something. Though, that’s incredibly unlikely since an AI that sophisticated would have a hard time finding hardware that could support him, and considering that his installation and the replacement is destroyed beyond repair, along with the only place (seemingly) able to replicate another replacement.

It would be a shame if 343 Industries couldn’t use their namesake as a character, especially considering that the character is this awesome, but I just can’t see a credible way for him to return. I’d rather keep him dead than see Halo turn into Days of Our Lives.

> 343 Guilty Spark is about as dead as he can be. Then again, he IS an AI and could probably find some way of uploading himself to something. Though, that’s incredibly unlikely since an AI that sophisticated would have a hard time finding hardware that could support him, and considering that his installation and the replacement is destroyed beyond repair, along with the only place (seemingly) able to replicate another replacement.
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> It would be a shame if 343 Industries couldn’t use their namesake as a character, especially considering that the character is this awesome, but I just can’t see a credible way for him to return. I’d rather keep him dead than see Halo turn into Days of Our Lives.

the last halo book it was all based around 343 guilty spark copy or something like that so he will be back

> > After everything I’ve seen and read about the Didact, I can’t see him being the aggressor. It’s one thing to point to the CEA terminal with his symbol amidst some fire and say “That shows he is evil!” and then to look at all the other expanded content showign the exact opposite. So I’m sure we’ll see him, but I can’t see him as the enemy. I just can’t. The UNSC and ONI may think he could be a threat after reading about him in the Bornsteller Relation or other sources and are simply planning for the worst.
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> > The Librarian has to have a role since Chakas states she is alive. How and why, that is to be determined.
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> > We will not see 343 Guilty Spark though, he’s dead. It’s a big misconception that Chakas is Guilty Spark or that GS is Chakas. Plenty of reasons to explain this.
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> I don’t think the extended universe shows him not to be an aggressor, seeing as he hates humans, but I agree that it would be a bit stupid for him to start waging war on humans - he won’t be the main enemy. What I was thinking is that he is angry at the Chief for destroying Installation 04, and setting in motion a chain of events to releasing the flood again, and so would be aggressive for a time against him. However, I think he’ll eventually let it go to fight the main enemy - if he is indeed in the game
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> Also, do we know that the ‘bornstellar relation’ has actually been retrieved?

He may have “hated” humans, but the events of cryptum and his appearance in primordium hardly show him as hating humans. If anything he was ashamed at himself for once hating humans, and now he’s buddies with them.

Have you read the books? He has long since “let it go”.

> > > After everything I’ve seen and read about the Didact, I can’t see him being the aggressor. It’s one thing to point to the CEA terminal with his symbol amidst some fire and say “That shows he is evil!” and then to look at all the other expanded content showign the exact opposite. So I’m sure we’ll see him, but I can’t see him as the enemy. I just can’t. The UNSC and ONI may think he could be a threat after reading about him in the Bornsteller Relation or other sources and are simply planning for the worst.
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> > > The Librarian has to have a role since Chakas states she is alive. How and why, that is to be determined.
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> > > We will not see 343 Guilty Spark though, he’s dead. It’s a big misconception that Chakas is Guilty Spark or that GS is Chakas. Plenty of reasons to explain this.
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> > I don’t think the extended universe shows him not to be an aggressor, seeing as he hates humans, but I agree that it would be a bit stupid for him to start waging war on humans - he won’t be the main enemy. What I was thinking is that he is angry at the Chief for destroying Installation 04, and setting in motion a chain of events to releasing the flood again, and so would be aggressive for a time against him. However, I think he’ll eventually let it go to fight the main enemy - if he is indeed in the game
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> > Also, do we know that the ‘bornstellar relation’ has actually been retrieved?
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> He may have “hated” humans, but the events of cryptum and his appearance in primordium hardly show him as hating humans. If anything he was ashamed at himself for once hating humans, and now he’s buddies with them.
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> Have you read the books? He has long since “let it go”.

Yes, I have read the books, don’t be so patronising.

I would disagree, he does co-operate with Humans in Primordium, but that’s only out of necessity. He still shows sorrow that humans killed his sons, and is bitter about this, but as you say,he shows regret as he realises that Humans were also fighting the flood, and he unwittingly took advantage of that, but he’s hardly pally-pally with them. He refers to the Humans Chakas and Riser possessively, and shows fear at how warlike they are, he’s far from trusting. Besides, his hatred (or lack of) for humans is peripheral. Spark still suggests that he would be agressive towards the person who destroyed Installation 04 - The Chief, even if this is only for a short time.

Here’s my bunch of theories on the characters, and I hope some of these aren’t true, else it will make for a boring and obviously predictable plot:

Bornstellar-Didact is a character we will experience as the leader of the Forerunner armies, the characterised face of the enemy. But we will discover that he is being manipulated by Faber, the Master Builder, who is holding the Librarian hostage, all of this happening on Requiem.

Having seen concept art of UNSC forces on Requiem, we can probably assume that John will be fighting alongside the Marines and such. The motives of the Forerunners remain unclear at present: Faber harbours a dislike for humanity, and John is, in theory, trespassing. So as the UNSC forces fight for their survival, Faber recognises John as an iconic leader for them. As such, he sends Bornstellar-Didact to get rid of him. John fights through the Forerunner ship and, in whatever order, crashes the ship on one of the Halo rings and/or convinces Bornstellar-Didact that the UNSC can help him. Stranded on a ring (again), the pair fight off whatever hostile forces present themselves, perhaps rogue Covenant and/or more of Faber’s forces, and maybe BD goes looking for transport.

Escaping, the pair find the Infinity, which Chakas Spark has hijacked in his search for the Librarian, and head towards Requiem to free the Librarian. At the last moment, Faber flees, and tells them all they are doomed.

He will return in Halo 5, and he’s bringing the Precursors with him.

In theory. And, as I said, if that is the plot, snore. I mean, it’s ok from what I know of the story, but there’s bound to be so many things of which we don’t know yet.

Hell, that completely ignores Cortana’s fate, and, besides from ordering John into a deep, dark facility to be overwhelmed by enemies, and laughing (like in [the level] Cortana, not like an absurd maniac), before coming to her senses and helping him out, I don’t know what can be done. I just hope they don’t find some deus ex machina to cure all her ills. That would be cheap.

> After everything I’ve seen and read about the Didact, I can’t see him being the aggressor. It’s one thing to point to the CEA terminal with his symbol amidst some fire and say “That shows he is evil!” and then to look at all the other expanded content showign the exact opposite. So I’m sure we’ll see him, but I can’t see him as the enemy. I just can’t. The UNSC and ONI may think he could be a threat after reading about him in the Bornsteller Relation or other sources and are simply planning for the worst.
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> The Librarian has to have a role since Chakas states she is alive. How and why, that is to be determined.
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> We will not see 343 Guilty Spark though, he’s dead. It’s a big misconception that Chakas is Guilty Spark or that GS is Chakas. Plenty of reasons to explain this.

Nah. It’s the Precursors. Trust me, I’m British.

> Here’s my bunch of theories on the characters, and I hope some of these aren’t true, else it will make for a boring and obviously predictable plot:
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> Bornstellar-Didact is a character we will experience as the leader of the Forerunner armies, the characterised face of the enemy. But we will discover that he is being manipulated by Faber, the Master Builder, who is holding the Librarian hostage, all of this happening on Requiem.
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> Having seen concept art of UNSC forces on Requiem, we can probably assume that John will be fighting alongside the Marines and such. The motives of the Forerunners remain unclear at present: Faber harbours a dislike for humanity, and John is, in theory, trespassing. So as the UNSC forces fight for their survival, Faber recognises John as an iconic leader for them. As such, he sends Bornstellar-Didact to get rid of him. John fights through the Forerunner ship and, in whatever order, crashes the ship on one of the Halo rings and/or convinces Bornstellar-Didact that the UNSC can help him. Stranded on a ring (again), the pair fight off whatever hostile forces present themselves, perhaps rogue Covenant and/or more of Faber’s forces, and maybe BD goes looking for transport.
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> Escaping, the pair find the Infinity, which Chakas Spark has hijacked in his search for the Librarian, and head towards Requiem to free the Librarian. At the last moment, Faber flees, and tells them all they are doomed.
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> He will return in Halo 5, and he’s bringing the Precursors with him.
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> In theory. And, as I said, if that is the plot, snore. I mean, it’s ok from what I know of the story, but there’s bound to be so many things of which we don’t know yet.
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> Hell, that completely ignores Cortana’s fate, and, besides from ordering John into a deep, dark facility to be overwhelmed by enemies, and laughing (like in [the level] Cortana, not like an absurd maniac), before coming to her senses and helping him out, I don’t know what can be done. I just hope they don’t find some deus ex machina to cure all her ills. That would be cheap.

Yes, that is a possibility although I doubt the Didact would willingly let Faber direct him, seeing as the Didact let himself be killed in order to avoid giving Faber any information on control codes or the shield worlds.

I also think it’s unlikely Faber will survive. The cliffhanger nature of his trial, being interrupted by Mendicant Bias,and his killing of the Didact’s original body, suggests that he will return as an enemy in the final Foreunner Saga book, which will likely involve his death at the hands of the Didact.

Just my thoughts

> Here’s my bunch of theories on the characters, and I hope some of these aren’t true, else it will make for a boring and obviously predictable plot:
>
> Bornstellar-Didact is a character we will experience as the leader of the Forerunner armies, the characterised face of the enemy. But we will discover that he is being manipulated by Faber, the Master Builder, who is holding the Librarian hostage, all of this happening on Requiem.
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> Having seen concept art of UNSC forces on Requiem, we can probably assume that John will be fighting alongside the Marines and such. The motives of the Forerunners remain unclear at present: Faber harbours a dislike for humanity, and John is, in theory, trespassing. So as the UNSC forces fight for their survival, Faber recognises John as an iconic leader for them. As such, he sends Bornstellar-Didact to get rid of him. John fights through the Forerunner ship and, in whatever order, crashes the ship on one of the Halo rings and/or convinces Bornstellar-Didact that the UNSC can help him. Stranded on a ring (again), the pair fight off whatever hostile forces present themselves, perhaps rogue Covenant and/or more of Faber’s forces, and maybe BD goes looking for transport.
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> Escaping, the pair find the Infinity, which Chakas Spark has hijacked in his search for the Librarian, and head towards Requiem to free the Librarian. At the last moment, Faber flees, and tells them all they are doomed.
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> He will return in Halo 5, and he’s bringing the Precursors with him.
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> In theory. And, as I said, if that is the plot, snore. I mean, it’s ok from what I know of the story, but there’s bound to be so many things of which we don’t know yet.
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> Hell, that completely ignores Cortana’s fate, and, besides from ordering John into a deep, dark facility to be overwhelmed by enemies, and laughing (like in [the level] Cortana, not like an absurd maniac), before coming to her senses and helping him out, I don’t know what can be done. I just hope they don’t find some deus ex machina to cure all her ills. That would be cheap.

Yeah that would suck incredibly bad…but unfortunately I have a feeling this is what is going to happen, or something similar to it anyway. I just don;'t think 343 can match the creative potential that Bungie had, they were master storytellers of Halo and it was because Halo was their game, which then stolen by Microsoft and given to amateurs. I’m sorry, Halo fans, but it seems like this is the end.

Unless they are really and truly serious about developing the Master Chief character, then there may actually be hope. If they choose not to show his humanity and continue on with the immortal superhero stereotrope then the Halo series is really and truly doomed.

> > Here’s my bunch of theories on the characters, and I hope some of these aren’t true, else it will make for a boring and obviously predictable plot:
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> > Bornstellar-Didact is a character we will experience as the leader of the Forerunner armies, the characterised face of the enemy. But we will discover that he is being manipulated by Faber, the Master Builder, who is holding the Librarian hostage, all of this happening on Requiem.
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> > Having seen concept art of UNSC forces on Requiem, we can probably assume that John will be fighting alongside the Marines and such. The motives of the Forerunners remain unclear at present: Faber harbours a dislike for humanity, and John is, in theory, trespassing. So as the UNSC forces fight for their survival, Faber recognises John as an iconic leader for them. As such, he sends Bornstellar-Didact to get rid of him. John fights through the Forerunner ship and, in whatever order, crashes the ship on one of the Halo rings and/or convinces Bornstellar-Didact that the UNSC can help him. Stranded on a ring (again), the pair fight off whatever hostile forces present themselves, perhaps rogue Covenant and/or more of Faber’s forces, and maybe BD goes looking for transport.
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> > Escaping, the pair find the Infinity, which Chakas Spark has hijacked in his search for the Librarian, and head towards Requiem to free the Librarian. At the last moment, Faber flees, and tells them all they are doomed.
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> > He will return in Halo 5, and he’s bringing the Precursors with him.
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> > In theory. And, as I said, if that is the plot, snore. I mean, it’s ok from what I know of the story, but there’s bound to be so many things of which we don’t know yet.
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> > Hell, that completely ignores Cortana’s fate, and, besides from ordering John into a deep, dark facility to be overwhelmed by enemies, and laughing (like in [the level] Cortana, not like an absurd maniac), before coming to her senses and helping him out, I don’t know what can be done. I just hope they don’t find some deus ex machina to cure all her ills. That would be cheap.
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> Yeah that would suck incredibly bad…but unfortunately I have a feeling this is what is going to happen, or something similar to it anyway. I just don;'t think 343 can match the creative potential that Bungie had, they were master storytellers of Halo and it was because Halo was their game, which then stolen by Microsoft and given to amateurs. I’m sorry, Halo fans, but it seems like this is the end.
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> Unless they are really and truly serious about developing the Master Chief character, then there may actually be hope. If they choose not to show his humanity and continue on with the immortal superhero stereotrope then the Halo series is really and truly doomed.

You do realise that a lot of 343 emploees are ex-Bungie? The Halo series hasn’t been handed to ameteurs, in fact, from what I’m hearing, and from what I’ve read and seen in 343’s extended universe (Legends, Cryptum, Primordium, Glasslands) they’re actually SUPERIOR to Bungie when it comes to story telling, and the small amounts of gameplay that I’ve seen indicate they’ve retained the true Halo experience that was absent in Bungie’s last, woeful game, Halo Reach, and hence match them in the gameplay department.

You can hardly call Bungie “master storytellers”, the extended universe was, under Bungie’s direction, poorly written and rushed, and felt like it had been written half–Yoinked!-. Under 343, two quality writers, writers who have actually won awards for their writing outside of the Halo universe, have delivered three excellent books which could be used to even get non-Gamers into the Halo series. Greg Bear is really good at description, and his characters are interesting and they feel real, unlike stereotypical military figure #134246 present in Bungie’s stewardship of Halo, and Glassland’s writer is nearly as good.

I know these are not Bungie or 343 employees, but as Frankie is the overarching Franhise director, it suggest that 343 know what they’re doing. When relating to 343 themselves, the terminals suggest they’re actually quite good writers - I felt really sorry for Captain Keyes in Terminal #9, much more so that when Bungie wrote for him, which made him just another cardboard cutout. Bungie are very good at creating universes, after all, Halo is iconic and interesting, but when it comes to characters, and storytelling, they’re poor. The only game they’ve made character I cared about was ODST - let’s be fair, Reach, albeit being similar, was terrible, no character was fleshed out. What 343 has presented, in my opinion, is saving the Halo franchise, they’re introducing a story-quality that, if in keeping with their limited media they’ve given us recently, will revive that Halo series after the failure that was Reach.

And for your information, 343 have specifically said that they will flesh out the Chief.

> the last halo book it was all based around 343 guilty spark copy or something like that so he will be back

Yeah that’s just wrong. Chakas is called 343 Guilty Spark by an ONI science team as a temporary designator.

“The Lord of Admirals is not testifying before the true Reclaimer. I am Chakas. I am all the remains of Chakas, and still I am haunted! I give up being Chakas. I withdraw! Please stop your recording, Reclaimer.”

Chakas’ own words.

343 Guilty Spark, Oh he dead. No chance of him returning.

Didact, :), I would like to see him

Librarian, I don’t know