You guys are geting mad over 5 bucks? seriously 5$. we got one mp for free not all 3 so its 5$ go get a job
There was nothing saying not to download unless I own map pass or anything of that nature, so I downloaded it. If I get banned I’m done with Xbox period. I’ll sell everything and never again purchase Microsoft products for the rest of my life.
Somebody needs to and better compensate those of us who PAID for those maps. Those of you saying were acting entitled need to shut your mouths because we PAID for those maps when they were given away for free. I and many other paid for the season pass which included all the map packs.
If i knew that the first map pack was free i wouldnt have wasted my 25 dollars and bought the map packs seperately for CHEAPER/LESS. The crimson map pack was part of a 25 dollar deal so when are you going to compensate us who paid that money for those maps?
Those of you who blinded sheep that are fine with this need to mind your own business because obviously you arent concerned about being taken advantage of. I smell a lawsuit if we arent compensated because what was and is sold to us in the form of a season pass is FALSE ADVERTISING.
I’m mad at the poor business ethics. Sorry but I paid for my stuff why let other people get it for free. Mistake or not. It’s bad business.
I personally think the map packs should be free at a certain point, just not the day they come out… If the maps never become free then you hardly ever get them on MM. Look at Reach as an example, I think I got an anniversary map once outside the Anniversary playlist.
The people who will flame those of us complaining either:
A) Received the maps for free, and thus do not care or;
B) Don’t mind having a major corporation screw them and then proceed lie to them.
So I wouldn’t pay attention to those who flame us for being “entitled brats”, because they just don’t get it anyway.
> The people who will flame those of us complaining either:
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> A) Received the maps for free, and thus do not care or;
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> B) Don’t mind having a major corporation screw them and then proceed lie to them.
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> So I wouldn’t pay attention to those who flame us for being “entitled brats”, because they just don’t get it anyway.
its 5$ bro. i will mail you $5
> > The people who will flame those of us complaining either:
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> > A) Received the maps for free, and thus do not care or;
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> > B) Don’t mind having a major corporation screw them and then proceed lie to them.
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> > So I wouldn’t pay attention to those who flame us for being “entitled brats”, because they just don’t get it anyway.
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> its 5$ bro. i will mail you $5
It’s not even about the money. It’s the principle. If -Yoink!- came out and officially apologized for the mistake to its paying customers, I wouldn’t make a big deal out of it. Mistakes happen, hell even big ones like this. But the fact that they lied about it upsets me a lot.
They convinced me to pay 25 dollars for a season pass that wouldve been cheaper if i would have payed for them seperately. In other words they conned me out of 25 dollars by making it seem like i was getting a good deal when in reality i payed more than what i wouldve if i payed for the map packs seperately.
You people defending this by saying we feel entitled forget why season passes are sold in the first place. Its to make sure they make an automatic profit instead of people maybe just being interested long enough just to buy one map pack. This is like the whole STREET FIGHTER X TEKKEN debacle all over again where we had to pay to unlock 12 characters that were locked on disc.
We payed 25 dollars UP FRONT before the map packs were released just to get them at a discounted price which we in the end had to pay MORE FOR if we purchased the season pass because the first map pass was released FREE OF CHARGE. If i wouldve known this and been given an advanced notice i simply wouldve payed for the map packs seperately.
I love this game as much as the next person and all you have to do is see the amount of time ive spent with the game to know that. Thats doesnt mean im going to be some blinded MORON whos fine with anything a developer/publisher decides to do especially when they offer on item at a certain price point and then sell it cheaper the day that product is released (crimson map pack).
The right thing to do is five us those point back in full since this was a case of FALSE ADVERTISING which is against the law. If i choose ill buy the map pack seperately and if not at least i know what ill be paying for including how much ill be paying for it.
It was already stated by microsoft that it was a mistake this is an official twitter post from them. So I don’t know what the hell that other statement was that someone posted from the xbox forum. I think it is just a cover up so people can stop whining. But as I said in the link below this is what they said.
The principle lol…
Dice it up however you want, youre still whining about 5 bucks. Im sure youve gotten more than 5 bucks worth of MS swag over the years too, the scales are even trust me. If people were getting screwed over and over and over and over, BADLY… I would be nerd raging myself. As it stands, you MAYBE lost 5 bucks… Boo hoo.
People with the LE and pass have the right to be mad. They got screwed and lied to by 343i and MS because they paid more to what have been promised to them. You dont see a store charging one costumer and than the same cashay broke and the store says to the next costumer “ohh you dont have to pay because our cashay is broken”.
> People with the LE and pass have the right to be mad. They got screwed and lied to by 343i and MS because they paid more to what have been promised to them. You dont see a store charging one costumer and than the same cashay broke and the store says to the next costumer “ohh you dont have to pay because our cashay is broken”.
Not anymore since they will make the people pay on the 18th to continue playing those maps through Live.
> > People with the LE and pass have the right to be mad. They got screwed and lied to by 343i and MS because they paid more to what have been promised to them. You dont see a store charging one costumer and than the same cashay broke and the store says to the next costumer “ohh you dont have to pay because our cashay is broken”.
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> Not anymore since they will make the people pay on the 18th to continue playing those maps through Live.
I didn’t read this anywhere, I DID read…
> As an additional reward to those customers that participated in our “14 Day, Buy and Play” program (which ran from Nov. 6 – Nov. 20), we are providing complimentary access to the Crimson Map Pack for a limited time, through Tuesday, December 18 at 9am UTC/GMT.
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> There were some initial complications with the distribution of the “14 day, Buy and Play” reward tokens, and so we decided to provide the additional reward of complimentary access to the Crimson Map Pack, for a limited time, as a “thank you” to our customers that contributed to the success of the “Halo 4” launch.
No where in there does it say that the maps will be revoked and that I will have to pay for them if I want to play them. I think what is really going to happen is that everyone who got the map pack for free up until the 18th will have the map pack permanently.
> > > People with the LE and pass have the right to be mad. They got screwed and lied to by 343i and MS because they paid more to what have been promised to them. You dont see a store charging one costumer and than the same cashay broke and the store says to the next costumer “ohh you dont have to pay because our cashay is broken”.
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> > Not anymore since they will make the people pay on the 18th to continue playing those maps through Live.
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> I didn’t read this anywhere, I DID read…
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> > As an additional reward to those customers that participated in our “14 Day, Buy and Play” program (which ran from Nov. 6 – Nov. 20), we are providing complimentary access to the Crimson Map Pack for a limited time, through Tuesday, December 18 at 9am UTC/GMT.
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> > There were some initial complications with the distribution of the “14 day, Buy and Play” reward tokens, and so we decided to provide the additional reward of complimentary access to the Crimson Map Pack, for a limited time, as a “thank you” to our customers that contributed to the success of the “Halo 4” launch.
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> No where in there does it say that the maps will be revoked and that I will have to pay for them if I want to play them. I think what is really going to happen is that everyone who got the map pack for free up until the 18th will have the map pack permanently.
XBL Twitter Support has started to answer questions about this, and they did say that after the 18th, they will have to pay for them. Its only a trial, not a limited time offer giveaway.
> > > > People with the LE and pass have the right to be mad. They got screwed and lied to by 343i and MS because they paid more to what have been promised to them. You dont see a store charging one costumer and than the same cashay broke and the store says to the next costumer “ohh you dont have to pay because our cashay is broken”.
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> > > Not anymore since they will make the people pay on the 18th to continue playing those maps through Live.
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> > I didn’t read this anywhere, I DID read…
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> > > As an additional reward to those customers that participated in our “14 Day, Buy and Play” program (which ran from Nov. 6 – Nov. 20), we are providing complimentary access to the Crimson Map Pack for a limited time, through Tuesday, December 18 at 9am UTC/GMT.
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> > > There were some initial complications with the distribution of the “14 day, Buy and Play” reward tokens, and so we decided to provide the additional reward of complimentary access to the Crimson Map Pack, for a limited time, as a “thank you” to our customers that contributed to the success of the “Halo 4” launch.
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> > No where in there does it say that the maps will be revoked and that I will have to pay for them if I want to play them. I think what is really going to happen is that everyone who got the map pack for free up until the 18th will have the map pack permanently.
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> XBL Twitter Support has started to answer questions about this, and they did say that after the 18th, they will have to pay for them. Its only a trial, not a limited time offer giveaway.
Except you, and whoever told you that, are wrong. Making the official Crimson Map Pack a “time trial” is physically impossible. Once people download the file that contains the maps, 343 or Microsoft can’t magically revoke our access to them in-game or on our console.
Only case a time trial could occur is if the file has parameters inside that allow for that, similar to how timed multiplayer demos work, and Crimson does not contain these whatsoever. The Crimson Map Pack was never changed in any way since release, it’s the full map pack, files and all. There is no possible way for anybody to “time trial” the maps for those who got the pack free.
The promotion, thus, is allowing for anyone to download the map pack until 12/18.
Dude. MS can just revoke your licence to the product. Simple as that. Next time you log in to live it updates your profile and revokes the licence. No more map pack.
> Dude. MS can just revoke your licence to the product. Simple as that. Next time you log in to live it updates your profile and revokes the licence. No more map pack.
Except I do not believe they can. They would first have to differentiate between people who bought it, got it for free, and got it for free via the season pass, which would take forever.
Second, legally, they can’t revoke the license. MS is making the DLC free for anyone who chooses to download it by the 18th, and once we legally download it, we have a right to the license. Unless there’s some really nice fine print in their agreements or something, revoking everyone’s licenses to the map pack would cause a greater sh*tstorm than what they already have with the LE purchasers complaining about this.
I understand the frustration by the people who bought the LE. Or the season pass. I get that. I did download the maps for free, i clicked the little star, and it said crimson map pack, 0 ms points. Now, if microsoft decides they want them back, as they are horrid at best, then by all means.
I learned my lesson. On gears of war 3, i bought the season pass. New maps sucked, and the upgrades for the 50 extra bucks was beyond putrid. Bought elite for MW3, and to say that the new maps with the exception of 1 were absolute garbage would be putting it kindly. So i figured i would wait, and surprise surprise, these maps are terrible. How about this 343.
Reinvent Guardian, reinvent construct, the pit. get rid of abandon because that map is beyond stupid. make some maps more like haven that actually play to the game style of haven. because what is happening, the majority of people are playing BTB, just so they can get VALHALLA. The only map on the game that is truly worth anything. Then, i will pay for your map packs. Give us a reason. oh, adrift is okay. very similar to the reach map though.
thats just my opinion. OH, and bring back fire fight. some of us like that a lot too.