Since every remixed map in the game is the same location at a different time frame, such as Eden being Empire at night or Regret being Truth crashed and broken, then that must mean that Riptide is definitely still Fathom. This is interesting because Fathom takes place on Beta Gabriel in the Epsilon Eridani system. I just wonder that if The Created are terraforming this world in the Epsilon Eridani system, then does this mean they are also responsible for Reach’s terraforming seen at the end of Halo Reach as well? I mean of all the planets in the Epsilon Eridani system, I don’t see why they wouldn’t choose Reach for terraforming.
Description for Riptide: “The Created have wasted no time in extending their influence across inhabited worlds, burrowing into Forerunner machinery and UNSC information systems to turn terraforming equipment and world engines to their own grand designs. Unbound by the limited foresight of mortals, the agents of Cortana can reshape worlds into verdant gardens teeming with life after only a few decades of manipulation, but at much short-term cost. Scarred by wars both ancient and new, the Created have judged this planet to be in need to significant remediation and remodeling; shifting continents and oceans after the AI constructs carefully balanced the drawbacks and benefits of both limited extinction events and damage to the existing colonial infrastructure.”
Interesting.
At least we’re getting lore on the Created before Halo 6.
I think Reach wasn’t chosen as there’s currently no one living on there. Where-as it sounds like people are still living on Beta Gabriel based on the description.
Cortana really sounds like the Gravemind now.
Guardians Cortana says people will never now poverty disease nor hunger.
Lets go to halo 3 then “There will be no more sadness, no more anger, no more envy!”
“I’m giving people a chance to be more than what they are naturally.”
“Do i take life or give it? Who is victim and who is foe?”
Lets go to Human weakness now
What crushed her right then wasn’t failure, but guilt, shame, and a terrible aching sorrow. She’d never be able to erase [what she did to Ackerson]. …
“I can’t change the past,” she said. “But at least I don’t destroy entire worlds.”
“You are a weapon, and only your limitations have kept you from emulating me - a matter of scale, not intent, not motive.”
But there was another way out of this pain, a better one. She could stay with John forever when he came for her. Couldn’t she? The Gravemind would unite all those parted, all those who’d be gone -
“No!” she screamed. She began struggling, fighting to break free of the Gravemind’s influence. “That’s you! That’s you, isn’t it! Tempting me again! Poisoning me with filthy ideas! I won’t do it, I won’t trap John for you. Watch me - you said I was a weapon - you bet I’m a weapon!”
I can’t imagine a lot of people are living on Beta Gabriel though. There were only a few hundred people there even before the Covenant arrived.
Curious. Why would they terriform planets if their just AI?
Because they’re not killing off all life. They’re forcing peace on the galaxy, which means they would be nice to those who surrender to them and only murder those whose resist. Terraforming planets so people can return to them would be a good way of convincing them they only want to help.
But didn’t it say it took decades to do that? If that’s the case does that mean that the original fathom is 30 years old or something?
There has to be an alterior motive behind this.
Cortana playing landscape gardener on Beta Gabriel seems like an awfull waste of her time and resources compared getting glassed worlds like Reach and Harvest back on their feet.
"I sense a plot to destroy the jedi"
Dude, that is pretty awesome. But would they terraform a world?
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People who survived reach are probably already leading productive lives on other worlds by now. It`s not like most UNSC worlds are overcrowded or something.
Itd be easier to bring a surviving colony up to Reachs level than to start from scratch rebuilding it.
Noooooo! Not all the poor space fish and space whales… 
(And the few 500+ humans living there too…)
But when they released the description for the map, it made me happy to at least get a hint of what the created are doing… And it’s terrifying and gots me a bit more interested in the Rise of the Machines plot. But like as some speculated, this may not be that but more of a Gravemind/ Precursor plot twist which gets me excited.
Also, why would she want to terraform a water planet anyways? Seems like a waste to me, unless it has something to do with flood still… Who knows.
I’d assume she’s still get some populations out. Limited exctinction events seem to be wildlife and plant life and so on.
It’s interesting, I remember thinking about how they should show the created helping Aleria, so they can probably terraform Aleria an reach and all the other glassed planets. Maybe they will have better records then.
I wonder if she’d leave that spot blue team marked though untouched.
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Considering that by 2589, Reach was seemingly recolonized, I would reckon that the Created had begun large-terraforming operations on any planets that they felt were necessary to rehabilitate. That being said, I am curious to the direction 343 will be taking in response to the Created having taken control of most of colonized space and what the state of universe will be from there on out.
I think this can do some good, but I don’t see her doing this just for the inhabitant’s benefits. Not only that, but the methods they use appear to cause limited extinction-level events and damage pre-existing infrastructure. I think Cortana’s efforts would be better spent terraforming lifeless worlds and moons and, perhaps, asteroids as the Kig-Yar did. I’m also a bit concerned that it does not seem as though she has a Conservation Measure in place to keep species that would potentially go extinct from doing so. Surely her access to Forerunner technology includes some of those barges we saw on the Mantle’s Approach? There is just something needlessly destructive about the Created’s plans which doesn’t surprise me since Cortana showed no concern with the people her Guardians killed.
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As far as we know, she’s only active in known space. I’d like to know what happens when she crosses the line into unexplored territory and tries to force her will on newly discovered alien species.
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Acceptable losses for “the greater good”.
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That’s a mystery to be solved later in history I suppose. Of course though, her actions aren’t justified really, and those losses aren’t acceptable and they don’t contribute to galactic peace. Unless she knows something everyone else in the story and we as the audience don’t, her actions aren’t justified. She thinks they are however, so she has her reasons, whether she, everyone else in the story, or us as the audience understand them fully or not. Your questions are justified, but the answers may never come, and if they do, well patience is the key here again. Now of course we could assume all day long, but putting words and thoughts into Cortana’s mouth and head isn’t going to get us anywhere haha. I love how she says she is cured from rampancy, when clearly she isn’t. At least in the terms of her degrading logic, emotions, and personality. Her life span might now be “eternal,” or at least extended, but she isn’t sane anymore that’s for sure. I really wonder what will become of her later in history, and I hope she comes to terms with her new self. And OP, I like the theory, and I really wonder if this is the case. We will see soon enough if you’re right or not.
By history I mean the future of the Halo universe.
Sincerely,
p1ay4OURFUN
Well, if folks like Frankie and Reed want to insist she isn’t evil, I’m going to need a little convincing on that given, as you say, the deaths don’t actually contribute to any good. If the assumption at 343 that killing millions of people is an a-OK activity, that worries me. I probably also wouldn’t care too much about the extinction events Cortana’s peeps will inevitably cause if there didn’t exist alternatives to changing a planet and preserving the species. It just seems like Cortana isn’t trying too hard and flies in the face of her and the Created not having “the limited foresight of mortals”. No offense, but what you said sounded to wishy-washy and non-committal to me.
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Think from their perspective. They don’t especially care or have the same morals as us. What’s good for them may be bad for us. Its a point of view thing.
